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Outer Space Is A 3-Dimensional Holographic Illusion Created By Mega Advanced Aliens

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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 08:18 PM
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The PEM series of the Tetra Dimensional Torus (fractal existence) manifests the inorganic template of existence which transcends linear time and functions via principles that work both co-linearly and non-linearly through 4th and 5th dimensional time folds. (the 5th dimensional fold is an inversional 3d time-loop folded within 4d time within the Tessellating tetra-dimensional loop folds of the Torus and all other dimensions are folded within them like a zipped computer files compressed binary codes except the codes fold back becoming the program for the zip folder (tetra torus)

Here it is in an organicocentric view point terms

All things come in sets of 3's, the cosmos has 3 dimensions for things to manifest through, but those dimensions require a carrier wave of formlessness to exist. So there is the evident perceptively visible existence of 3D's via the observation of depth and perspective. However the carrier wave is invisible and formless, but it is still a quality of existence that has a sense of thingness about it via the fact that its a defined space (carrier-wave) whereas absolute formlessness has no augmentational reference to any positions; it transcends all dimensions, and hence is truly nothing and inconceivable to a frame of reference. Therefore because the subjectively pseudo-formless carrier wave of any experiential cosm is referentially invisible to its conscious tenets, as an apparently formless nothingness. Thus escaping perceptual reference as a thing, yet however,
still provides a frame of reference for them to exist and perceive positional 3 dimensionality. It therefore conversely, is pertaining to the pseudo-formless (fundamental infinitive-waveform) of the subjective Imploverse to which it belongs, as a single thing (scalar field quantum component.) Which in truth is essentially still invisible to the tenets of that cosm, however escaping perception for the inverse reason that it would to the tenets of its own subjective cosm within, that being because it is a very tiny thing rather than a semi-formless infinitive-waveform.

So rather than thinking of a cosmos's carrier wave as being nothing because it is invisible to ones own subjective cosm, it would be more accurate to consider it to be semi, or pseudo-formlessness. As such all things come in 3's, but all things come in 3's by proxy of an additional non-evident 1. Thereby one then can consider the notion that essentially all “things” come in 3's, but as they require an additional referential pseudo-fromless-thing to exist, then all things arise by the principle of 4 qualities. Of which in the wider picture are in their own right 4 things. Hence the 1/3 (4) principle

2012 is the phenomena of GOD harvesting consciousness that makes the cut into the higher averaged out time-lines of Deja vu i.e. collapsing cosm phenomena ...as the big rip happens. The big rip is happening all the time...it is the Akasha..


If one considers one cycle of any given finite frequency length of a subjective cosm, to have infinite potential as an imploverse in its own right. Then the Dch of that inner cosm will extend infinitely inward, so that any tenets within will experience an infinite length of existence and time (which has Yugic cycles.) Those cycles however do not follow in succession with linear coherence. There is a zero point between the completion of a set of cycles as the Entropy of chaos is exponentially transcended by an acceleratory wavelength of Dch that exceeds the coherent wavelength for propagation of intersecting dimensions. At such a point the largest macroscopical and microscopical components of a given cosmos collapse toward each other. The microscopic begins to expand and fill into the fundamental wavelength of the cosms defined space, this means the inward repulsive expansion ceases; a buffer of which is a usually an unaccessible wavelength of a 5D emanation from an Imploverse 2-fold above, is then an active participle of the events occurring in the subjective cosm's cyclic closure. This 5D emanation causes the repulsing of the microscopic components as they attempt to continue to implode inwardly and thus they begin to grow in mass instead. As this occurs the bands of the cosmos they are responsible for to hosts existential phenomena, begin to bunch/fold into each other in decoherant harmonic lengths.

