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KC bishop charged for not bringing porn to police

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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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KC bishop charged for not bringing porn to police


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Kansas City's Catholic bishop was charged Friday with not telling police about child pornography found on a priest's computer, making him the highest-ranking U.S. Catholic official indicted on a charge of failing to protect children.
Kansas City-St. Joseph Catholic Diocese Bishop Robert Finn, the first U.S. bishop criminally charged with sheltering an abusive clergyman, pleaded not guilty to one misdemeanor count of failing to report suspected child abuse.
Jackson County Prosecutor Jean Peters Baker said Finn and his diocese, which also was charged with one count, had "reasonable cause"
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Speechless, what in the world is wrong with this guy?

We all know about the scandals through the years in regards to the Catholic church, but this one is beyond the pale considering..


only three years ago, Bishop Finn settled lawsuits with 47 plaintiffs in sexual abuse cases for $10 million and agreed to a long list of preventive measures, among them to report anyone suspected of being a pedophile immediately to law enforcement authorities.
www.nytimes.com...


The charges? misdemeanor ... really?




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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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Catholicism should be banned. It seems that almost EVER SINGLE PRIEST lusts for children. This is getting out of control. What is it with these people?

These head honchos know about it too and let it happen.
edit on 14-10-2011 by Corruption Exposed because: (no reason given)

edit on 14-10-2011 by Corruption Exposed because: sorry had to change the wording.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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i dont know whats more shocking. the priest possession child porn, or the fact that the accomplice was only charged with a misdemeanor.


...probably the misdemeanor.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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Speechless, what in the world is wrong with this guy?


Sadly, these characters probably have better moral fibers than this guy.



Joking aside, it's no surprise, and I'm honestly glad that these perverts are finally being charged for the disgusting things they do to children.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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you gotta remember, for the "good ones" their whole lives, and part of the reason they became priests, is about forgiving people and seeing past their sins to help them find salvation.

they follow the rules of their God and their Church, not man, they are supposed to think of themselves as being above our rules.
every pedo priest they expose to the public tears them and their whole church down farther from its pedestal.


not that that excuses them, but it does help you understand them.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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It is hard for me to understand how all these priests could be so corrupted.. It doesn't make sense that most of them would have already been perverted before they joined, because there are probably better ways for a perved person to be in a position to abuse children than becoming a priest..

I believe there are legions of unseen demonic powers that are influencing the minds of these people and they are getting stronger and stronger because their time is growing short...In fact I personally know that this is happening, but of course it is not scientifically provable..

This stuff with priests is becoming so rampant and virulent to the point of utter ridiculousness...



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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I am glad he was caught and made to account. It does not seem right that he was not thrown straight into jail and left there. Sometimes I think the people who allow Child abusers to continue are worse than the offenders. If the offenders could not access any resources - they could not offend.

Why is it the Catholic Church - out of all organised religions - seems to have a proliferation of Child abuse?
Some other religions have a leader who marries many partners - still not healthy in my opinion but it appears to only be the Catholic Church who - CONSISTENTLY - have clergy being detected.

Why does Child abuse exist?
It is 2011 - we are supposedly now a better society than we have been in our past...

I believe Child abuse is a measure of how healthy a society is and until it is completely eradicated we will be afflicted with a disease.

Thanks for posting because the more of this unpleasant information we read - the more we will know we still have work to do with regard to protecting Children.

Much Peace...



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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I have a pet peeve about crimes and their punishments and this is a great example of the point I'm always trying to make. In my opinion this guy should recieve more than a misdemeanor charge. He should be charged with the same crime as the person he is protecting because in my opinion knowing about this and doing nothing is the same as commiting the crime himself. I would be willing to bet if he'd been caught posessing a controlled substance ( and in no way do I advocate drug abuse) he would of received more than a misdemeanor in most states.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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****Applause**** If protecting our children were as much of a money making business as the so called "war against drugs" we would see an absolute dramatic decrease in this occurring.. sad but true!



