Great News! China joins the Occupy Band Wagon

It has come to my attention through ATS chat of all places, that some folks are not aware that China has jumped on board with the "Occupy" situation.

I was personally very happy to read that they have.

A snippet:

The movement that has gripped America’s financial district, protests made to the financial establishment in the West, has also taken hold on the Chinese Internet.

Occupy Wall Street (占领华尔街) were protests that began in New York’s banking center on September 17, which then spread to other cities around the United States. .

China’s own intellectual circles began to buzz about the protests in United States and beyond in late September.

On Utopia (乌有邦), a leftist nationalist forum, an entire post appeared under the headline “In Support of the Great Wall Street Revolution.”

LINK for FULL STORY

I do believe the world is waking up and that is some very good news.

reply to post by onehuman


Excellent! Thank you for posting this, onehuman, as I am one that had not heard about this yet. In all honesty it almost means more to hear that they are out there in protest over our own citizenry here in the states. I mean lets be honest here, China has not had the best human rights record and has for a very long time had a strangle hold on their population and would have never allowed this to happen just a few years ago.

So, thank you again for pointing this out. I wonder if there will be some form of protest tomorrow the 15th, the day set for alot of OWS support events to occur.

reply to post by MyMindIsMyOwn


I suppose time will tell, and for once, we do not have long to wait at all to get this answer. In fact, shouldn't it all ready be the 15th there as we speak? Perhaps a web search may be in order to see if there is any news yet to be had.

Thanks for responding.

Thank-you from me too. It does feel like the world is waking up. It's so odd to me but beautiful that support is coming from China. So often I have heard of people in nations that we consider the people are supressed, saying why don't the american people do anything to stop all of this (insert outrage here). We have been the most free nation on earth and we have done so little with that freedom.

People in other nations in our lifetime, have died for speaking out. We have all had that right for quite some time now and it took US being on the brink of losing it all to say, "hey wait a minute this (insert outrage here) isn't right". Better late than never. Here we are, ready to stand with the whole world.

I watched a documentary on a Chinese factory making jeans. The workers were just above slave.s and their working conditions were lousy, so I'm not surprised.

I keep thinking of some old tv programme where the main character use to say "Up the revolution". I couldn't agree more with him today especially if we can do it by occupation and not bloodshed, usually caused by some moronic, uniformed jobsworth, but I suspect that is naive.

reply to post by Kali74


I know this will sound Very off the wall, but the last time I actually noticed that the world Stopped for a moment and stood together, was when Micheal Jackson died. Sooo many around the world just stopped and forgot all about any kind of differences or hatreds etc. They actually joined arms and danced and sang together.

I like you, feel we are on a threshold. Perhaps it is the tipping point. No matter how you look at it, there is a wave flowing and it is gathering speed. It is so great to read now, almost everyday, those adding their voices, be it small town or countries.

For once yes, I do have to admit, I am glad I am here to witness it

reply to post by onehuman

On Utopia (乌有邦), a leftist nationalist forum, an entire post appeared under the headline “In Support of the Great Wall Street Revolution.”

These are the people I want supporting me alright.

China, the great human rights abuser and their supporters seem to be real happy about this, and OWS supporters, like I expected, think it's good news.

reply to post by projectvxn


I guess it could all be considered something that may fall under perspective.
Im sure there may very well be some percentage of the 99% even in China, that might not be all that happy with their situation either. Matters not the country for that is only a line in the sand. Mans true personal Freedom should have no lines to what is right and wrong.

reply to post by onehuman


A leftist Chinese group protesting the Leftist Chinese government is almost as funny as Occupy Wall Street, a Leftist group, protesting during the reign of a Leftist Democratic Presidency.

I've just become interested in this whole "Occupy" movement, since I read a thread this morning that there will be an Occupy South Africa.

I'm a bit confused by this article on China.
Are they supporting the Wall Street Occupation because they see it as a part of the global "democratic (which actually means undemocratic socialism in Marxist terminology) revolution"?
Are they supporting it because it is perceived as anti-capitalist, and they see it as a spread of socialist ideals?