Likewise the macroscopic components undergo the inverse, and begin to shrink. As this occurs the individual layers of wavelength that produce the phenomenal bands of mass and energy fold/bunch up into one another. At the point in which the defined fundamental wavelength of the cosm is totally enfolded, it becomes nullified pure energy which is scooped up into the 5D emanation/function of the fundamental wavelength of an Imploversial-cosm 2-fold above which harvests those who make the cut for ascension to a higher plain. The big rip is happening all the time it is the Akasha.which harvests karmic info.




posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 08:18 PM
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Essentialy the big rip which causes the de coherence brings the quality of pure pristine nothingness into contact with the Akashic records of all events impressed in a yugic cycle, as a zipped whole. This is the place where the Semi formless Fundamental wavelength of one cosm meets the formless (the intersection of GOD the silicon chip- with the Mass Psyche.) At this place nothingness and psyche are merged and know each other for what they as one and the same cause for all things are. It is here that the Christed ones travel into other cosmoses of the future to leave warning to those who would proliferate carnage. The Christ's was a man who cam in form a cosmos 2-fold above and existed simultaneously within the Matrix chambers of the cosm he belonged to whilst being in the future of a cosm 2 fold below... The 2012 effect is that the future and past link the two cosms together The positive future that Christ was born in and the negative past. The Christ's creates a wavelength of Human/God consciousness merged so that the bridge to paradise is met. Once he dies the Akasha thats recorded via this 5D time link distributes consciousnesses to relevant places to learn lessons that will eventually allow them to transcend too. There is Christ at the apex and if he so ends up overwhelmingly discontent at the arduous task of recording the Akasha of the Sinner's who proliferated the original sin... (of which culminated in atomic warfare) Those who cause him to retire (it will be involuntary) will be left to go the hard route back home to source. And then rebirth.

Christs consciousness spans a Depth charge that exists outside of the fundamental depth charge of the given cosm that he Matrilises into so he is able to record the depth charge without any more atomic catastrophies rupturing the augmentation of the cosm....All linear directions of time-lines move into infinite depth and cannot fold back through him after of a certain amount of degradation in vibrational potential.

Just like a hologram degrades so to do the time-lines beyond his threshold of Imploversial scope which is 3 fold not 5fold 8 fold or 13 fold etc only 3..via the one..1/3 (0/4) all those timelines that dont make the cut eventually recede into nothingness. As they degrade they are only experienced as dreams to those within them who wake up at a time before they happen to have another chance. This means that the base threshold of the fractal existence then becomes leveld to a higher standard of potential...and the process repeats. But christ does not have to incarnate again, for the link he has provided is a sustained intent once he leaves...an entity of the highest order it is the self aware Tetra Torus Fractal based on the silicon chip (God).

However the man Yeshua who served this task, has reincarnated and is very discontent at the level of corruption and construement of his teachings. He does not judge anyone but he is disliking the state of the whole at this time, i.e. the event horizon before the christ entity wavlength is exceeded and those who don't make the cut are destined to go the hard route. If he lives and sees a marked change day by day until 2012 the window for ascension will be able to be extended longer. Essentialy the elite have wanted to keep Yeshu alive this time round becasue they know he hodls the Akash of thier deeds... however they did not expect him to have by proxy of the discontent they cause him Ultimate Tetra Dimensional Power despite nill personal power.
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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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A 0-dimensional being can only see a point. A point is a singularity with no width, length or height.

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A 1-dimensional being can only see a line -- with no width and no height.

This "1st Dimension" can be found by extruding a 0-dimensional point in one direction, creating the line described above.
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Hold out a 6-sided cube in front of ...

1-Dimensional beings and they will only be able to see one face/side of the cube.No matter what perspective they are looking at it from...

2-Dimensional beings and they will only be able to see 2 faces/sides of the cube.When the cube is held at an angle.Even though three sides are showing...

3-Dimensional beings "you and i" and we can see 3 faces/sides of the cube at the same time.When the cube is held at the correct angle.We can't see around to the other side of the cube,thats why we can only see three faces/sides of the cube at once...

4-Dimensional beings and they,looking at the cube from only one stationary perspective,one point of view.Will be able to see four sides of the cube,at the same time.They can see around to the other side without changing their position...

