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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 04:25 AM

Originally posted by IAMIAM
reply to post by NewAgeMan

If you loved me you would try what I ask so that you can understand me.

Get a glass of water, or can of soda, or cup of coffee, what ever.

Look at it and say the following

I have in my hand a glass of water, can of soda, what ever.

I am the King.

It is now a glass of wine.

The King names things what the king wants to name things.

Please just try those words. It is not about what you see. It is about your God given right to name things.

With Love,

Your Brother

Wow, it took a while for you to come around to that one. Guess I shouldn't go away as often...

Ooh! Ooh! Let me try! Let me try!!(Says the annoying kid in the back of the room.)

I hold in my hand an egg.

I am the King.

It is now a golden sphere.

The King names things what the king wants to name things.

Or to quote a certain movie about a certain machine that controls all humanity....

"What if it got some things wrong? What if chicken really tasted like tuna fish?"

The King names things what the King wants to name things.

Oh and btw, I have been away, so the mandatory....

"How are you brothers?"
I for one am glad to be home...

posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 04:27 AM

Originally posted by IAMIAM
Does the simplicity of that truth unnerve you?

Watch me walk on water....

I stand.

Can't you see that the whole EARTH is under my feet?

Every ocean, every river, every stream.

Everything is under my feet?

Look down

Is there anything over your feet that you did not put there?

With Love,

Your Brother

Now THAT one was better.

posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 06:04 AM
reply to post by NewAgeMan

wow... this rob is as absurd as that rob!

You just described me almost to a t, and this is something I have been trying to deal with lately, so very apt post to find!... sitting hear at almost lunchtime having done nothing productive again so far today and spending way too long on ats, inside is that little voice saying come on, FFS get on with it... you went to bed last night sure today would be the day of change - the day you get ahead of yourself and prove you are who you can be, you are your potential. Instead im sat here replying to this (inspirational) thread...

so where do we go now? I'm off to do some actual work, in the real world, im going to stop feeding my ats addiction, avoiding the real work and searching these boards for answers... I am beginning to think the answer is already available, just not here... we'll here with me but not on ats or anywhere else in internet land. I am beginning to think if I stop searching I'll find it.

Thanks for your honesty and openness - this is my favorite bit of your post and for me the closest to where im at:

"You call yourself the "eternal optimist" and yet are so lazy that you don't actually DO much of anything at all! You procrastinate to a high degree of skill and self-deception, exerting more time and energy in NOT doing the very thing you planned to do the day before. A "leader of tomorrow", being an all-or-nothing type of guy, you choose nothing today. Why do today what I can put off until tomorrow, is the lie you tell yourself, day and day out. "Thank God for Monday!" is your Friday's declaration of joy and eternal freedom. You are absurd."

and this: "Why do today what I can put off until tomorrow" is one of my favorite little saying's - I say it to the wife all the time - needless to say she hates it, I find it funny, but funny sad because actually that is what I'm like...

posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 01:16 PM
reply to post by doubledutch

It must begin with our state of being, and we need to be clear about who we are choosing to be and how we're showing up in the world, both to ourselves and others.

It's no use going, I'll do this, in order to, have such and such and then I'll get to BE this way or that way.

First we must be authentic and true to ourselves, already have the everything that we already are, and enjoy the best of the best that we are, and then allow the doing to flow freely from inspiration, and barring that just "fake it until you make it".

It's all the should and shouldn't stuff, even that which we saddle ourselves with, which is the stumbling block, that and the idea that we'll be happy when...

We need to move from

do have be


be have do

And we need to begin, imho, to have an appreciation for timelessness, as the space within which to function playfully and creatively, like a child.

Once we know the calendar and the clock are absurd, then it's no longer something that we need to rebel against.

I hope that helps.

posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 01:34 PM
reply to post by 74Templar

Mere word games alone aren't going to be sufficient to move the human being into the domain of eternal freedom imo. (that's no slight at all on you IAMIAM who I know contributes to the lives of others around you).