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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I agree that it is totally wrong what goes on in this organization. I remember reading a story after the earthquake in Haiti, there were a group of Catholic missionaries there and who had been there for quite some time to "help" the young boys and girls in that devastated region. After the earthquake and once other people arrived and some of these children were under the care of others it turns out the priests there to help had been committing horrific sexual abuse against the young boys in the group. It's so sad and so disheartening and the only thing I know that gives me any peace about the situation is that in the bible, (sorry if you are not a believer-that's my personal choice) it says "It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble." We are supposed to protect and love the children, not use and abuse them for our own selfish sick purposes.. the other scripture that gives me peace regarding situations like this is the one that says..."Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly." So if they chose to put themselves in a position to serve God and teach others, and one of authority then they should already know to be ready for more extreme judgement.. Thank God!



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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Thank you - I cannot thank you enough for bringing this item into a public arena. You have no idea how much you just helped me.

Much Peace...



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 07:55 PM
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Thank you - please know when you support me you are not just supporting me. Read between the lines - join the dots - whatever. I cannot talk until it is safe for me to do so and this forum will be just the place when I can 'spill my guts' as we say in Australia.

Much Peace...



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 08:11 PM
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You would think the bishop would have reported this immediately given all the other incidents and his agreement to report abuse.


Originally posted by Amanda5
Why is it the Catholic Church - out of all organised religions - seems to have a proliferation of Child abuse?
I don't know but I always wondered if the celibacy restrictions for priests had anything to do with it.


Why does Child abuse exist?
You probably don't really want to know. But if it's a serious question, search youtube videos for "bonobo sexual behavior". Humans and bonobos share 97% of the same DNA. Bonobos don't have any policy of "must be 18 years old" to be naked or be involved in any type of sexual relations, but humans do.

When you see what genetically closely related animals do in the absence of human societal restrictions, you will have a clue.
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 08:28 PM
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I am actually a little familiar with the Bonobo behaviours that you mention. I guess with typed opinions it is difficult to inject emotion. My intention is disdain - why does it exist - it should not exist. I understand fully your comprehension of my question and your subsequent correlation with the animals.

My personal ethos is at a moral loss as to why anyone would protect someone who is guilty of Child abuse. It is probably just a reflection of me and the type of person I am. It is repugnant and the fact that a Bishop - a supervisor and supposedly a mentor to his clergy - it just defies belief sometimes....

As for the animals - they still live in the trees and don't wear clothes etcetera - the fact that we don't still live in the trees - we do wear clothes - and you added our closeness with regard to DNA. If we are that close to the DNA of animals that abuse their young - how far has humanity come? We have not come very far and we have soooooo far to go!

Much Peace...

Much Peace...



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 08:40 PM
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Obviously the bishop was wrong and should be punished.

But putting on clothes doesn't change our genetic makeup.

In fact I'm not sure it's true that all humans wear clothes, I seem to recall National Geographic showing plenty of tribes that didn't wear clothes. We also have other downfalls probably related to our genes, like killing each other.

So I think you're right, we like to pretend we are far advanced from other animals. In rocket building technology that may be true, but in other respects, not so much.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 10:13 PM
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Get with it - Child Pornography is criminal.
Just accessing it is criminal.
You don't have to have a thoughtcrime - the REALITY is that Child pornography is a crime.

You've stormed off in one direction. Children & pornography = Crime.

It should not exist but it does and it is wrong and will never be right.
With your attitude we may never be able to protect Children and that is a world in which I do not want to live.

Much Peace...



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 10:27 PM
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 10:45 PM
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I have read 1984.
Access to Child pornography is a crime.
The only person you are focussing on in your opinion is the person viewing it.
Try expanding your thinking - there is another person involved - even if you are just viewing - THE CHILD!

By viewing it you are supporting it.
Every aspect of Child pornography is evil, repugnant and mentally unhealthy.

Much Peace...



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