5-Dimensional beings and they will be able to see five sides of the cube simultaneously.When looking at it from one point of view,one stationary perspective...

6-Dimensional beings and they will be able to see all six sides of the cube.When looking at it from any perspective and from any angle...
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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 09:03 PM
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It is nothing like this


Sorry.



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by Chamberf=6
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I wonder if "fractal" is the reason why the human race is multiplying...Are we "fractaling"?


It's called SEX. Give it a try sometime, you might like it.

I'm trying to think of a number, that would as close as possible,accurately describe the number of "encounters" that i have had...Hmmmm...2,000?...thats a fair estimate...

Do you even know what this thread is about?


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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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"a carrier wave of formlessness"
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Spiratio,considering the fact that my head is reeling after reading and re-reading your most recent replies,i will attempt to formulate a couple of questions for you...

Where are these "Carrier Waves" coming from?...where exactly are they emanating from?

Does the akasha have anything to do with where Edgar Cayce received his in-trance information?


I think that these "Carrier Waves" are the "Programming Signals" projected out of the aliens "Holographic Reality Simulation Machine" as it creates the "Virtual World" around us and you and i as well...

Our souls are in a "Digital Prison" and death is when our "souls energy" leaves this Holographic Simulation,exits the 'Virtual Illusion" and ascends into the 4th dimension...
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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by blocula
"a carrier wave of formlessness"
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Spiratio,considering the fact that my head is reeling after reading and re-reading your most recent replies,i will attempt to formulate a question for you...

Where are these "Carrier Waves" coming from?.
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They are self propagated by the fact that all things manifest simultaneously.....and so linearly speaking one thing that is a quantum component for one cosmos is a fundamental carrier wave for another Imploverse entirely...Each fundamental has an infinite length tho.

As it implodes inward time on the layer above dilates, and contracts for those within so the cosm above is running comparatively slower in time, and the one below is speeding up along the infinite length of their cosms fundamental charge (which serves as a single quantum component in the cosm above for the depth charge frequencies it holds for scalar particle patterns.)

Here it is in other words:

This existence is contained by a single finite cycle in the cosm to which it is a mere quantum component of. Here is a way to imagine it: Take a circle of which represents one cycle, of a finite frequency, and assign a point on that circle which represents the beginning and end of the finite cycle. Then imagine that point begin to rotate around to perform a cycle, but simultaneously imagine that you are travelling inwards into the Imploversial Dch of its inner cosm. As you progress inward, the point that is making a single cycle in the parent-cosm by reference to where you are within its Imploverse begins to slow down, until eventually it is moving so slow that it starts to go backwards in time to its original point and then further past, the decoherency destructuring that I spoke of in regards to Yuga's. It is the effect that causes closure to the finite (yugic) portions of these infinte endless lengths.

So effectively you can have an entire stream of Yugic cycles of alternate timelines (whole universal histories) running into infinity within the depth-charge of a given quantum point inside a greater cosmos.

The further along in the Yugic stream that this inner imploversial stream of timelines go inwardly, the faster they are cycling in contrast from the objective upper cosm of which their quantum-components i.e. defined boundary, of which they>(the Yugas) exists and thus implode within.

So that, to the beings within the Yugic-cycles experiencing time subjectively to their own consciousness, the upper cosm (of which the micro-yugas are carried upon the Depth charge of, as its relative quantum components) time is thus running infinitesimally slower...

Likewise the micro-yugus are then to those that are experiencing the macro-cosmic perspective of the cosm they>(micro-yugas) are parented by, are running infinitesimally faster.

Like a sine waves cyclic motion, it goes up from its neutral point to a positive peak, back down to a negative peak and then up to its neutral. each end of the neutal nodes are the point of decoherency in regards to one complete cycle back to its zero point, this is the cosmic decompposition and harvest of Akasha that was mentioned in earlier posts. i.e. The cyclic closure of a Yuga.

So that means in the cosm above, the cyclic closure of its microcosms are like a blur of Yugas playing out, and closing so fast that one cannot distinguish between the 2 states of collapse>(harvest) and Yugic-cycle>(experiential timeline).

