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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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….Ninety per cent of us will die of protracted illness, according to a recent study, and chronic diseases such as cancer and Alzheimer’s will account for about 70 per cent of all deaths.

….Planning for death is …wrongly lumped into contentious debates over euthanasia and suicide – as if… we’re… providing an excuse for caretakers to pull the plug.

.…A living will doesn’t stand in for consent, although physicians have an ethical obligation to honour patients’ wishes within legal limits.
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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Got that? ….90% of us will die slowly, if not painfully - with chronic diseases like cancer and Alzheimer’s killing about 70% of us. Living wills are recommended; be very specific.

World leaders are panicking. Chronic disease is pandemic, now a key component of the escalating financial crisis; billions are affected but patients don't die, they live for decades - exhausting and bankrupting caregivers, social welfare and health care systems, even entire nations - and threatening the global economy. Considering the pandemic in light of the so-called overpopulation crisis, real food shortages, national debt and coming natural disasters, decision-makers are looking for radical solutions. The source article offers a civilized alternative to forced euthanasia or "mercy killing," if not the Eugenics Policies popularized in the early 1900's.

Cancer and Alzheimer's are two of many diseases caused by infectious misfolded proteins. Protein-related diseases are incurable, largely untreatable and progressive - usually causing long term -and costly- disability. Five of these diseases are now pandemic - cancer, diabetes, mental illness, heart disease, and respiratory disease - and epidemiology says nothing spreads so fast and far without an infectious component. There is no doubt that disease-causing misfolded proteins are infectious inside the body (that's how they cause disease), but the big questions are controversial, subjected to a mostly manufactured debate, "Are protein-related diseases contagious in the environment? Are they communicable person-to-person? Are they transmissible in any way?"

Research shows that infectious misfolded proteins are commonly created by industry - in vaccine and drug manufacturing, food processing, nanotechnology and other industrial activities. As a result - infectious misfolded proteins contaminate many consumer products including food, medications and personal products - and are transmissible by ingestion or on direct exposure, at least. In addition, ingested or inhaled industrial contaminants can cause proteins inside the body to misfold, become infectious and cause disease.



...it has always been accepted that folded protein, not the gene, directly transmits inherited information into biological activity.

...At least the referenced article might help continue the demise of the genomics era so we can return to the study of disease, and not merely focus on the inheritance of stored information.
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A Role for Protein Misfolding in Immunogenicity of Biopharmaceuticals

…..misfolding of therapeutic proteins is an immunogenic signal and a risk factor for immunogenicity. ……Over the past decades, the use of therapeutic proteins has become common practice in medicine ……

Protein misfolding is an intrinsic and problematic property of proteins, which underlies a variety of degenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer disease.
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……experiments pointed out that biopharmaceuticals, like any other protein, are amyloidogenic and that misfolding, detected by amyloid markers, takes place in several preparations. These markers, however, are not necessarily specific for fibrillar amyloid, but also for smaller misfolded protein species.

….. Various Biopharmaceuticals Display Amyloid-like Properties upon Exposure to Conditions of Stress, Indicating Protein Misfolding — During manufacturing and storage, biopharmaceuticals may also become exposed to various conditions of stress that can potentially underlie protein misfolding and the formation of amyloid-like properties.

…….Our results point to a common mechanism by which the immune system perceives misfolded proteins. We hypothesize that this lies in the changed conformation of the protein backbone itself. This implies that the innate immune system may be activated by recognition of the amyloid-like properties of misfolded protein. …
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The controlled self-assembly of complex molecules into well defined hierarchical structures is a promising route for fabricating nanostructures. These nanoscale structures can be realized by naturally occurring proteins such as tobacco mosaic virus, capsid proteins, tubulin, actin, etc.
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.....Several cell types found on the human skin, including keratinocytes, fibroblasts and lymphocytes, are susceptible to the abnormal infective isoform of the prion protein, which transforms the skin to produce a potential target for prion infection.
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Is Biotech Creating New Incurable Diseases Accidentally?

Even when engineered mutations do not change amino acids, they cause proteins to misfold - which can change the proteins' functions in unexpected ways. Recently released research from the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda, Maryland confirms the misfolding effect, and for the first time, reports finding it in mammals. Misfolded proteins can create incurable diseases, and the phenomenon is causing renewed, but muted concern in the scientific world.
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Also see:
Did Chemical and Drug Industries Create Mad Cow?


