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Here's What The Wall Street Protesters Are So Angry About...

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posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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So, what are the protesters so upset about, really?

Do they have legitimate gripes?

To answer the latter question first, yes, they have very legitimate gripes.

And if America cannot figure out a way to address these gripes, the country will likely become increasingly "de-stabilized," as sociologists might say. And in that scenario, the current protests will likely be only the beginning.

The problem in a nutshell is this: Inequality in this country has hit a level that has been seen only once in the nation's history, and unemployment has reached a level that has been seen only once since the Great Depression. And, at the same time, corporate profits are at a record high.

In other words, in the never-ending tug-of-war between "labor" and "capital," there has rarely—if ever—been a time when "capital" was so clearly winning.


Source

Since it seems some people cannot grasp anything outside of their own little bubble of comfort, here are some really good reasons why people are pissed. The link contains several charts showing how screwed things are economically in the united states of america,

Here is one of those charts:



Not really hard to understand pictures is it? They're explained fairly well how Corporate profits are super high, and unemployment is at great depression levels.
Bunch of crybabies? Please

I also outlined some of the major issues in our world in another post, which i am going to quote right here:


I'm tired of people not getting this sh!t, its not hard to get.
Down at OWS, and at other occupy's in the united states alone, there are people gathering. Young, old, middleaged, republican, democrat, green party, socialist, communist, WHATEVER
It matters not no more about these lame labels people seem to adore, i guess it gives people some sense of accomplishment when they vote people in and they are still screwed.

They don't want handouts, they want the obvious slap in the face of these huge conglomerates have been handing out for the last 50 years. Its called ECONOMIC INEQUALITY. Google that sh*t. And you'll see. C'mon folks, believing the mainstream news? Haha.

Your tax money goes to bombs and guns and weaponry to kill eachother
Your tax money went to 'too big to fail' bank bailouts
Your money went to pay the huge loans the government owes to the federal reserve
The federal reserve has printed and handed out money to global entities, trillions worth
The official unemployment is at 9.1%, the unofficial unemploymed (includes underemployed, people who receive no government welfare, etc) is about 18% i do believe.
1/2 children starve every day
Our environment is screwed
We are in an energy crisis,
Several wasteful useless wars
Baught out politicians,
A government that does not work for the people anymore (though you have the illusion that it works)
People cannot afford healthcare
People work their asses off and get NOWHERE
People have to take credit out to feed their children (ask me, my parents had to do it when i was young, we were poor as hell)
Police brutality is through the roof
24 million vacant homes, forclosed mostly illegally
No jobs, jobs being shipped overseas. People have to work 3 or 4 jobs to make ends meet.
They're going after social security
Medical treatment in the US is the sh!ts.

And nothing is wrong? Screw off and look around, your life may be okay. But EVERYONE ELSES isn't. Its not about a lack of wanting to work, its not about laziness, its not about drugs or booze. Unless you've actually gone down there and experienced it for yourself, shut your damn mouths and do some of your own critical thinking.


Sorry for the language, but i got kind of ticked off. But its the truth. How much war money could have been used to make society better? Lots of it. Instead, here we are.

Thats my spew, might be in the wrong section, move it if necessary. But Here we are:

Vid:




Just a couple of videos.




posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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Things are getting interesting, the 1% is seeing the fear of "Terror" is fading, people are getting angry. So now they resort to saying these people are lazy anti-capitalist what ever, the funny thing is all they are doing by portraying them that way is identifying who is bought and paid for.

People are seeing through the lies that the solution is not to give the government more of our money so they can spend it on propping up bad business models and lining the pockets of CEOs.


edit on 13-10-2011 by benrl because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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In the short doc every time Obama spoke I couldn't help but feel like he was thinkin "Yip, this is gonna come back and bite me in the kiester one day"



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Found this video perusing.
And he breaks it down very nicely, and i have the book that all this comes from too, and i plan on reading it as soon as i get home but. Entering the 6th day of the Mayan Calendar, we are enting a 'flowering' of conciousness, it started on the 5th of september. 12 days later, still in the flowering of conciousness, OWS started.

could be something, could be nothing



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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Also, Here is an interesting link i found
It is called 'we stand with the 99%',
and it ends with "I am the 1%, But i stand with the 99%"

we stand with the 99%



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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A good quote from Martin Luther King comes to mind when I think about the OWS movement:

"You know my friends, there comes a time when people get tired of being trampled by the iron feet of oppression ..."

Something HAS to be done. People are getting TIRED of the current situation. TIRED OF IT.
edit on 13-10-2011 by HangTheTraitors because: (no reason given)


SM2

posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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here ya go.. sums it up





posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by SM2
here ya go.. sums it up




Funny stuff, aren't you late for you Glen Beck fan club meeting?
I think it's just hilarious that all these people are so apologetic towards the banks and companies that have robbed them and their fellow countrymen blind.