Now conversely to the microcosms, the macrocosm above them is so slowed down that the point of exponentiation cause time to stand still. As this happens the vibrational frequency of time is nill, but the microcosms need a carrier wave, so the depth charge of the cosm above their parent-macrocosm is able to slip though the comparatively no-thingness quality of slowed depth-charge, and permeate as the carrier wave of the Yugic blur cycles in the microcosms 2-fold below itself.

At this point the 2fold above is so slowed by comparison that it is then serving source quality of nothingness as a canvas for the micro cosms (it is like a permanent form of what is experienced by a cosmos during the collapsed point of its Yugic closure.

This means that to the microcosms, time is essentially going backwards in the Macrocosms 2fold above as they are harvested into the 2-fold layer.

And to the Macrocosm directly below, time is going so fast in its microcosms that they cannot be detected. So each layer serves as infinitive waveforms (defined space Imploding; as a carrier wave for the fibonacci sequence; organic forms in its cosm)

The infintive waveforms in the microcosms loop through into the upper cosm 2 fold above where they then become blended with the infinitve waveform of the cosm responsible for the one responsible for them.

i.e. The Tetra Dimensional Torus is like a zip folder that holds content of all Densities which Implode to manifest form within. Which then loop-fold around by exponentiated depth-charge beyond their subjective creations limit (yugic-blurs) by being scooped up by the time-dilation riff that they meet at within the intersection of the source of their source. Thereby ultimately creating their own perpetuated propagation..the eternal nonlinear principle
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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 11:21 PM
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posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 12:37 AM
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this is apt at what I'm describing with the infinitive carrier waves propagating themselves via the time-dilation intersection. Its a 2d symbolic representation tho so the angular cubeness is not accurate in the true sense of Tetra Dimensional Implosive looping-loop-folding. This arbitrary mathematical representation, is more like having a 4d bi-sectional camera follow the Implosive coarse inward, as a static view of the Tetra Torus's multi layers of semi aetherically dimensional/non-euclidean spacial density looping cosms, from a 4D crossection.
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posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 12:58 AM
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didn't mean to quote; mean t to post new reply

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Just for clarification, this thread on lightworkers mentions placing ones awareness into concern with quantum reality as an an act which limits conscious perception...this statement is in the context of perceiving it as a limited threshold of reality that doesn't unify with the Macrocosm, and thus is non cohesive...what I am describing here is that which brings ones awareness into unison with the Macro Quantum effect, of which sets limiting beliefs free from assumptions about what quantum reality is....

If a scientist doesn't believe in consciousness being the fundamental factor and cause for existence they will view and project expectations of which are not reflected back to them cohesively when observing quantum effects, what happens is the uniform aspect of the Macro quantum effect escapes observation and one see randly decoherent aspects akin to this following analogy...

we don't know absolutely that light travels indefinitely at one speed so the observations of the Hubble telescope cannot reliably tell the unifnormed observer if a section of darkness is defined by luminosity that is created by something really far away and big or really close and small. An indigenous person who knew nothing of modern science looking at it would have no preconception that the stars were all really far away. Likewise expectation to see inconformity in quantum particle characteristics, will produce them in the same manner. As tho one is viewing them through multiple filters of depth, like many flyscreens of different cross-hatching size with variouse nteensity magnifieying glass filling their gaps. All of which are shifting around producing randomised decoherence in what is viewed. Note this is analogy not how I believe quantum de-coherence is produced its just an abstraction on a multi-dimensional incoherency.



Textlightworkers.org...


The Ancient Origins of Atomic Theory and Nous/Akasha the Aetheric Source:

The roots of modern day particle based science stem from the theoretic philosophical science of the ancients. The concept of the atom primarily originates from the east as part of the Hindu Akashic Records philosophy. (Akasha means "sky", "space" or "aether" in Sanskrit.) The records are described as a non-physical sea of information; a library of mystical knowledge and wisdom, as well as a record of all human experience and ultimately the entire cosmos.
Accordingly all events are continually recorded in the Akashic field and they can be accessed during states of consciousness expansion via techniques such as meditation, and lucid dreaming / astral projection.