Despite the evidence showing industry's role in creating and spreading chronic disease, the official line is that protein-related diseases are genetic, or caused by diet and lifestyle: evidence of genetic inferiority or self-imposed, nothing else. Corporate-government PR claims sick people "created their own problems" or else they're genetically inferior; if they're homeless and jobless too, that's why. The corporate-controlled mainstream media is running with the ball. Here's a particularly virtriolic bit of coverage:


What's killing us? Diseases that will kill 9 of 10 Americans

…..cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and a variety of other chronic ailments. And worse, unlike some infectious diseases, they're quite preventable.

This new, ultra-deadly pandemic threat is caused by we, ourselves. Sedentary lifestyles, poor eating habits, smoking, and other high-risk behavior causes most of these diseases. ….

More than anything, the root causes are apathy and sloth.




Talking about prion transmissibility is currently taboo, and research investigating transmissibility is not funded, presumably to protect corporate interests.



Prions are misfolded proteins that transmit diseases such as mad cow. Cashman said the current research doesn't suggest that there is a person-to-person, infectious cause behind ALS or other neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's in humans. ….

But he acknowledged the research still raises the spectre of the potential for transmission between individuals since prions are infectious agents and that issue calls for further research.


Called "non-communicable diseases" (NCD's), protein-related diseases are defined as not communicable by governments and agencies like the World Health Organization (WHO) and World Economic Forum (WEF). But whether or not these diseases are recognized as transmissible or contagious, they are out of control.

Negotiations are on in the upper echelons of world leadership, and the debate is polarized. Global corporate interests want to get rid of all the "useless eaters" - humanitarians want to protect the people. Global corporate industry wants to say protein-related diseases are contagious, and use the information to justify euthanasia, eugenics policies and quarantine - but insists on denying transmissibility via products to avoid liability and protect business. Humanitarians fear people will panic and turn on one another if these diseases are seen as contagious, causing social chaos - there are no viable medical solutions, and the numbers are far too high to deal with socially in any honorable way. Moreover, the humanitarians are with corporate industry on 'transmissibility' - if the diseases are known as transmissible via products, the fear is people will stop buying and destroy "the economy" - alternatives to the corporate economy are not recognized as feasible and again, chaos is seen as the inevitable outcome. The "non-communicable" NCD designation is just one of the compromises coming out of these backroom negotiations.

The WEF is leading the corporate charge, demanding that NCD's be addressed as an "economic crisis." The focus is on the economic cost of the Big Five: cancer, diabetes, mental illness, heart disease, and respiratory disease. Mental illness is identified as the first target, including but not restricted to Alzheimer's and other dementias.


Chronic disease to cost $47 trillion by 2030: WEF

The global economic impact of the five leading chronic diseases -- cancer, diabetes, mental illness, heart disease, and respiratory disease -- could reach $47 trillion over the next 20 years, according to a study by the World Economic Forum (WEF). ….

"This is not a health issue, this is an economic issue ….." ……

….Mental health, which is typically left off lists of leading NCDs, will account for $16 trillion -- a third of the overall $47 trillion anticipated costs.



Here's the argument we're already hearing in some form or another:

i. Given that chronic disease is
a) an economic issue, not a health issue, and
b) the highest costs are associated with mental illness,
then
c) dealing with mental illness as an economic priority is the first economic priority.

ii. Further, given that
a) chronic mental illness is incurable and largely untreatable,
b) patients with mental illnesses are unaware and/or unable to enjoy life or contribute productively,
c) the world is already overpopulated, and
d) food shortages impact otherwise healthy individuals,
then
e) the logical response is to euthanize the useless eaters.

We're being prepped for the "Silver Tsunami," and conditioned to think euthansia is the only legitimate response. Some Alzheimer's and dementia patients' caregivers are already on board, and leading the charge.

Following the World Health Organization's (WHO) September NCD Conference and the WEF bombshell report, governments have been scrambling to prove they're being responsible, and looking for cures and treatments. Press releases about "promising" research is coming out on everything from asthma to Alzheimer's, AIDS, ALS and cancer. True, much cancer is treatable. Even Alzheimer's is not a death sentence, nor does exposure and the characteristic destruction of brain cells guarantee the loss of faculties.


