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Tiny brown dwarf found floating free in space

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posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 09:56 AM
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Cant help but see the way these discoverers reveal their findings like they are promoting soapies with a dash of infomercials "but wait theirs more" scenarios. But a nice find OP, wil s&f u once I know how. Like the destonations of dwarf stars floating mass, so are the light years their away from our lives.




posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by dtrock78
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Ah!

So, by that rationale, if it's already happened, but you can't know anything quicker than the speed of light, you're saying it already happened 500 years into the future. See the paradox here? It's only happened relative to how close you were.

If a star blows up 100 million light years away, but we're still seeing and feeling the light from it in real-time....did it really blow up yet?


Being unaware something has occured does not change the fact it has occured. Say you could instantly teleport to any location, and you were close said star and watched it blow up and then teleported to Earth were you saw that star in the sky and could still feel it, that does not change the fact that star is gone. What is not gone is the light that has already been pumped into the universe. Knowledge is relative to distance perhaps (although that may not always be true), but knowledge is merely the interpretation of facts, and interpretations can be wrong.



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by Ryanssuperman

Originally posted by Observer99

Originally posted by dtrock78
Want to really "trip out" concerning light years? If you were on a spaceship, right now, 519 light years from space, in your "timezone", Christopher Columbus is just discovering America.

Time, unlike what many people think, is only relative to your position in the physical universe. Something that happened right next to me won't "happen" for billions of years on the other side of the galaxy. And vice versa.


Well, if neutrinos travel FTL then that interpretation is at least warped, if not destroyed.

Actually, I can destroy your interpretation with basic logic:

You and Joe are on planets 500 light years apart. On your planet the year is 2000 AD. You make the claim "on that other planet, it is in fact 1500 AD, because they see the light from 1500 AD. Time on that planet is 500 years behind ours."

Someone asks Joe the same question. Joe similarly says that it is 2000 AD and that YOU are living in 1500 AD.

Clearly you are both wrong.


You're missing what he's saying. He's not saying in actuality Joe's planet is in the year 1500 AD, while his is in 2000AD. He's saying the image/light from Joe's planet that he can see is from 1500 AD. Pretty simple to understand.


No, he is saying it is actually 1500 AD, read his post and his next post where he says a start that blows up and is 100million light years away has not actually blown up for us on Earth. He is equating distance with events actually happening, not with the knowledge of them happening (as you did and he should be doing).



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by dtrock78
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Ah!

So, by that rationale, if it's already happened, but you can't know anything quicker than the speed of light, you're saying it already happened 500 years into the future. See the paradox here? It's only happened relative to how close you were.

If a star blows up 100 million light years away, but we're still seeing and feeling the light from it in real-time....did it really blow up yet?



im confused. when it happened is not when we see it but when it happened. our seeing it is how far away it takes us to realize it. no?

anyways, so yeah as far as distance, this particular wandering brown dwarf (a few times the size of jupiter?) could be anywhere now, not necessarily 900 light years away since it is a wandering entity,

it could be approaching now 900 yrs forward, our solar system from behind the son for all we know?



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