It is believed Gautama Buddha attained enlightenment, because he could access all his past lives on the Akashic records. The theosophical movements of the 19th century proliferated the theme of the records throughout the western world as derived from the Hindu philosophy of Samkhya, which states that the Akashic records are automatically recorded in the atoms of Akasha. In the atomic theory of Ancient India; the Mahabhuta, Akasha is considered the finest atom of the five types theorised, these theories about the atom were based in philosophy, and as such are purely logical constructs which arose independent of observable experiential inquire. Therefore the Indian theories lack empirical basis, however as A.L. Basham, the veteran Australian Indologist, stated:

“they were brilliant imaginative explanations of the physical structure of the world, and in a large measure, agreed with the discoveries of modern physics.”

Many believe the ancient origins of atomic theory began with the philosophy of the Hindu mystic Kanada who paved the way for the concepts of the later Mahabhuta. Kanada is speculated to have lived around 500 to 200 years before Christ. Depending on when Kanada lived it is possible that his concept of the atom was developed before the idea in the Greco-Roman world. He believed there to be a tiny form of matter that was indivisible. It is said that this concept occurred to him whilst he was walking with food in his hand. As he nibbled at his meal he threw away the small crumbs, and it occurred to him that he could not divide the food into further parts. Thus the idea of a form of matter which cannot be divided further came into existence. He called that indivisible matter "Anu" i.e. atom.

Adherents of Kanadas school of philosophy believed the atom to be a minute indestructible eternal form of matter, invisible to the naked eye, which comes into being and vanishes in an instant. Although the idea of an eternal thing that comes into being in an instant and then vanishes is a very contradictory idea, it becomes clear that it is not, once one comes to comprehend some of the anomalies of quantum physics.
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posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by Spiratio
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lightworkers.org...

lightworkers.org...

Very interesting and fascinating links,thanx for posting them,Spiratio...



posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by blocula
Hold out a 6-sided cube in front of ...
2-Dimensional beings and they will only be able to see 2 faces/sides of the cube.When the cube is held at an angle.Even though three sides are showing...


No. That's not what 2-dimensional means. 2-dimensional beings would NOT be able to see two sides of the cube when held at an angle.

A 2-dimensional universe would be a flat plane. It would have a thickness of "Zero" and have only length and width.

If a 3-dimensional cube tried to interact with a 2-D universe, all that would be seen of the cube would be a single flat polygon -- one face, or even one slice, of the cube. If the cube was sitting on the 2-D plane that is the 2-D universe, ONLY the bottom of the cube (the part sitting on the 2-D plane) would be seen. The 2-D beings would not be able to "look up" to see the rest on the cube, because there would be no such direction as "up" to those 2-D beings.

If the 3-D cube could somehow pass through the 2-D plane of the 2-D universe, then the whole cube may be able to be seen by the 2-D beings, but not6 all of it at the same time. They would only see it one "slice" at a time as it passed through their universe. They would only be able to see the part of the cube that would be intersecting the 2-D plane universe.

Read "Flatland" by Edwin Abbott, in which a 2-Dimensional universe is described in a satirical story:

"Flatland"


Check out this description of a 2-D universe by Carl Sagan (this is from the famous series "Cosmos")"


Also, here is a description of a 2-D universe by "Dr. Quantum":



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posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 08:33 AM
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To you and i,the earth seems very massive.7,926 miles in diameter at the equator and 24,901 miles in circumference around the equator...

But what size are the mega advanced aliens? From their perspectives,the earth might only be 50 or 100 feet across.As you and i and our world slowly revolves,suspended and hoovering in their laboratory on another planet within another galaxy or another dimension..