Alzheimer's deterioration may go unnoticed in some seniors

People can have the brain deterioration that comes with Alzheimer's disease without showing debilitating symptoms, a new study finds. ...Researchers in the U.S. studied the brains of 134 clergy who donated their bodies to science. They were in their 80s on average when they died.

None had clinical symptoms of Alzheimer's before they died, but 37 per cent showed lesions on the brain associated with the disease, a research team reported in Tuesday's issue of the journal Neurology.

"It means that a large number of people can accumulate all of this disease pathology and still be functioning very well," said study author Dr. David A. Bennett of the Rush Alzheimer's Disease Center in Chicago.

…Feldman is convinced the brain is a "use-it-or-lose-it" organ. Seniors with a higher education who stay mentally active and socially connected as they age can have the disease without knowing it, he said.


Treatments or no, the pandemic is incredibly costly and the fallout is already evident. Immediately following the WHO conference, India made cancer a "notifiable disease." The "notifiable" designation normally is reserved for "highly infectious diseases like plague, polio, H5N1 bird flu or the H1N1 swine flu." You have to wonder what kinds of policies are waiting in the wings.


Cancer to be a "Notifiable Disease" in India

Every hospital in India - private or public - may soon be bound to inform government on the number of cancer cases they treat.

The push is in the offing since the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) has recommended to the Union health ministry to make cancer a "notifiable disease".

At present, highly infectious diseases like plague, polio, H5N1 bird flu or the H1N1 swine flu figure in the list. Cancer will become the first non-communicable disease (NCD) to be bracketed under the same category.


Cancer is only the 3rd highest killer in India. By comparison, it's the leading cause of death in developed nations. In the USA in 2007, men had a 1 in 2 chance of getting cancer in their lifetime; American women had a 1 in 3 chance.



In the United States, cancer is likely to affect 1 in 2 men and 1 in 3 women at least once in their lifetime.



SUMMARY

People are suffering diseases created and spread by industrial contaminants, activities and technologies that make normal proteins misfold and become infectious. These diseases are now pandemic, bankrupting families, social and health care systems, even nations - and threatening the global corporate economy.

The preferred solution is to get rid of the sickened people, not the industries and technologies causing the diseases.





NOTE: There is a G20 summit in Cannes, France, on Nov. 3 and 4. Our nations will be forced to address NCDs and the soaring health-care costs they cause. There is not enough money to go around, and if history is any indication, global corporate interests will continue to come before people. ….If you want your country to put people first, perhaps you should tell your leader.



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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 03:47 PM
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This of course, is the very reality that we have been distracted from for many years now.

Corporate empire - Economic rulership - established by political subterfuge and increasing profit funneled to the 'stake holders' on the paradigm of cheap (read unaccountable) industry with major political efforts expended to excuse their participation, forgive the tragic disregard for health and future of our children, and marginalize any who dissent.

Because it was vital for our society to be chemically civilized, we have established not only an environment, but a food chain that is replete with toxins our scientist haven't even begun to understand.

And yet our government agencies - officially mandated and ethically obliged to stand up for us - are utterly usurped by political appointees from the industries most guilty of the worst abuses. All the while our politicians invest in them, and become more removed from the rest of the consumer class.

All this... and they want to tax us more... as blame for "our" emissions and "bad habits."

I will retire to grind my teeth for a few minutes....



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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I guess one train of thought is that the more plastic people become the less biologically induced illnesses will have it's affect upon us.

People today tend to inject inorganic compounds into themselves more and more, as the latest botox treatment or breast implant technology sweeps into society as an ever increasing norm for mankind to update themselves with.

Soon, plastic organs and inorganic body parts of all sorts will become an accepted method of continuity, as the next, best fad washes over us in the form of synthetic hair. What's next?

Induction into the mechanical realm? magnetics to influence our thoughts, our realities, our experiences?

At some point... Inevitably, mankind will become immune to organic invasions, as it will become impossible for these genetic traits to corrupt our hard coded gene pool... either that, or if indeed it still has relevance, we'll find a way to 'back up' our good gene set, and then over write the genetically corrupted malignancy with the very same back up...



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:06 PM
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People are suffering diseases created and spread by industrial contaminants, activities and technologies that make normal proteins misfold and become infectious. These diseases are now pandemic, bankrupting families, social and health care systems, even nations - and threatening the global corporate economy.


