What the @# are these people thinking?

Sorry, if I posted this in the wrong forum. Please move it to the appropriate section if necessary.
I just wanted to share a few videos that have disturbed me.

What the @# are these people thinking...... Jelly beans made from human DNA?

www.telegraph.co.uk...
Reports last week that researchers could be just six months away from producing the world's first artificial meat, using thousands of stem cells bred in a laboratory, sent a wave of fascination around the world. Yet there is an even more ghoulish prospect ahead: the idea of eating artificial food made from humans.

This may sound like science fiction, yet a new technique for making gelatin from human DNA is attracting "increasing interest from research and industrial circles", according to a new study by scientists from the Beijing University of Chemical Technology. The paper, published recently in the Journal of Agriculture and Food Chemistry, revealed that successful experiments had been carried out in which human genes were inserted into a strain of yeast to "grow" large amounts of recombinant (genetically engineered) human gelatin.

Gelatin has a long history of use as a gelling agent by the food industry -- and, according to the journal's publisher, the American Chemical Society, human-derived gelatin "could become a substitute for some of the 300,000 tons of animal-based gelatin produced annually for desserts, marshmallows, candy and innumerable other products".

There would be safety issues to consider. When an ice-cream parlour in London began selling flavours derived from human breast milk earlier this year, it was soon withdrawn for hygiene reasons. The Food Standards Agency said: "There would be a restriction on the sale or import of this type of product, because it would require a pre-market safety assessment."

However, scientists do not believe that the new gelatin product would pose any risk. "There's a very high degree of similarity between gelatin that comes from a cow, a pig, and a human," explains Dr David Olsen, senior scientist at FibroGen, which specialises in recombinant gelatins. "So due to their similarities, I can't see why there would be a health risk to it. It's a very similar protein to what people have been ingesting for many years."
In fact, human-derived gelatin is already in use by the pharmaceutical industry in the manufacture of certain pills and vaccines.

The highly controlled production techniques of the laboratory offer a more consistent product than "traditional" gelatin, which is made from the bones and skin of pigs and cows. More broadly, human genes are used by pharmaceutical firms in the production of insulin for diabetics, human growth hormone, and erythropoietin, which is used to treat anaemia.

WTF ? Meat made from human feces...do you fancy a turd burger?

www.dailytech.com...
Mankind's food chain may become a loop

Mankind has come up with all sorts of ideas for new meat sources from cloned animals to chowing down on insects, but this idea may be the most outlandish yet.

The Tokyo Sewage service in Japan serves over 13 million people over approximately a 2,200 square kilometer area. It approached Mitsuyuki Ikeda, a researcher from the Okayama Laboratory, with an unusual problem -- it had too much "sewer mud" (also known as human excrement).

It turns out human excrement is a breeding ground for scores of bacteria. So Mr. Ikeda cooked up an unusual solution -- make food [video] out of the feces.

The first step is to cook the bacteria, killing them, and to extract their proteins via separation techniques according to Yahoo News. Soy protein is added to enhance the flavor. The meat mixture travels to a "reaction enhancer" (likely a chemical reactor of some sort) where it turns into a textured "meat" and is then extrude through an "exploder".

The delicious "steak" is even finished with red food color to give it a comforting hue. Mr. Ikeda claims that in initial testing people found the feces steak to taste somewhat like beef.

Mr. Ikeda is afraid the main obstacle to deploying excrement meat to the masses is the "psychological barrier." He states, "I admit that few people would be keen to eat it knowing its made of human excrement."

What the @# are these people thinking...... Urine therapy ?
Part 1 of 7


I'm starting to see a trend here and it doesn't sit well in my stomach. How about yours?

Any venture capitalists want to invest in a urine bar / turd burger joint with a little human DNA on the dessert menu?

Old news.

And I still fail to see what the issue is, when you're talking about the millions of starving people in this world - sure, you make it sound nasty.


But then what does eating semi carrion sound like, half rotting meat that is slaughtered for you, prepared from the the billions and billions of animals that suffer every day, but are slaughtered in unsanitary conditions, just so you can nom nom nom that hamburger.

What - it's ok if it's alive when you kill it? Heh, it's far removed from alive when you buy it... and in fact you buy crap meat that has likely been glued together using blood by products just to sell you a slightly fancier cut of meat.

Christ humans are hypocrites...

I'm pretty sure we eat a lot of crap as it is, this doesnt phase me... nor does recycled water, we're not living in a sustainable environment as it is.

Grow and kill your own, or deal with it, really.. Killing your own however, means getting dirty with a knife.

Where I live, most municipalities spread the treated human waste over the farmer's fields anyway. So, one way or another, you are eating the proteins/nutrients from the waste. This, in a way, just seems to be cutting out the middle man.

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Yeah, I read the book The Jungle in high school. The meat industry is not a very fun or clean business.

But come on, are you going to be lining up to be one of the first customers at a Turd burger drive-thru ?

Euwwwwwww .. puueeeyyy

reminds me of this





NYC in the year 2022.....Hmmmm looks like OWS +3650 days

gett'n CLOSER and CLOSER by the day !