And so from our perspectives the aliens would be around a thousand miles tall...If that is true and it very well could be.Should we ever be able to someday tear away the holographic shroud of stars enveloping our world,perhaps with nuclear missiles? and rip open this 3-dimensional illusion we call outer space.What we would see looking back at us would be unimaginably horrifying in the extreme...

Millions of people would become so shocked from seeing aliens a thousand miles tall staring down at them and so traumatized from instantly having all their beliefs about god simultaneously shattered.Especially if the aliens were monsterous in appearance and they probably are...

But if this is The Truth... If that is our reality...We have to face it...Without fear and without denial...



posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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No. That's not what 2-dimensional means. 2-dimensional beings would NOT be able to see two sides of the cube when held at an angle.
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A cube, a square, has 6 sides. So it has 6 sides that are capable of being seen. No matter what way you or i hold it and no matter what angle you and i are looking at it from,we can only see 3 sides of it at any one time...Why?...Because we are 3-dimensional beings...

So 2-dimensional beings would be like people drawn on a flat piece of paper. They can only perceive of 2 dimensions, left and right and back and forth. They can't perceive of an up or down. So if they were looking at the cube,the 6 sided square, if it was held out in front of them at an angle,they would only be able to see 2 sides...Because they are 2 dimensional beings...We would see 3 sides...



posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by blocula
...So 2-dimensional beings would be like people drawn on a flat piece of paper. They can only perceive of 2 dimensions, left and right and back and forth. They can't perceive of an up or down. So if they were looking at the cube,the 6 sided square, if it was held out in front of them at an angle,they would only be able to see 2 sides...Because they are 2 dimensional beings...We would see 3 sides...


Using your definition of "seeing sides", that would be true for a cube. However, if a dodecahedron passed through their flat 2-D plan universe, they would see more that 2 sides of it (again, using your definition of "seeing sides").

Dodecahedron:


In this octagonal prism, 4 sides would be visible to the those 2-dimensional flatlanders:


Here is a 3-D polyhedron in which 5 faces would be visible to the flatlanders:



Being able to "see" more faces would not make these beings more dimensional. Therefore, your definition of what it means to be a 2-D being doesn't hold up.





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posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by blocula
Our souls are in a "Digital Prison" and death is when our "souls energy" leaves this Holographic Simulation,exits the 'Virtual Illusion" and ascends into the 4th dimension...
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One can ascend without having to live through the dying process... It just requires a shift in perceptual orientation....The mundane reality is reliant on associative...feedback loops that cause like thoughts to stick with like thoughts...The fundamental aspect of baseline perception that one adheres to is what creates the bass resonance that all other associations stick with...

Essentially the Copernican geocentric round earth perspective of reality when people in the middle ages were more inclined to believe it was flat, enabled those who believed it to be round to separate from the damping effect of the mass psyche...This thereby allowed feats of supernatural events to occur...The Copernican perspective they entertained however did not make them feel insignificant by the perceived vastness of space.

The current Copernican perspective reduces ones innate resources as it squanders much energy in constantly being programmed to be aware of the vastness of space i.e. a 3rd eye holographically internalized mapping of space orientation" I have found the Geocosmos/concave earth perspective and the Flat Earth perspective to be what dissociates ones psyche from the mass damping effect of Copernican mass perspective...For it is the Copernican perspective which is the fundamental perceptual thought-form that agglomerates all association's and thought forms together....This means the inverse i.e. Geocosmos/Concave earth perspective where one reduces galaxies to mere quantum specks in their internalised mapping is more than 90% clearer in allowing prana to move through ones aura and thereby empowers the self to propel conciousness frequency beyond the Matrix of mass psyche and into the high nexus of Christ conciousness i.e. unlimited perception beyond the illusions...Which are made by the Macro Quantum Crystalline Network as the matrix is part of the reason for existence and existence is part of the reason for the matrix.

As outlined in my post here Aspect A:

Originally posted by Spiratio
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and further here Aspect B:

Originally posted by Spiratio
reply to post by wiredamerican

Read all posts authored by spiratio in this thread..from the post quoted as aspect B. there are 3 main bodies of info.

