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Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
my original point:
Comparing WWII skies with today's skies just goes to show how awful it all really is. That's what they look like and what does that tell us? Time for change.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
Here's my namecalling tit for tat: you all are circular. Get off the wheel.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by ProudBird
Your statement on the types of planes being used needing to be considered is irrelevant - that's in the statistical mix.
Your namecalling i.e. "charlatans keen on promoting the myth, in order to profit from it."
Myth- People are waking up to the obvious chemtrail spraying operations
Fact- Art Bell originally started the chemtrail idea back in 1999, when promoting a miracle cartilage/ joint cure for sufferers of joint aches from alleged chemtrail victims. Anyone else find this suspicious
Myth- But Art Bell always tells the truth
Fact- Ummm....no he doesnt
"late summer chemtrails will be disclosed and common knowledge"
William Thomas (2/28/02) the Art Bell Show
William Thomas Investigative Journalist, Author, Videographer has been the main catalyst behind "chemtrails" for three years now...His many appearances on Art bell have garnered him status among chemtrail activists as a "guru" all around the net...For some reference on his many allegations of what chemtrails are, here are some quotes from over the years...
Thomas has claimed the chemtrails cause sickness, rashes, abnormal weather, are a aluminum/barium sunscreen, and cause drought, but has put forth as of this date 9/23/02 not one shred of evidence to support these accusations in any way shape or form...
For the very few who actually believe that chemtrails exist, having a spokesman who has lied time and time again about the existence of chemtrails can only present a hindrance in the plausibility of the existence of chemtrails and for the more studied individual, it shows dramatic evidence of a man promoting a scam...for profit...and not a concerned individual interested in the welfare of the average citizen.
* Thomas was quoted in the Santa Fe New Mexican, a newspaper in Santa Fe, NM, on 6/20/99 as saying, "My colleague and I will release the name of our lab and detailed lab results as soon as we find a publisher willing to pay us for many months of research - and reimburse those lab tests."
* "700 tankers 'kc-135s' doing the spraying, md-80 involved, "it" is in commercial airplane fuel" 3/14/01
* Thomas admits "no insitu samples have ever been taken"...2/28/02
* "Asks for $20,000 to do the sampling"...on 2/28/02
* "the impending ATC crossover in wanting to know why they are not told about chemtrails" ...2/28/02
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
Many of the opinions by the contrail cult members, which they always like to claim as facts, have been debunked many times yet they still repeat the same mantra over and over.
...(what that means in case you didn't know is that there are only 1/2 the total movements that represent actual planes)...
Today, the global airline industry consists of over 2000 airlines operating more than 23,000 aircraft, providing service to over 3700 airports. In 2006, the world’s airlines flew almost 28 million scheduled flight departures and carried over 2 billion passengers. The growth of world air travel has averaged approximately 5% per year over the past 30 years, with substantial yearly variations due both to changing economic conditions and differences in economic growth in different regions of the world. Historically, the annual growth in air travel has been about twice the annual growth in GDP. Even with relatively conservative expectations of economic growth over the next 10-15 years, a continued 4-5% annual growth in global air travel will lead to a doubling of total air travel during this period.
Now yes, you could be complaining about there being too many persistent contrails. Or you could complain that the air force uses too much chaff in training, or that local water authorities do too much cloud seeding. Or that there's a lot of pollution.
Turbo-props rarely leave contrails because they usually fly too low.