Are you saying cancer is caused by corporations?

What about this:

First Dinosaur Brain Tumor Found, Experts Suggest


The golf-ball-sized brain tumor appears as a spongy mass inside the skull cavity of a 72-million-year-old Gorgosaurus fossil, now on display at The Children's Museum of Indianapolis in Indiana. The probable tumor would have affected the animal's balance and caused other damage, explaining the many crippling wounds and fractures recorded in her skeleton.


Or how about the fact that Alzheimer’s disease is the most common cause of dementia among older people. Dementia is something humans have been living with for a very long time as well.

Now I'm not saying that industrial pollution has NO effect on human health. But to place the blame squarely on corporations isn't exactly accurate either. All I'm saying is that these things are far more complicated than we believe they are. While contaminants can and will hurt people in the long run, the ailments we face were there before and will be here after such pollution is eradicated.

So what do we do? Perhaps we should focus on how to cure these diseases. Yes, part of that is addressing root causes. But if we misidentify what the root cause is we will come up empty handed when we try to cure it.
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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Excellent Post and right to the point. This is a very touchy subject which often results in heated debate.
The moral vs. economics are one reason for that. The questions of quality of life, resources, patient rights,
etc. come into play as well. Not to mention the insurance/medicare/medicaid implications.

Remember "Dr.Death" Kevorkian?

Thanks for bringing this to light, S&F



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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I guess one train of thought is that the more plastic people become the less biologically induced illnesses will have it's affect upon us.

People today tend to inject inorganic compounds into themselves…botox treatment or breast implant

Soon, plastic organs and inorganic body parts of all sorts will become an accepted method of continuity, as the next, best fad washes over us in the form of synthetic hair. What's next?


The evidence suggests these materials actually contribute to creating or propagating underlying prion diseases. …The broad rule of thumb is that proteins respond to environmental "perturbations" by misfolding - and some of those misfolds might become infectious.

..and you're forgetting chimeras, animals engineered to grow human organs, and more



Induction into the mechanical realm? magnetics to influence our thoughts, our realities, our experiences?


As attractive as transhumanism might be, the evidence suggests it's rife with problems - most coming down to infectious misfolded proteins.



At some point... Inevitably, mankind will become immune to organic invasions, as it will become impossible for these genetic traits to corrupt our hard coded gene pool... either that, or if indeed it still has relevance, we'll find a way to 'back up' our good gene set, and then over write the genetically corrupted malignancy with the very same back up...


You're assuming the gene is king - but proteins are…



...it has always been accepted that folded protein, not the gene, directly transmits inherited information into biological activity.

...At least the referenced article might help continue the demise of the genomics era so we can return to the study of disease, and not merely focus on the inheritance of stored information.


More importantly, it really looks like prions are the primary mechanism for "evolution." …."The Prion Problem" is real - but may be ill-defined: it actually might be "The Prion Solution." Prions cause disease, yes, but they also can be good guys. One of the oldest known prion diseases is sickle-cell disease - caused by conformation problems with the hemoglobin protein. …The same protein conformational "problem" that causes sickle-cell disease also protects carriers from debilitating malarial infections.



Sickle-cell disease, usually presenting in childhood, occurs more commonly in people (or their descendants) from parts of tropical and sub-tropical regions where malaria is or was common. One-third of all indigenous inhabitants of Sub-Saharan Africa carry the gene,[2] because in areas where malaria is common, there is a fitness benefit in carrying only a single sickle-cell gene (sickle cell trait). Those with only one of the two alleles of the sickle-cell disease, while not totally resistant, are more tolerant to the infection and thus show less severe symptoms when infected.


Much evidence indicates that prions (and prion diseases) have the ability to confer benefits and positive evolutionary effects.

One of the top prion researchers is Susan Lindquist - a member of the Whitehead Institute, Professor of Biology at MIT and Investigator of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute. As her front page states, "The protein-folding problem isn’t always a problem. The very same types of misfoldings that cause dreadful diseases in some circumstances can have beneficial effects in others."

Lindquist Lab

….We investigate how protein conformational changes provide epigenetic mechanisms of inheritance, sculpt phenotypic landscapes, shape evolutionary process, and cause devastating neurodegenerative diseases. ….One implication of our work is that
the protein-folding problem isn’t always a problem. The very same types of misfoldings that cause dreadful diseases in some circumstances can have beneficial effects in others.
The protein-folding problem is as ancient as life itself; it makes sense that evolution would occasionally, perhaps even often, use it to advantage.