SM2

posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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the reason I say that the OWS people are mostly anti capitalists, commies so on and so forth is because that is what i see, when half the protesters are holding up sign of Che Guerra and socialist party usa propeganda, then what do you expect people will think?





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I could add more, but I figured this would be enough to illustrate my point.


SM2

posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 02:55 PM
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I am not apologizing for the banks at all. I am just saying that the OWS is mis represented. The protest is was planned by socialist leaning people to advance their goals, and I am sorry, while banks are evil, and rich are greedy, these protesters do not know what they are doing, and will accomplish nothing but tearing up a pretty nice privately owned park. My big point is, do not sit there and tell me how these people are fighting for freedom and liberty when what they are really doing is fighting to take more of my money, rights and freedoms away by wanting to implement even more socialistic policies and laws. Most of those " I have $25,000 in student debt" people maybe should have thought on if that degree in ancient Greek poetry really would land them a job or not. It is not my fault they made bad life choices in that regard (granted some of them i am sure hold useful degrees and can not find a job).



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 03:04 PM
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I should also add a little more to my post just to say so.
ANYONE can join the movement, anyone. It does not matter which political party you vote for, or which social construct you want to adhere to. It does not matter in the least,



Originally posted by SM2
here ya go.. sums it up




Welcome to the age of technology, so what people have these things? THATS HOW THE US IS! The US has everything at the suffering of everyone else, so your picture there is irrelevant. When you grow up with this crap, tends to happen you would use it to the best of its ability. Moot argument

This is about people, not socialism, not communism, not anti-capitalist, they are anti everything that is screwing us, get over it. Its not about GOP and all this other #. Anyone else wanna add more sheeple comments please go away, as i have no patience for your obvious trolling.

Tired of hearing armchair warriors saying "omg its a controlled protest" "omg they are backed by soros" "omg they are communists and are to be feared" how about go out and do something instead of sitting around waiting for someone else to do it for you.

People are FED UP. And if we don't change now, we. are. screwed.
You cant co-opt a global movement.
People are allowed to believe what they want to.

Canada has *omg* SOCIALIST health care, omg end of the world. Its working for us pretty damn well, aside from some high wait times sometimes.
I hear stories of people dying in american hospitals due to no insurance.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by SM2
reply to post by Procession101
 


I am not apologizing for the banks at all. I am just saying that the OWS is mis represented. The protest is was planned by socialist leaning people to advance their goals, and I am sorry, while banks are evil, and rich are greedy, these protesters do not know what they are doing, and will accomplish nothing but tearing up a pretty nice privately owned park. My big point is, do not sit there and tell me how these people are fighting for freedom and liberty when what they are really doing is fighting to take more of my money, rights and freedoms away by wanting to implement even more socialistic policies and laws. Most of those " I have $25,000 in student debt" people maybe should have thought on if that degree in ancient Greek poetry really would land them a job or not. It is not my fault they made bad life choices in that regard (granted some of them i am sure hold useful degrees and can not find a job).


Your money? Lol, thats funny
you know every single paper dollar is actually owned by the federal reserve? it is not your money, and it will never be your money, because money is fake, and has no real value other than to make the rich richer, and the poor poorer. Let me tell you, how much has gas gone up in the last 10 years? Food? Rent? Tuition?

Its not about handouts.
Google income inequality, also, look at the links before commenting, you see those nice graphs that illustrate how screwed america is? Yeah those ones, You will soon have NO MONEY.
You know that recession you're in again?
Hope you keep your job, because a lot of people have been laid off, can't get health insurance, cant get welfare, work 3 jobs. Seriously. Stop thinking about yourself and start thinking outside your comfort zone. Its about everyone as a whole, not "I need my money, no one else should have it", thats exactly the mentality of someone with billions in the bank.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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Me personally, i am doing quite decent for being barely a year out of school. 31k a year, can't complain really. My loans are high, but im more than capable of paying them myself,
I'm not looking for a handout.
I'm looking for the end of useless expensive wars
For the government to be concerned about its people, rather than a dollar sign offered by some lobbyist
For the money that we get taxed to actually be used for us, not a bomb dropped on a daycare.

To be honest, I'de be perfectly fine if the whole system went tits up, maybe we'd have some smart people doing something instead of a bunch of morons in office. Resource based economy, best way to go.