Which is why I look forward to introducing the 5c's of Life Transformation into this thread (time permitting this evening), because it's something we can actually DO to perform miracles of the human heart, turning the most mundane of human interactions into "water-into-wine" experiences. This process will also put our own committment to being authentic to the test, and hone our skills in this area. Lastly, as an added bonus, we will get to have the experience of being world changers, starting with ourselves and our own lives and then moving out from there into the lives of those we touch, starting with our own families and circles of friends, coworkers and aquaintances. So this thread is meant to move from text on a screen to the rubber that meets the road and goes somewhere fast and far, with maximal TORQUE!

Please stay tuned, and prepare to omtimize yourself and the world around you in ways that you cannot now even begin to fathom or imagine. We will be doing miracles of a sort before this thread has outlived its usefulness, you'll see.

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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 02:27 PM
I have time for this though

Human Absurdities

(and sentiments) (partial list only)

Assuming everything based solely on prior "knowledge" as accumulated information
Not listening with an open mind free from a priori or even a contemptuous bias
Seeking first to be understood and only then, to understand
The need to know and be right at all cost, even at the cost of truth and reality itself
Unworthiness, as in "I'm not worthy".
Insecure sense of self identity as in "I'm not ok"
Fear of judgement of others
The need to look good, at all cost, even to the point of looking bad
Unending repetition of personal drama
Playing victim or victimizing (in whatever way however great or small)
Farting in an elevator and then pretending it must have been someone else
Hating self and others
Judging - comparing
Defending beliefs
Intollerance of the "beliefs" of others, not matter how superficial they may be
Love of money for what it is
Desire for fame
Lust for "power" and "presitige"
I'm smarter than you
You're smarter than me
I'm better than you
You're better than me
I'm stupid
I'm unlovable
I'm worthless
I'm absurd
I am God
I am not God
I am you
You are me
I am this or that "thing" or "adjective"
I'm a thing
I'm an animal
I'm nobody
I'm somebody extra special
I'm not spiritual
I'm spiritual
I'm not spiritual enough
I'm TOO spiritual
I'm afraid of you
I'm afraid of me
Life sucks
There's never enough
I have it all
I failed
I won
The past determines the future
I'm alone
No one loves me
It's my parents fault
It's the aliens fault
It's the NWO's fault (had to throw those in being we're here at ATS)
I'm powerless
I don't care
I care
He doesn't love me
She doesn't love me
Why don't they love me?
Money can buy me happiness
Money can't buy me happiness
I'm bad
I'm good
I'm crazy
I'm sane
I'm a fool
I'm not a fool
I can't dance
YOU can't dance
I can't laugh
YOU can't laugh
"They" are to blame
"I" am to blame
"YOU" are to blame
This sucks
It should not be what it is
It cannot be changed
There is no hope
Love is just a feeling
Time is of the essence
This life is hell
I hage people
I hate animals
I hate God
I know what's really happening
I know who and what I really am
You don't know what's really happening
You don't know who and what you really are
I can fix you
You can fix me
I'll fix them
When will it all end?
When will it all begin?
If I do so and so, then I will get to have such and such, and then I will at last get to be happy, maybe
It's never enough
It's too much
I want more
When will it happen?
What time is it now?

posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 03:00 PM
List cont'd

that the preceeding post did not earn a star, yet
that NAM needs a star on the preceeding post right away.


posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 03:34 PM
reply to post by NewAgeMan

I am absurd and stuck here with you, and im not even 30 yet and feel my hinder foot dragging behind as I look for my father in the city of Dis, but first I seek out the father before I venture without his light.

posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 03:49 PM

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
List cont'd

that the preceeding post did not earn a star, yet
that NAM needs a star on the preceeding post right away.


I was waiting to see how many you would list.

With Love,

Your Brother

posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 03:58 PM
reply to post by Xemplar

Seek and you shall find, knock and the door will be answered. You're on your way.

Btw, we all come to the table crippled in some way or another, that was very authentic of you to say that.