Or are they supporting it in the sense that they will have similar events in China that are critical of local exploitation and repression?

It sounds to me like they are supporting it as a socialist event, and not to highlight the plight of their own factory workers.

In SA I think the ANC and their revolutionary Youth League will support it as long as it only criticizes Western powers, but it will be dismissed or attacked if it becomes critical of the ANC or the non-Western dictators they support (possibly as racist or elitist, or even agents and counter-revolutionaries).

Since we already have self-styled revolutionaries in power (who love to flaunt their outrageous wealth), in our case it will be like taking coals to Newcastle.

Originally posted by projectvxn
These are the people I want supporting me alright.

I suppose you feel the Koch brothers and their colostomy-toting pack of teatards are more your style?

China, the great human rights abuser and their supporters seem to be real happy about this, and OWS supporters, like I expected, think it's good news.

You're thinking of the Chinese government, you know, the hyper-capitalist slavemasters that make it possible for you to buy trivial # at everyday low low prices at your local Wal-Mart, knowing happily that the cost is deferred to people who you consider subhuman and not worth your consideration.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by onehuman

 

A leftist Chinese group protesting the Leftist Chinese government

Except the Chinese government isn't leftist at all. I understand that Americans like you take pride in enshrining and revering your own ignorance, but let me lay it out for you; a single-party system that enriches the rich at the expense of the poor while simultaneously suppressing, even murdering movements for a more egalitarian system is not "Leftist." They can call themselves whatever they want, but the proof of their position is in the actions htye take; if you're mowing down protestors seeking social justice while your govenrment is signing exploitative "free trade" deals, (ala Tienanmen Square) then you're not leftist. Simple enough.

is almost as funny as Occupy Wall Street, a Leftist group, protesting during the reign of a Leftist Democratic Presidency.

Well, one, it's not the administration that's being protested. Two, even if it were, the current administration is only "leftist" when compared to the outright fascists that make up the other side of American politics.

Well I'm not surprised as the Chinese have a great many things to protest. But let's not lose perspective here. For one reason or another, the vast majority of Chinese are content to carry on the way things are.
To say the world is waking up is a bit premature. I would say people are clueing into the fact that things aren't the way they thought they are or were told they are, but thats a long way from actually comprehending what and where those wrong things are. Even here on the ATS forums I am amazed at how unaware people are. The truth is these demonstrations do little beyond voicing frustration, especially where Government and Finance are concerned. The Chinese of all peoples should recognize this fact just by their own history.
Never confuse peaceful demonstrations with action. Most often those in power view demonstrations of this kind as a tribute to their efforts, evidence that they have an effect. Demonstrations did not exile Napoleon to St.Helena. Demonstrations did not cost the King his head. Demonstrations did not win America it's independence. Real action did.

According to the following article the support for Occupy Wall Street in the People's Republic of China comes from a group called the New Leftists, who see it as a sign of Mao's revolution. It seems they are voicing support and basking somewhat in what they perceive as an ideological triumph, rather than joining it as such.
articles.businessinsider.com...

In China, they're calling Occupy Wall Street the "Great Wall Street Revolution," according to Asia Times Online.

And by "they" we mean China's New-leftists, a group of people who are upset with the country's capitalist reforms and wish to return to the time of Mao.

In the past few days, they've held protests in Luoyang and Zhengzhou (in Henan province) to show their support for the Americans who, they hope, will bring down capitalism once and for all.

Read more: articles.businessinsider.com...

I guess we shouldn't hold our breaths for anything against the party line, or a repeat of the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.

The article points out that some netizens have satirized the irony of some apparent mass arrests in China, while the capitalism they critique seems to have far more tolerance.

"Revolutions" in so-called revolutionary countries are bound to be an interesting paradox.
I'm sure the US protesters must be thrilled to be included in Mao's Cultural Revolution.