The main point is that prions are evolutionary mechanisms - normal proteins misfold in response to environmental change, become "infectious" - and thus, help us respond, adapt and evolve.

….Maybe they can be manipulated to support transhumanism but I doubt it.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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Yes, your right emmisions from naturally occuring Uranium Ore,Radon Gas, and Cosmic Rays,etc. have been
mutating cells here since it all began. But we have certainly increased that low level background radiation
substantially now haven't we. Add to that Chemical emmisions, and Wham-O. Bad Ju Ju.

I imagine I'll look like The Creature from the Black Lagoon if I live as long as medical science allows.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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this is just speculation:

im one of those people who constantly look at the ingrediants list on the back of food products, and i cant help but notice new additives and chemicals all the time. im eating a bag of doritos as i type this and at a glance i notice a few things that are not necessary to a "tortilla chip":

monosodium glutamate
dextrose
maltodextrin
malic acid
sodium acetate
red 40, blue1, yellow 5
sodium caseinate
disodium inosinate
disodium guanylate

2 things come to mind. 1) were all these things included in the original doritos recipe
and 2) whats known about the long-term effects of ingesting these substances. i realize that some testing is done on the immediate effects of ingesting these, but ive been looking at labels for many years and i dont recognize many of these. i also notice among my peers that many will state thing like " ive been eating/drinking these for years! nothings happened to me". but then i also notice that many of them are oblivious to new additives or changes in the recipes of many of their favorite products.

i believe this may account for some of the increase in disease.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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Funny, last night I was looking into a living will.

I have chronic pain that seems to be getting worse as the years pass. The scary thing is, I am under 30 years of age. I can only imagine what I might feel like when I hit 40, or 50.
I could blame the corporations and such, but what good would it do? One of the reasons I am in constant pain is because of environmental factors, mainly stress. It makes everything worse, and the pain becomes almost intolerable when I get very stressed out. The changes your body goes through when you are under constant stress is crazy. It becomes very physical.

I don't have this chronic illness because I am sloth or lazy. Before I got "sick" I was in tip top military shape, finished college and had a solid 5 year plan to get into a career and to buy a house. But after two severe recent (physical) traumas that happened relatively close to each other, I was not able to fully recover. For the last 3 years I have been investigating my illness. There is no cure for my non cancer chronic pain. I can only manage this for the rest of my life... I am not sure I want to do that.
But whenever I bring this up with family, especially something like a living will, they start saying I am selfish for even thinking of "suicide", which I do not consider this to be.

I wouldn't blame solely corporations, but society as a whole. We neglect our human civil rights to die. Suicide and euthanasia or "compassion killings" are so taboo and people refuse to talk about it, even though it's sorely obvious that it is something worth considering, because one day you might have to think about it yourself.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by projectvxn
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People are suffering diseases created and spread by industrial contaminants, activities and technologies that make normal proteins misfold and become infectious. These diseases are now pandemic, bankrupting families, social and health care systems, even nations - and threatening the global corporate economy.


Are you saying cancer is caused by corporations?



No - I'm saying cancer is caused by infectious misfolded proteins aka prions. Numerous things cause proteins to misfold, including: exposure to radiation, reactive chemicals, heavy metals, and more.

Fact is, global corporate industry pumps out prions AND huge amounts of the kind of stuff that makes proteins misfold.



What about this:
First Dinosaur Brain Tumor Found, Experts Suggest


I go with the idea that prions are a fundamental mechanism for adaptation and evolution. As Susan Lindquist says,



….the protein-folding problem isn’t always a problem. The very same types of misfoldings that cause dreadful diseases in some circumstances can have beneficial effects in others. The protein-folding problem is as ancient as life itself; it makes sense that evolution would occasionally, perhaps even often, use it to advantage.


So of course dinosaurs had tumors - prions are an adaptive mechanism. The real problem here is that corporate industry is assaulting us with levels and kinds of environmental change greater than even an extinction level event - and it's ongoing, doesn't quit, keeps changing - meaning new strains are being created all the time. It's too much for our poor bodies to cope with.



Or how about the fact that Alzheimer’s disease is the most common cause of dementia among older people. Dementia is something humans have been living with for a very long time as well.