When you grok and feed the sheep, which we will show you how, you will find him. Heck prior to that, the moment you come to your senses to make the return path home, he will come running to meet you!

Oh to be enveloped in the loving arms of the father, once lost now found, once dead (to the truth and life) now alive again.

Enveloped by the love of God, it's not hard, but it's not always easy either. Simple, but not easy as they say. Takes courage.

posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 04:27 PM
reply to post by NewAgeMan

What's also absurd about that list, is that we're willing to settle for that, and let ourselves slip right off the hook of reality, to plunge headlong back into the illusion of our absurdity forever (it would seem) unrecognized in self-forgetting.

posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 04:57 PM

"The kingdom of heaven is like a great net thrown into the sea, with all the boats working together, the fishermen calling out to one another, joyful, enthusiastic."
JC (paraphrased)

P.S. If you know you are absurd, and are coming into the light of awareness, come and allow me to make you a fisher of people (instructions to follow).

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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:16 PM

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
The Absurdity of Judgement

coming soon... it'll be fun don't worry.

I think that at some point, as a result of the cumulative weight of collective absurdities, both our own and that of others, we get all bent out of shape, spiritually, and as such, we end up mired in fear, frustration, and insecurity, but not knowing where to turn or how to direct this anguish, we fire it like a laser beam at our fellow man in harsh negative judgement, whether we even know the man or not, even at a distance!

I was to the point where I could fire a judgement at someone from well over 100 paces. But it was starting to get rather painful, for me, and increasingly absurd, and so I went to my good mother, Kay, the supposed wise one in these affairs (I'd moved "home" quite some time prior, having already fallen into a crumbled heap of failed ventures in my chosen profession, and from just basically getting squished by "the world"), so I go to her, and I say, I almost plead - "Mom, this is getting ridiculous, I'm judging everyone all over the place, and it's starting to get really painful, and it's like I can't even help myself, I'll see some guy maybe at a whole football field away (or MORE) say heading into a beerstore for example, and I will judge him, harshly, and it's really starting to bother me", I proclaimed, almost tearfully, to which she replied in her maddenly gentle and calm and wise way "why Bob, didn't you know? All judgements are simply a judgement about one's self!" she says (to my dawning horror, and imcomprehension and inability to grasp what she was saying). I said "but Mom, the world is filled with assholes they're everywhere, and all manner of jerks, you must realize that, c'mon!", but she didn't miss a beat, uttering in that same calm unconditionally loving motherly way "oh Bob, there's a big difference between judging and EVALUATING, there's nothing wrong with evaluating at all, but there is something wrong with judging. To "judge" is to assign a greater or less than worthiness to another, relative to yourself, and that's when it becomes painful, yes for you, since again, all judgement is simply a judgement about yourself. It has nothing to do with the man entering into the beerstore, don't you see?"

She was right again of course..!

But that's just the half of it! There's another half, even more absurd than that, of such a thing were possible which it is, and that's where everything (and everybody) has been falling through the net.

more to follow.. need to regroup here and head out for a "celebratory cigarette"..


Ok the other half of this equation re: the absurdity of negative judgement of others.

It's YOU, and ME, it's about who and what WE really are. and our heart and our love for ourselves and the plight of our fellow man (for the sake of this illustration, let's just set aside, as on a shelf for future consideration, all the "evil people" who fill the prisons and roam the streets). Since all the judgements we hold and disperse as if from a gattling gun, at anyone and everyone, especially those who we profess to actually love, are in truth judgements about our own SELF, as my good mother Kay pointed out so devastatingly to me back there going on 14 years now I guess - then we're screwed, right out of the gate, being so incapacitated and so utterly incapable of loving anyone, not the least of whom is ourselves, it's absurd.

The very frame of reference (brotherhood of man) which we REQUIRE (as a first/last cause) in order to meet our needs to love and be loved, and to grow, and flourish, is destroyed, by our own hand, because of a judgement or series of judgements we hold, not to anyone else, but to ourselves! We thus, in our negative judgemental stance towards others, both those we love and those we don't and those we don't even KNOW, we immediately RUIN for ourselves, once and for all time, the one and only and the first and the last opportunity to become a wholly authentic human being and one who is loved and accepted as they are ie: not judged by others. It's "crazy making" as my mother used to call it!