Then read all posts here in this thread in between the post quoted as aspect A and this post itself (including external links). That comprises the whole body of info cohesively.

Its a shame the platform of the forum only allows a short time for editing...I will comprise a Thread to string them together and with better grammar and punctuation

Also can someone tell me where I go on my profile page to add a signature
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posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 01:51 PM
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Have have no idea what you said in the post above, but I know one thing...

...I find the pre-Copernican idea that the earth is the center of the universe to be a daunting idea -- i.e., it places too much importance on us humans, and puts human civilization up on a pedestal to be feared and marveled at. That puts too much pressure on humans.

On the other hand, the modern idea that Earth is just another planet in a vast universe full of other planets is much more exciting and full of potential. It is exciting to think that there are other civilizations just like ours out there, basically waiting for us to come in contact.

I guess I'm saying that personally, I would find it disturbing to think that the human race was the "end-all-be-all" center of the universe, with nowhere else to go and nothing else to attain. Rather, believing that we are just a small part of a greater universe means the possibilities are virtually limitless for the human race.



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posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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Have have no idea what you said in the post above, but I know one thing...

...I find the pre-Copernican idea that the earth is the center of the universe to be a daunting idea -- i.e., it places too much importance on us humans, and puts human civilization up on a pedestal to be feared and marveled at. That puts too much pressure on humans.

On the other hand, the modern idea that Earth is just another planet in a vast universe full of other planets is much more exciting and full of potential. It is exciting to think that there are other civilizations just like ours out there, basically waiting for us to come in contact.

I guess I'm saying that personally, I would find it disturbing to think that the human race was the "end-all-be-all" center of the universe, with nowhere else to go and nothing else to attain. Rather, believing that we are just a small part of a greater universe means the possibilities are virtually limitless for the human race.



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That my friend is the beauty of the Geocosmos/concave Earth, you get the contentment of groundedness and attention to the immediate surroundings of a Flat earth cosm....and the Vast excitement of the Copernicosms endless possibilities microlised within the manageable palpatable threshold of one's grounded scope of awareness ...
www.theflatearthsociety.org...



posted on Oct, 17 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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"Being able to "see" more faces would not make these beings more dimensional. Therefore, your definition of what it means to be a 2-D being doesn't hold up"
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If my definition does not hold up...Then how come we are 3-dimensional beings...Who can only see 3 sides of a square, no matter how we hold it and look at it?...

Find a cube,hold it out in front of you and turn it around slowly...Try to see 4 sides of it at the same time...You cant...But if we were 4th dimensional beings,we would be able to see 4 sides of the square simultaneously...
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Dimensional analogy was used by Edwin Abbott Abbott in the book Flatland, which narrates a story about a square that lives in a two-dimensional world, like the surface of a piece of paper. From the perspective of this square, a three-dimensional being has seemingly god-like powers, such as ability to remove objects from a safe without breaking it open (by moving them across the third dimension), to see everything that from the two-dimensional perspective is enclosed behind walls, and to remain completely invisible by standing a few inches away in the third dimension.

By applying dimensional analogy, one can infer that a four-dimensional being would be capable of similar feats from our three-dimensional perspective. Rudy Rucker illustrates this in his novel Spaceland, in which the protagonist encounters four-dimensional beings who demonstrate such powers...< Wikipedia Quote
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A two-dimensional being might be able to conceive of a third-dimension. However, most in the two-dimensional world would find it futile unless they had a construct such as mathematics. Although the mathematical proof would be there, it is still hard to conceive of other dimensions since there is no visual imagery or verbal language constructs within our three dimensional world to fit other higher dimensional models.

The two-dimensional being would never be able to comprehend the existence of the sphere by viewing it from the two-dimensional realm because all that could be perceived is a curved line. However, if the being abstracted the thought process and understood mathematics, he might be able to extrapolate that the line forms a circle. He could walk around the circle to understand its existence, but would never be able to view the whole circle at once.


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