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Bordergate Update: Obama talked about Fast & Furious and Holder's role on CNN Espanol in March!

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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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Now that Holder and the White House staff have tried their best to divert attention away from their roles and cover-up efforts, CNN's John King digs up an interview Barack Obama gave in March to CNN En Espanol where he discusses Fast and Furios, gun-running and Holder's investigation of the matter!

This was, of course, more than a month before Holder told Congress in May that he'd just learned about F&F "a few weeks ago."

How could he have had an on-going investigation in March, according to his boss, but just learned of the operation a few weeks before his testimony?

"John King USA"

Listen to this interview the president of the United States, not the attorney general, the president of the United States, had with CNN Espanol back in March.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There have been problems, you know. I heard on the news about this story that -- Fast and Furious, where allegedly guns were being run into Mexico, and ATF knew about it, but didn't apprehend those who had sent it.

Eric Holder has -- the attorney general has been very clear that he knew nothing about this. We had assigned an I.G., inspector general, to investigate it. (END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: It begs the question, how did the president know about this in March, and how did the president know the attorney general knew nothing about this in march, when the attorney general says in May he just learned about it a couple weeks ago?

Obama Spoke About "Fast & Furious" Before Holder Claimed He Knew

Apparently, there is much more to the story about who knew what when than we've been told thus far.


jw
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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Oh this is gonna be good.


I PERSONALLY believe that the Obama administration ok'd this program as a political operation to demonize gun owners and to begin talking about gun control.

I'm glad it's blowing up in their faces. And when all the facts finally come out I have a feeling that their anti-gun stance will be the reasoning behind this.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:14 PM
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The obvious intent of the whole thing was to have an excuse to raise the alarm about the dangers of guns and use it to attempt to further regulate Americans buying and owning firearms.

Thankfully it blew up in their face.

Obama is the new Hitler. Everything he is doing is right out of "Mein Kampf". My friend who is 79 and from Denmark and lived through the Hitler era is constantly asking me why people cannot see what is going on.

His comment" "The socialist dog has bit me in the ass twice in my life, don't you think I recognize it by now?:"

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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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If they let this dirtbag Holder, who was also responsible for executing the Marc Rich pardon, get away with repeatedly lying to congress, then we truly are f***ed. Is there nobody held accountable anymore? If, as they say he knew nothing about it, then how is it acceptable to have somebody this stupid, Attorney General? How is this guy still in office? The corruption is unbelievably bad in our public officials, and something has to be done, starting with Holder. Enough already. "We're mad as hell, and we're not gonna' take it anymore!"



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Obama has started a lose-lose game and he is not going to win this time.

Saudi Arabia is loyal to US and this whole game seemed to be a Information psycho-war against Iran.

This is Information war. Are you ready ?

A distraction from America economic issues and OWS.

Like what I said from the beginning :

Run OWS , run !



I hope American people stay aware to demand some justice from US govt.





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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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That's rich where Obama said "he heard about fast and furious,where allegedly guns were being run" that's washington double speak trying to cover his own butt and he didn't hear it from the news he knew about long before it broke.

My thoughts on fast and furious was to destabilize Mexico so that more illegals would come here and since they lean left increase his voter base and push and pass amnesty for them thus securing the largest voter block in the county and securing a second term.

Fast and Furious and gunwalker were a means to an end to get another four more years and the icing on the cake is to assualt the second ammendment finishing off gun control.

Obama is the powers that be and there's nothing that him and Holder didn't know they are both lying and they both need to see some jail time.

I want justice to be served if there is a god in heaven if there is karmic justice that will happen.
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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I want justice to be served if there is a god in heaven it their is karmic justice that will happen.


The real justice will be served in the afterlife.

In this side , people should stand for justice for their own or it will be like Jesus among his followers. I mean the followers did know the truth , but they stood back.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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This investigation needs to go beyond Obamas term in office if he himself can't be implicated. Otherwise ole Holder will get a pardon and it will have been for nothing. The events of the past week make me think that the Iranian plot was a excuse not to release documents. We got Mexican drug cartels as the approached parties. Hmm a attempt to frame it as part of on-going investigations?



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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and thus the plot thickens.... this is a completely legitimate question that deserves a serious answer.

im also wondering why it was only on cnn espanol? i guess the mexicans have just as much if not more of a right to demand answers than us.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by projectvxn
Oh this is gonna be good.


I PERSONALLY believe that the Obama administration ok'd this program as a political operation to demonize gun owners and to begin talking about gun control.

I'm glad it's blowing up in their faces. And when all the facts finally come out I have a feeling that their anti-gun stance will be the reasoning behind this.


Sorry but that theory really doesn't make any sense. How does sending guns over the border to Mexico, a place where the Drug Cartel's are massacering each other on a daily basis make for anti-gun legislation in America? How exactly would American's even notice some more guns in Mexico? Without the guns we sent....they'd still be killing each other. They had plenty of guns before this. I really fail to see your logic here.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Here's how:


As Fast And Furious was going on the Obama administration was saying that 90% of guns being trafficked into Mexico for use by the drug cartels came from US gun shops lining the border-knowing how democrats like to work gun control, this felt like another attempt at scaring people into passing gun control for the sake of Mexico.