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Yeah it reminded me of that too.... except this is Soylent Brown and Soylent Yellow

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Made FROM humans, BY humans, FOR humans..... What's a matter with that?

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Well it's just not my cup of tea..errr i mean pee.

Sorry but the first one about gelatin made from human DNA seems too much like cannibalism to me.

I suppose if I were starving or dying of thirst I would give them a try but I think I'll pass for now.

Since there seems to be a few people who don't mind, maybe that Turd Burger Joint isn't such a bad idea.....I think I will call it "John Burgers" or "Throne Burgers" would you like your pee drink in yellow or green flavor?

Originally posted by Ha`la`tha
Old news.

And I still fail to see what the issue is, when you're talking about the millions of starving people in this world - sure, you make it sound nasty.


But then what does eating semi carrion sound like, half rotting meat that is slaughtered for you, prepared from the the billions and billions of animals that suffer every day, but are slaughtered in unsanitary conditions, just so you can nom nom nom that hamburger.

What - it's ok if it's alive when you kill it? Heh, it's far removed from alive when you buy it... and in fact you buy crap meat that has likely been glued together using blood by products just to sell you a slightly fancier cut of meat.

Christ humans are hypocrites...

I'm pretty sure we eat a lot of crap as it is, this doesnt phase me... nor does recycled water, we're not living in a sustainable environment as it is.

Grow and kill your own, or deal with it, really.. Killing your own however, means getting dirty with a knife.

edit on 15/10/2011 by Ha`la`tha because: damn I must be iron deficient, typos..

not hypocrites, you know - well not all of us.
There is nothing wrong with anyone feeling repulsion at eating treated human feces. It is not fod dude. I would feel better if it were some sort of animal feces.
After all, there is a reason we poop, and that is to get rid of all the thingd we ate that our body can't use. So why fry it up and eat it again, lol? As for eating dna from humans, i am worried that it would have some unforeseen adverse health consequence.

and now we have human recycling...yum yum....i liken this to people who like to tell us the earth is not overpopulated...

peace

Gives a whole new meaning to brown sugar....

one lump or two?

Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by Ha`la`tha

 

Yeah, I read the book The Jungle in high school. The meat industry is not a very fun or clean business.

But come on, are you going to be lining up to be one of the first customers at a Turd burger drive-thru ?

Upton Sinclair forever ruined my enjoyment of packaged foodstuff...

There's a company called 4Life that are injecting human diseases into chickens and other animals. Supposedly they are extracting something from those animals thinking maybe those animals could be building a tolerance to the human diseases...

And they are putting whatever they extracted from the animals into pills and selling it over the counter, unregulated.

They have some interesting patents to read. Scary though...if they ended up exposing people to the very diseases they injected into the animals....or worse...created new diseases for humans from the animals.

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It kind of gives me the creeps?Would this be considered cannibalism?..no thank you.I have a big problem with scientist screwing with our food,whats wrong with fresh fruits and vegetables?...nope not in my house if I can help it.

MathiasAndrew... I'm with you!

Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by ThirdMind

 

Sorry but the first one about gelatin made from human DNA seems too much like cannibalism to me.

you do realise it's not actually people ground down into jellybeans, right?
in your own article it says the dna was cultivated in yeast in a lab
seems pretty far from cannibalism to me.

Originally posted by Drunkenparrot

Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by Ha`la`tha

 

Yeah, I read the book The Jungle in high school. The meat industry is not a very fun or clean business.

But come on, are you going to be lining up to be one of the first customers at a Turd burger drive-thru ?

Upton Sinclair forever ruined my enjoyment of packaged foodstuff...

I wonder?

How many people really know the Upton Sinclair story was actually TRUE!

My Grandfather worked in a packing house in Chicago in the "teens"....for real !

YUK....YUK....

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you do realise it's not actually people ground down into jellybeans, right? in your own article it says the dna was cultivated in yeast in a lab seems pretty far from cannibalism to me.

Yes, I know that they don't grind up people.

But you do realize that the DNA is harvested from human stem cells. Which came from a human fetus.

I don't oppose the human stem cell research. But I don't want it on my dinner plate.

This is just wrong on so many levels.... i can just imagine..... actually i won't.
Wrong wrong wrong

So many chances to use Solyent Green jokes, so over done.

I think the biggest hazard here is:

Who will be regulating it for food safety and so on? (Or if there will be any regulation what so ever....) We already see cases of food born illnesses being tracked to single farms or factory food producers. Now imagine some twit sneezing or dropping H5N1 deliberately into a 'vat' of this stuff... It's literally the perfect breeding environment for that sort of nightmare machinations.


As time goes on we are getting closer and closer to the point of not being able to know exactly what is in the food we are eating. Much less, being able to find out.

Yet another question to worry about, what if GE foods crash and burn due to some odd defect we do not know about?

Would we be forced to use some sort of Soylent Green derivative that is vat grown?

Would we be given a choice of desperation; Eg Eat it or starve?

That said, when ever there is a chance to use something for ill intentions, there are also ways to use it to save lives. It's like buying a gun, you can either use it to protect life (hunt/defense/etc) or murder.

It may be that this sort of technology will save lives.
Or may them worse.

I asked my cat about the future, but he just walked away, as mysterious as ever.

M.

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