Originally posted by ChesterJohn
reply to post by negativenihil
The article should have been titled "Liberal America favor . . blah blah blah. the protest is full of conspiracy theorists, rich lazy kids, 9/11 truthers, Communist, Marxist, Criminals. If these represent the true America then America is sunk.
there were 800,000 minimum in Washington for the Tea Party Event. These guys at the "Flea Party OWS" event can't get over 5,000 at any given time.
edit on 14-10-2011 by ChesterJohn because: spelling
Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by negativenihil
Really? This is hilarious... anyone with half a brain and just a little bit of common sense can see that this is nothing more than Progressive propaganda designed to influence the ignorant, young, and impressionable voters. The Obama admin is scared to death and they know that their days are numbered. Just look at the number of people that attend the large, national Tea Parties compared to the number of people at the Occupy Wall Street protests. There is no comparison, because the tea parties are numbered in the tens of thousands (sometimes hundreds of thousands), whereas the OWS protests are numbered in the hundreds and the thousands. Hell, Glenn Beck's 8/28 rally had roughly 300,000+ people there. The Washington Compost is a very left leaning media source, so what else would you expect from them but a "story" like this.
Where was this poll taken? D.C... NYC... San Fran... or any other city from the great Utopia known as Libtardia? If a poll is taken in a bunch of left leaning areas then these results are clearly going to be the result. To be fair, if it were taken in right leaning areas the results would be the opposite. Polls are always skewed. I believe what my eyes and ears tell me, not what some lefty newspaper tells me.
Finally the vast majority of people that are at the OWS protests or are supportive of the OWS protests are ignorant followers. They are useful idiots. They are incapable of realizing the hypocrisy and the nonsensical aspect to their message. Just look at all of the people tweeting their garbage about corporate greed, and how big corporations are the problem. Again, they are TWEETING... so where did TWITTER come from? What is TWITTER? It's a very large, international corporation that exists solely because of CAPITALISM, and the freedom for someone to come up with an idea and then run with it. The same can be said about Facebook and Google, and yet none of these "socialists" protesting the large corporations have a problem with using the aforementioned large corporations as a medium for getting their message across.
These people are not against capitalism
They are against corruption that exists between the banks and the government.
I suppose conservatives should stop using Facebook or watching movie because of
the liberal connection?
I would stop drinking your own wine, it is probably why people are not attracted to the
Tea Party... You guys are petty and pessimistic much of the time.
Originally posted by VivaDiscordia
reply to post by ChesterJohn
Gee whiz, sounds like you know first hand, 'course you had to walk past the laid off steel workers, the homeless middle class families, the soldiers, the police officers, the banker who are still employed but agree that it's time to change and thousands of other living symptoms of systemic cancer. There's alot of them down there, with more joining every day and the fun part is that the worse things get, the more there will be. That's what America does. We fight.
Originally posted by apacheman
reply to post by ChesterJohn
Did it ever occur to you that the steel industry might have scaled back the corporate salaries to make up the difference in wages paid to the workers? The reason they relocated is not that the American worker demanded too much or put out an inferior product, but that they didn't want to invest in new plants and wanted to increase corporate salaries.
Most of the steel industry in the US was pre-World War II based, and was showing signs of age, in pointof fact, much of it was worn out.
In contrast, the steel industry overseas was mostly new, due to the fact that our air forces bombed the holy crap out of them during the war, and they had no choice but to rebuild new. Consequently they were more efficient than the 19th century relics in the US. So my goodness, why build a new factory in your own country and employ your own people when you could strengthen the countries of your former enemies and employ them cheaper, plus get your own people to subsidize your profits?
In another era, such behavior was considered treason.
Now it's just smart business.
Smart business for an individual, catastrophe for a nation.
That is what this protest is about: a desire to end the selfish, useless accumulation of wealth for a few individuals at the expense of the nation.
From where does one derive the "right" to unlimited wealth anyway?
No moral, ethical, or legal system I know of justifies it, and it shouldn't be allowed just because someone wants it.
Wealth should be capped.
Originally posted by apacheman
What gets me is how the conservatives rail against the government and Washington, usually ending with the assertion that if only businessmen with practical experience were in charge, everything would be just fine.
Excuse me?
Last time, and every time I've checked, the government and Washington were filled with nothing but businessmen. Every politician I know or am aware of is either a businessman, a corporate executive (not exactly the same thing, but close), or a toady to the business community who never worked a minimum wage job or had to actually compete in the economy on their own.
Businessmen pretty much don't know or care about anything but making money, and governments aren't in that line of work, rightfully so.
The paradigms businessmen bring to the table are ill-suited to deal with problems of governance, because governance shouldn't and can't be about making money. They are oriented to promoting individual wealth-building over addressing collective needs. "Running government like a business" ensures corruption and failure every time.
Most Americans support OWS because they find it impossible to side with the opposition and still maintain touch with reality.
When being unemployed constitutes disqualification for employment, no one in their right mind can NOT support OWS.
Left/right/upside down doesn't matter against the reality of massive unemployment, massively obvious fraud, massively obvious corruption, and massively obvious destruction of the environment.
Almost 80 percent of lawmakers have no academic background in business or economics, even as Congress grapples with deficits, unemployment and other economic issues of tremendous complexity, according to an independent analysis released Tuesday.
The Employment Policies Institute (EPI) found that only 8.4 percent of lawmakers majored in economics or a related field, while just 13.7 percent studied topics related to business or accounting.
Most Capitol Hill lawmakers (55.7 percent) focused their studies on government, law or the humanities, EPI found, while 11.5 percent majored in science- or technology-related fields.
Last time, and every time I've checked, the government and Washington were filled with nothing but businessmen.