SM2

posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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I do agree that the banks and fed are screwing us, I will not argue that at all, no doubt about that. However, the thing people overlook is the simple facts at the heart of the matter. It is not a spontaneous "grass roots" protest. there is no such thing anymore. Someone had to secure the permits, had to promote the event, and in most cases had to secure secruity. All of these things take money. That money was provided by ad busters, which is linked to George Soros. Moveon.org and all big labor is there providing support. So you tell me how it is not backed by left? i understand that anyone can join the protests, and that is great. However, you can not claim to non party affiliated when all of the support organizations are left wing groups then add the spinkling of democratic house and senate members, sorry the no political affiliation does not jive. The people supporting this protest are the same ones that were blasting the tea party for far less party affiliation, but, I guess when the shoe is on the other foot it is ok. Anyways, do not get me wrong, i do not want them to stop protesting, they have the right to protest all they want, i would never dream of attempting to stop them from their right to speech, As an added benefit i get the entertainment of watching them be hypocrites and morons ( some of them, not all of them). To finish, I want them to have a nice peaceful, fulfilling, safe protest, I just do not agree with alot of the things going on there.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by SM2
will accomplish nothing but tearing up a pretty nice privately owned park.


The company that owns the park, just got a $135.8 million loan guarantee from the Department of Energy and Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s long-term girlfriend is on it's board of directors.

For people who are against capitalism, these links say it all for me.

www.spreadshirt.com...

www.cafepress.com... 07873&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=sem_product_feed&gclid=CLXO37K75qsCFct-5QodIUJZKQ


SM2

posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by AzureSky
Me personally, i am doing quite decent for being barely a year out of school. 31k a year, can't complain really. My loans are high, but im more than capable of paying them myself,
I'm not looking for a handout.
I'm looking for the end of useless expensive wars
For the government to be concerned about its people, rather than a dollar sign offered by some lobbyist
For the money that we get taxed to actually be used for us, not a bomb dropped on a daycare.

To be honest, I'de be perfectly fine if the whole system went tits up, maybe we'd have some smart people doing something instead of a bunch of morons in office. Resource based economy, best way to go.



I agree with you there 100%



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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and the dude lives in canada

to put this thread into context



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by SM2
reply to post by AzureSky
 


I do agree that the banks and fed are screwing us, I will not argue that at all, no doubt about that. However, the thing people overlook is the simple facts at the heart of the matter. It is not a spontaneous "grass roots" protest. there is no such thing anymore. Someone had to secure the permits, had to promote the event, and in most cases had to secure secruity. All of these things take money. That money was provided by ad busters, which is linked to George Soros. Moveon.org and all big labor is there providing support. So you tell me how it is not backed by left? i understand that anyone can join the protests, and that is great. However, you can not claim to non party affiliated when all of the support organizations are left wing groups then add the spinkling of democratic house and senate members, sorry the no political affiliation does not jive. The people supporting this protest are the same ones that were blasting the tea party for far less party affiliation, but, I guess when the shoe is on the other foot it is ok. Anyways, do not get me wrong, i do not want them to stop protesting, they have the right to protest all they want, i would never dream of attempting to stop them from their right to speech, As an added benefit i get the entertainment of watching them be hypocrites and morons ( some of them, not all of them). To finish, I want them to have a nice peaceful, fulfilling, safe protest, I just do not agree with alot of the things going on there.


Well, they didnt get any permits to be in Liberty plaza. Promoting the event is easy when the internet is here, and there is no security, the people who do security volunteered to do it. Adbusters is a canadian activist magazine. OWS is not left or right wing, they have come out and said that, and have had the consensus, and no, there is no political affiliation. It is irrelevent. If someone went down there and was like "vote for me and ill do all these things!" its not going to work, they'll get booed, there was even a general assembly about the celebrities, and most of the people attending didnt want them to come at all because they are only trying to suit their own needs.

sorry for being a little brash(in a crap mood), but its hard for it to be a US political thing when it has spread to every single country. Canada, japan, africa can't vote democrat or repub =P. I hope it keeps going, and continues to grow.

Because honestly, me as a person, I am franky sick and tired of all this bull# game we're playing. We have the ingenuity to create great things, solve all earths problems, have a peaceful lifestyle with every other nation on earth. the only thing standing in our way is the big conglomerates, and the strings they have in government. The world would be a lot better under a resource based economy, where human ingenuity can flourish instead of being trampled on. There are some people who have some fantastic ideas! fantastic ones! something that could revolutionize this, or that, but they can't do anything with their ideas because money stands in the way, patents stand in the way too.

Check out the venus project, its a decent site and makes a tonne of sense. Make all our needs in abundance (which is way more than possible), and allow humans to learn, educte, create, grow. Instead of the bull# we have for a world today.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
and the dude lives in canada

to put this thread into context


Where i live is irrelevent, it doesnt stop everything i say from being completely true, you dont see it then perhaps you should wake up a little more. Where i live does not matter in relevance to a global catastophe that we're in. Dont see it, read a book.


SM2

posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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just because they say they are not left wing does not make it so, sorry, they can say what they want, the visual evidence points in a different direction, as does the money. Noone believed the tea party when they said they were not a right wing movement, so why should OWS receive the benefit of the doubt?




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