It's like an ANTI-kingdom of heaven net of hatred we're throwing around, and it's very hole-ey, if not unholy (being created simply from ignorance and absurdity) and one through which everyone "else" falls through, but worose one that we fall through, while pulling them all away from it's (the REAL one's) loving influence while we are at it, and for what? Why? It makes ZERO sense, unless we are mired in what I call the "absurdities of the injustices" of our life, which prohibits our movement to "work the net of love" through our own inability to forgive, starting with ourselves and those closest to us, from our parents to our siblings, to our very closest friends, neighbors, aquaintances, colleagues, and even to strangers, and multinationals of every creed and colour who comprise the whole mass of humanity. To a one we simply did not know what we were doing (for the most part, we'll worry about those "other" people later..), we were absurd!. We did not understand the nature of the ties which form the heavenly net of love, or those which would separate us, and bind us, within the constraint our own insecurities, from a mutual, participative, free and loving creative enjoyment, for the sake of love, and simple fun and happiness, because it's the right thing to do and as we know goodness is "good" for goodness' own sake, not not because it's not bad (another absurdity).

There's all the feedback in the world, and the feedback of loving non-judgementalism is by far more enjoyable than it's hatefilled, judgemental counterpart, and we know that one - been there, done that, got the t-shirt as they say. This isn't mere "theory" but observations and therefore knowledge based in personal experience, and one which we all share, each and every one of us.

We cannot possibly operate the net of love from the boats floating on the sea of ignorance and absurdity, happily, joyfully and with enthusiasm until we "get" this, until we grok of it most fully and then set forth to begin to put it into practice (basically the opposite of what we've been doing with everyone), beginning with those closest to us, and then working outwardly from there, and there's much to do and very many fish to catch!

What a time to be alive! (The ocean spray, the other boats, the great net of love, the FISH, oh, my, God!)

P.S. All that said, we must remember to maintain an "even keel", since there's always a fine-line threshold between holiness, and assholiness.

Man overboard!



edit on 19-10-2011 by NewAgeMan because: edit

posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 11:46 PM
The 5 C's of Life Transformation

coming soon, if anyone's willing, and is willing to do the hard work involved as a result of their grokking the previous post.

There is no fishing without a group of courageous fishermen.

The first assignment, if you wish to get started, is simply to make a list of everyone in your life who you judge negatively, yourself included, starting with any who you "hate" (that's a harsh word).

Once you have your list, report in, and let us know that you are ready to begin. Please trust me that it's all good, and that it WILL work.

Until then, disclosing this secret wisdom would be like needlessly casting pearls before swine (if you'll forgive the saying, I don't mean you, you know what I mean).

Best Regards,


P.S. If you can't stand your life and human relationships any more as they are, this effort will be well worth it I promise, just please keep an open mind and report in when you have your list. Think of this as a type of experiment for a movement of new life and possibility better than in the movie "pay it forward". But to work, it requires your involvement, your willingness, and open mindedness, nothing more.

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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 01:17 AM

So once again, here we stand, eh, (said like "fisherman Don" from a prior post), a whole field that we didn't even work for just ripe for the harvest, but no one's available to do the work! That's why I do what I do, he'd say, with a big smile and a twinkly in his eye. There aint nuthin like it in the whold world, he'd say, and he meant it, big time (he liked to say that a lot, "Big Time").

He knew, and I it would appear that I was the fish he helped catch, thank you so much Don, brother. People like him they hold the fort while everyone else flies all over hells half acre on a rampage.

