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Originally posted by DerekJR321
The Patriot Act expanded the definition of "terrorism" so now pretty much anyone who engages in civil disobedience can be labeled a terrorist.
Originally posted by DerekJR321
The government can now arrest and prosecute people who keep information on you, if they reveal that the government requested this information. IE: Let's say the FBI wants to investigate you, and asks your ISP for records. If your ISP then goes and tells you this, they are now breaking the law. Why? They are just trying to protect your right to privacy.
Originally posted by DerekJR321
Government agents may now monitor the First Amendment protected activities of religious and political institutions, and then infiltrate those organizations at will. Meaning they need no suspicion of criminal activity or wrong doing.
Originally posted by DerekJR321
You may now be subject to a government investigation simply because of your political or religious views.
Originally posted by DerekJR321
Law Enforcement agencies may now conduct searches and wiretaps of your home or office without showing probable cause.
Originally posted by DerekJR321
Law Enforcement may now demand personal records held by any source, including your doctor, employer, accountant or library.
Originally posted by DerekJR321
The Patriot Act directs judges to consent to secret searches based only on Government assertion that a "significant need" is given, related to terrorism.
again not even close to being accurate. Source
Originally posted by DerekJR321
Americans can now be jailed without a formal charge and without the right to confront a witness or view evidence against them.
Originally posted by DerekJR321
American citizens are now held in military jails without charge and without a clear path of appeal for their indefinite incarceration.
Originally posted by DerekJR321
I could continue to go on, but I will provide you with a link to a PDF which has many more. Most of the above I paraphrased from the linked PDF.
Originally posted by DerekJR321
NY Civil Liberties Union
Originally posted by DerekJR321
PS- Here is an off the top example. How about your right to protest? Why are people in NY being pepper sprayed in the face because they are off the side walk? And I know someone will chime in and say "well they were blocking the way for others". I've been there. No... they are not. Everyone has been peaceful. Anytime someone was coming through, EVERYONE moved aside. So that is nonsense. The police, or should I say, the white shirts are just flexing their muscles. Cursing at everyone, pushing, shoving. Basically showing that they are "tough guys". Which infringes on my right to protest. So yeah...
Originally posted by ParkerCramer
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
You arent understanding the topic at all.
People bitch that they have had rights taken away from them. My question is what rights have been taken from you?
well hello Xcathdra...............up to your old tricks again??
Let me see if I can make this easy.................WHY DON'T YOU LIST THE RIGHTS YOU SAY WE ARE ENTITLED TOO............................this should make it simpler for all.
Now, no deflection..............just simply list our rights, then maybe we can have something to talk about.
Parker
MTUBY
Originally posted by Autodidactic
There's like 20 threads on this already, if the OP didn't want to start a fight why didn't he just go read or post on one of those?
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
You arent understanding the topic at all.
People bitch that they have had rights taken away from them. My question is what rights have been taken from you?
Originally posted by xaphoo1971
I don't know about loss of rights but they sure are making a lot of restrictions and it's getting damed hard to enjoy these rights if you ask me...
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Its an easy question - people in these forums constantly state the government is taking rights away.
My question is what rights are being taken away.
Originally posted by ParkerCramer
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
You arent understanding the topic at all.
People bitch that they have had rights taken away from them. My question is what rights have been taken from you?
well hello Xcathdra...............up to your old tricks again??
Let me see if I can make this easy.................WHY DON'T YOU LIST THE RIGHTS YOU SAY WE ARE ENTITLED TOO............................this should make it simpler for all.
Now, no deflection..............just simply list our rights, then maybe we can have something to talk about.
Parker
MTUBY
Originally posted by RSF77
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Its an easy question - people in these forums constantly state the government is taking rights away.
My question is what rights are being taken away.
Well you #ing question is being answered, pay attention.
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by Xcathdra
So you believe being able to grow organic food isn't a right, being able to repair ones home isn't a right, and being able to trade freely shouldn't be individual rights?
And here's another one for you. It's illegal in many places to feed homeless people. It's literally illegal to share food with people who need it the most. They must depend on Government sanctioned food houses which aren't open very often and are typically in a bad part of the neighborhood. I will give my food to any damn Human on the Earth and I don't need the big brothers approval.edit on 15-10-2011 by ChaoticOrder because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by popsmayhem
Obviously you have NOT stated any rights lost.
Just a bunch of whining babies
whining because someone is better off then them is easy
Getting out and making something of yourself is hard..
Anyone can hold a sign and scream RIGHTS VIOLATION
Originally posted by Xcathdra
My question to the people who continually state we are losing our rights is what individual rights have you lost.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Originally posted by morder1
I used to like playing poker online for a few bucks(5-10 at a time)
But now I cant... FBI shut down all the poker sites 5-6 months back...
I lost the money I did have invested, well I didnt lose it, it was stolen from me and never given back... nor was my player points that I earned
Again, what right have you lost?
Originally posted by Swills
Patriot Act comes to mind. That bill is definitely not in favor of American rights.
Originally posted by CherubBaby
reply to post by Xcathdra
You have to be kidding me. Your an American and your having to ask what rights we have and are loosing? Cmon.. You mean to tell me you don't think the patriot act is a violation of a persons right to privacey i.e. illegal search and seizure? I could and would go on but I won't dignify the question with more examples if your an American and need someone to explain it to you.