Cancer has been around for a long time too - but all used to be extremely rare - now they're pandemic. That's what's unprecedented.



Now I'm not saying that industrial pollution has NO effect on human health. But to place the blame squarely on corporations isn't exactly accurate either.


Corporate interests are blaming the victims - I'm blaming corporate industry, a more scientifically defensible position by far.



While contaminants can and will hurt people in the long run, the ailments we face were there before and will be here after such pollution is eradicated.


Erm. We're talking about several industries built on the concept of creating misfolded proteins - MUCH more than "pollution"and contaminants. …And this pandemic looks more like an extinction level event than any plague ever did.



So what do we do? Perhaps we should focus on how to cure these diseases. Yes, part of that is addressing root causes. But if we misidentify what the root cause is we will come up empty handed when we try to cure it.


How 'bout we begin with the obvious? And stop manufacturing infectious misfolded proteins? Just for starters?





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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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Then perhaps the answer lies with a balanced spectrum of complex sugars (which exist in the thousands of differing type, from fruits, to nuts, to vegetables, to herbs, to nutrients, which include milks and egg types, from animals) that are incorporated into a stem cell treatment that will replace the folded, corrupted protiens with fresh, young, healthy cells that did not become corrupted by the induced industrialized toxins that destroyed the original cellular structure via corrupted protiens.

It's been discovered that these complex sugars are the key to a revitalization of our cellular anatomy's health. Of interest is how each individual cell possesses cilia attached to individualized key like structures that are the receptors waiting to 'communicate' with a specific type of complex sugar. These cilia, with their individualized 'key' awaits a specific complex sugar molecule to 'communicate', or come into contact with it, as at that point the complex sugar finds the 'cellular key' of the type it is receptive to, and thus attaches to the 'cellular key' so that in turn the cell can then recieve the nutrient that particular complex sugar will give it. These complex sugar cellular key structures exist throughout the entire cell menbrane, with each 'cellular key' looking for it's particular complex sugar type to arrive and deliver its nutrient.

Humans indeed are very complex creatures, right down to our cellular level. Of importance to note is that our cells have receptors for thousands of different types of complex sugars, from milk, to aloe vera, to honey, to avocado, to goji berry, to pomagranite, etc, etc.

This is the absolute proof providing surety that Earth is where mankind came from, and it is Earth, and all of it's complexities, that mankind finds his sustenance from. Indeed, just as Earth regenerates itself, so too can mankind, if the right spectrum of complex sugars is discovered that actually nourishes us at our cellular level, in the way mankind needs to continue to be complete and in good health.
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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I agree.

We certainly shouldn't be producing the very things that lead to such diseases.

And thanks for the clarity on what you meant.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by Wildmanimal
reply to post by projectvxn
 


Yes, your right emmisions from naturally occuring Uranium Ore,Radon Gas, and Cosmic Rays,etc. have been
mutating cells here since it all began. But we have certainly increased that low level background radiation
substantially now haven't we. Add to that Chemical emmisions, and Wham-O. Bad Ju Ju.



...I wish "Bad Ju Ju" was a respected scientific term. It should be.

Thanks for posting. S&



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Pollution is bad. It certainly and significantly increases the chance of cancer and ctr. But THE leading reason for cancer is still increased life expectancy. Damage to DNA can be caused by natural things, like sun rays or other-reaction of immune system and lots of other things. Human DNA repair mechanism is not perfect, it has a very very very very small chance of not repairing the damage, then there is very very very very small chance that the cell with the damage will continue to exist and multiply and eventually there is a very small chance that mutations will accumulate and damage the repair mechanism totally and then there is a small chance of cancer.
Do not really know about Alzheimer. But if we would live long enough ,not 90% but 100% will die of cancer.
It does not mean we should allow the pollution. Pollution is bad and we do poison our-self. But this is not a reason to panic, me thinks.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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Funny, last night I was looking into a living will.

I have chronic pain that seems to be getting worse as the years pass. The scary thing is, I am under 30 years of age. I can only imagine what I might feel like when I hit 40, or 50.

…..I don't have this chronic illness because I am sloth or lazy. Before I got "sick" I was in tip top military shape, finished college and had a solid 5 year plan to get into a career and to buy a house. But after two severe recent (physical) traumas that happened relatively close to each other, I was not able to fully recover.