But it's time for us to press on in, and through, don't you see, like a little thing of dough that was leavened all through. We can't shirk it I don't think, but I don't think it's all half bad to begin with, the simple thing that's required of us. "Simple, but not easy", Don would say, chuckling. "But it CAN and simply must be done since who's about to settle for less than best, it just doesn't roll, it doesn't sell" Don would say, and then he'd laugh, sit back and say something like "It's a dog that don't hunt." and laugh out loud, and you'd like GET IT" and laugh at yourself all the way home, in your fancy car with the company vanity plate on the back so as to "look good".

We can do what Don did, what Jesus did, what his desciples did, we CAN. But it starts with us, and takes but a small amount of courage and leap of faith, the courage and the faith to be simply true to ourselves and all those who we love, which ultimately includes everyone, since you can't just reserve your love for those who love you only, because that's not LOVE, not the real thing, but human, absurd, conditional love, which more often than not suffers from a terrible deficit of and abject failure, in love. It's widespread and complete too as you know, which makes the priviledge and honor of being of service, all the more inwardly enjoyable, because you know you just KNOW that it does have an impact and a difference, a difference that can be experienced, not just by us, but reflected back to us through others, at all levels. It begins with us, deep within us, right at the source level, and it's a wellspring of a vast love of HUGE proportions and magnitude, if only we could figure out how to somehow harness this love, for both God and for ourselves, and we can.

Some things appear "too good to be true" but every once in a while, something, an idea or an ideal, once APPLIED, really are, and contain imbedded within themselves the power to move mountains of historical causation, real and authentic power, while at the same time retaining the simple power to be ouurselves as we are, and true to our truest self (again, self reinforcing).

And then we turn and face the world and our neighbor, and look again, and see, having finally, at long last, taken the massive PLANK our of our own eye.

Then it would seem, as things progress, that the mere splinters by comparison (it's quite the ordeal getting a plank out of one's own eye let me tell you) simply EJECT right out of our brother's eye.

Thus, if we take our absurdity, and our inauthenticity, to others, and share it with them in the right context, as a needed clearing for us, which although it involves them, casts no dispersions upon them of any kind, but which also seeks to achieve a breakthrough for both parties, if there is a mechanism by which this can be done, like a game of authenticity in our human interactions, then at the very least even if you cannot change the whole world without, you can certainly change it for yourself and everyone you meet, for the rest of your life. Would that not represent a game worth playing?

I'm getting desperate here in my recruitment pitch for volunteers to actually DO something, something which really makes a difference for someone you love dearly. That said, would you do it, if it made perfect rational sense to you?

I don't want anything from anyone.

I just want the word to be spread in such a way, that it fully "groks" as it goes, enough perhaps, just maybe, to make a REAL and lasting difference in our world, and why not here, and why not me and you, right now? Eh?

posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 06:12 PM

“Someday, after mastering the winds, the waves, the tides and gravity, we shall harness for God the energies of love, and then, for a second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.”
~ Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

I thought that day was upon us, now, this day.

Alas it will have to await another day..

People are not willing to take things all the way to their ultra-rational conclusion.

They don't mind being absurd, and blinded by their own absurdity.

Jesus himself they hung up upon a cross.


posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 06:20 PM

All aboard! Ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaa!

Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay

Crazy, but that's how it goes
Millions of people living as foes
Maybe it's not too late
To learn how to love
And forget how to hate

Mental wounds not healing
Life's a bitter shame
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train

Let's Go!

I've listened to preachers
I've listened to fools
I've watched all the dropouts
Who make their own rules
One person conditioned to rule and control
The media sells it and you live the role

Mental wounds still screaming
Driving me insane
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train

I know that things are going wrong for me
You gotta listen to my words

Heirs of a cold war
That's what we've become
Inheriting troubles I'm mentally numb
Crazy, I just cannot bear
I'm living with something' that just isn't fair

Mental wounds not healing
Who and what's to blame
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train

posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 06:22 PM

posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 06:33 PM
reply to post by a1red3

Thanks for the vid, and the sentiment, but strangely, the video you linked had the music for this one, not Ozzy!

posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 06:35 PM
That's why it's absurd!

Actual song "Dreamer" by Ozzy:

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