Those US gun shops lining the border were being used by the ATF in operation Fast and Furious to run guns they KNEW would be sold to Mexican drug cartels. It's like they came up with the figure first and then tried to make it true with covert and patently illegal action.

It backfired.

Oh, and those drug cartels aren't just killing each other. 40,000 Mexican citizens have been killed in the fighting since the government declared war on the cartels. They have wantonly targeted civilians, police, members of local and state governments, as well as American citizens.

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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 11:29 PM
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We all know that the Obama administration was knee-deep in this from the start. But, why is CNN breaking away from the mainstream coverup to take the story backward into more trouble for The One?

Has CNN joined CBS in the "Bordergate" scoop?

jw



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by expat2368
The obvious intent of the whole thing was to have an excuse to raise the alarm about the dangers of guns and use it to attempt to further regulate Americans buying and owning firearms.

Thankfully it blew up in their face.

Obama is the new Hitler. Everything he is doing is right out of "Mein Kampf". My friend who is 79 and from Denmark and lived through the Hitler era is constantly asking me why people cannot see what is going on.

His comment" "The socialist dog has bit me in the ass twice in my life, don't you think I recognize it by now?:"

edit on 14-10-2011 by expat2368 because: spelling


Sadly, many of us saw this coming BEFORE the election, and even as Obama's agenda unfolded right before our very eyes! some ATS members, like "Southern Comfort" stretched as far as possible to accomomdate the lies of the administration, even in the face of outright falsehoods and contradictions that bore no justification.

Perhaps now that MSNBC is even starting to crack the facade, the MSM will start to reveal the depth of the deception.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by projectvxn
Oh this is gonna be good.


I PERSONALLY believe that the Obama administration ok'd this program as a political operation to demonize gun owners and to begin talking about gun control.

I'm glad it's blowing up in their faces. And when all the facts finally come out I have a feeling that their anti-gun stance will be the reasoning behind this.


This appears to be the case.
Perhaps Obama and Holder will have to face these unfolding revelations with the truth - for a change.
The whole story goes much farther back than the MSM would have you think.
Obama: took existing programs, TARP and "Wise Receiver" for example, and twisted thewm to fit his agenda, regardless of their original intent and purpose.

As with all the Obama failures, he can look backwards and claim, "It was George Bush!"
Hopefully, people like the CBS reporter Sharyl Atkisson will pin the tail on this donkey before they distract us with "Occupy" and "Iran" subterfuges.

jw



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by hangedman13
This investigation needs to go beyond Obamas term in office if he himself can't be implicated. Otherwise ole Holder will get a pardon and it will have been for nothing. The events of the past week make me think that the Iranian plot was a excuse not to release documents. We got Mexican drug cartels as the approached parties. Hmm a attempt to frame it as part of on-going investigations?


Clearly a tactic of "Look over there!:" I am confident that Issa and Grassley's investogators can see thru the smokescreens and zero-in their focus on Holder and Obama as docs come to light. These "leaks" have to have a purpose and a source with an agenda. Or so I hope.



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 08:53 AM
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You only have to look as far as the DOJ's own website to know that Eric Holder knew about this from the very beginning. Here is a transcript of his speech when he addressed Mexico about it back on April 2, 2009.

Attorney General Eric Holder at the Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference

www.justice.gov...



posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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If what you say is true, then how is this guy able to get away with this? How is the chief law enforcement officer in the country above the law? This double standard has to be stopped!



posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by dillweed
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If what you say is true, then how is this guy able to get away with this? How is the chief law enforcement officer in the country above the law? This double standard has to be stopped!



It's just a matter of time before he's forced to resign, but he'll probably get full immunity from any kind of punishment, as so many of them do.



posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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There's a bigger story than the "Fast and Furious" gun running to Drug Cartels.


China wanted to buy the US military LRAD weapon. But Bill Clinton put sanctions on China because they were selling arms to Iran. The US can't export military arms/weapons to China.....and China can't export anymore Norinco rifles to America for you to buy.


OBAMA got the State Department to declare the LRAD, "not a weapon"....so it could be exported to China.

Now if China wanted to do an amphibious landing on California's Coast....their military could ZAP you with the LRAD's they have....long before they get in range of your puny rifle.

Obama gave China weapons. Military Grade LRAD'S.

And Senator Webb is beating the war drum saying China "is a threat".....where was he in stopping the President from selling China LRAD weapons??????



posted on Oct, 18 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by dillweed
reply to post by Deetermined
 
If what you say is true, then how is this guy able to get away with this? How is the chief law enforcement officer in the country above the law? This double standard has to be stopped!


It is absolutely true!

Look at the earlier threads on this topic and you will find cites and links to his speech. CBS' reporter Attkisson pointed it out back in May or so, and so did I and others on here.

Holder and Obama get away with it because the MSM and their ignorant acolytes are willing to let them.

jw




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