Not funny - and I'm sorry to hear it.

I'm not a doctor and I am not giving medical advice, but I'd like to share my experiences and a bit of what I've learned. ….I've had excruciating episodic pain since childhood - the last bout was triggered by statins, focused on joints and muscles, went away about 3-6 months after removing the cause. The time before was never really diagnosed - might have been kidney infarction, maybe an arterial dissection - lasted 2 years, went on 24/7. That's what I've been dealing with most of my life. …I used to fantasize about getting a knife, cutting my gut open, and ripping everything out just to make it stop.

I learned about prions in researching my problem and realized I need to treat myself as having prion disease. ….The thing about prions is they use your immune and nervous systems to get around the body - any trauma or infection, it's like the Internet, they're right there, adapting and mutating to infect whatever cell called out for help. ….The best treatment is to stop them from propagating.

And the best prion therapeutics are still natural - green tea; curcumin from curry, cumin or turmeric; sage; and (unnatural) antihistamines and statins. [Note: Statins cause killer fibromyalgia in me - I won't take them. I do take benadryl and ranitidine, but they're not on the list.]


New Inhibitors of Scrapie-Associated Prion Protein Formation in a Library of 2,000 Drugs and Natural Products

Several classes of compounds were represented in the 17 most potent inhibitors, including naturally occurring polyphenols (e.g., tannic acid and tea extracts), phenothiazines, antihistamines, statins, and antimalarial compounds. ...many are either approved human drugs or edible natural products...


...I used to live in almost constant pain - now I don't.



I could blame the corporations and such, but what good would it do?


This isn't about blaming - it's about removing the things that are known to create prions and cause disease, and also, removing the things that promote prion propagation.



One of the reasons I am in constant pain is because of environmental factors, mainly stress. It makes everything worse, and the pain becomes almost intolerable when I get very stressed out. The changes your body goes through when you are under constant stress is crazy. It becomes very physical.


Yes. Stress kills. Do whatever you need to do to lose the stress.



We neglect our human civil rights to die. Suicide and euthanasia or "compassion killings" are so taboo and people refuse to talk about it, even though it's sorely obvious that it is something worth considering, because one day you might have to think about it yourself.


I don't advocate suicide - try the stuff I recommend above, meditate, eat right, exercise, and let's talk in 2 or 3 months.

…as far as our "right to die" goes, I don't see any reason to make that a political issue, except to get the "right" to euthanize other people. If I wanted to kill myself, I would just do it. I don't need anyone to give me the "right."



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
Pollution is bad. It certainly and significantly increases the chance of cancer and ctr.


Industry creates cancer-causing prions AND the stuff that makes prions propagate inside our bodies. Not sure what you mean by "ctr."



Damage to DNA can be caused by natural things, like sun rays or other-reaction of immune system and lots of other things.


Yup. And by lots and lots of unnatural things too - like concentrated heavy metals, radiation from leaking reactors, GM, GE, medications, processed food, yadayada. AND - prions infect immune calls, and hijack the immune system too.



But THE leading reason for cancer is still increased life expectancy.


That's the line - and it totally ignores the pandemic of childhood cancers, not to mention all the other ones hitting people in their prime of life, like prostate cancer.



Pollution is bad and we do poison our-self. But this is not a reason to panic, me thinks.


I'm not panicked, I'm PO'd. …It's India who made cancer a "notifiable" disease based on the very real pandemic, not me. …And it's the Big Boyz who are negotiating for euthanasia, not me - calling it the "right to die." PAH!



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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UPDATE


MsAphrodite just posted this:


U.S. Halts Long-Term Care Program

The Obama administration said Friday it is unable to implement a long-term care insurance program that was part of the 2010 health overhaul, effectively ending the program before it started.

The initiative, known as the Class Act, was included in the law to help Americans cover the cost of aid for daily-living needs such as bathing and using the toilet if they became unable to care for themselves. Mounting concerns that the program was too costly over the long run had prompted officials at the Department of Health and Human Services to re-examine the program in recent months. Last month, it fired the program's chief actuary and reassigned other staff.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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Excellent thread with a great deal of food for thought. I'm going to link it back to my thread since the two could well be related. S&F

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Looks like soficrow beat me to it.

edit on 14-10-2011 by MsAphrodite because: clarification of my post

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