Does anyone else have aliens remotely torturing them while they have agents chase them around?

It really does sound like Tourettes.

started 2005 ish
first two years in your head
2007 you join ATS it advances

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Have you been drinking heavily this whole time?

Seriously don't listen to people on here and take what they say as truth, hell stop reading ATS and go live your life with out the paranoia and just pure crazy that dwells here.

Maybe they are targeting you because they are scared of what you can do. Like they are trying to prevent you from your true purpose here.

You should try building up your mind, meditate frequently, learn how to make a psychic shield to protect yourself. There's a bunch of books out there on this stuff.

Originally posted by MegaCurious

From this point on, the story gets way too wild. In summary, it started with just me getting "chased around". Then after the first few months they moved on to them using some sort of "psychic" or something like that. This "psychic" just stayed there in my head all day and night. For the first two years, I just heard it in my head for the most part, no biggie. After that it started with the more physical stuff, preventing me from falling asleep, sleep walking, extreme rumbling of various body parts (it vibrates, usually makes a sound, but it's so intense that you'd lose your mind).

Eventually, I realized that it's not possible for the FBI or CIA or the US Government to chase someone around all day and all night across multiple countries for multiple years. It's simply impossible, and even if it was possible they'd run out of money. Once you add in the "psychic", there's simply no way. The only thing that would have that kind of technology would be like space aliens or something.

I would argue that it is totally possible.

Imagine a sophisticated computer surveillance system, that spans multiple countries, designed to track "suspected terrorists" in real time.

Except that innocent people who aren't terrorists can end up on the watch list and subjected to the same covert harassment and torture as the real terrorists.

The system can make use of things like your cell phone to triangulate on your position, tracking devices planted in your car, RFID chips implanted in your body, etc.

The "psychic" that you say is with you all the time and directly affects your mind and body though, that's quite something. I don't even get that, I don't think...

Demonic possession, maybe? Have you checked with any psychics or mediums to see if maybe you're infested by some kind of evil spirit?

Originally posted by boony
Yeah, I know. It's impossibly pointless to post anything with the word "Jesus" on a conspiracy site and get a response other than "get your head checked".
Its impossibly pointless to post that aliens dont exist, they are demons in disguise, and its impossibly pointless to suggest that if you want the negative spiritual activity out of your life you need to stop the sin in your life.
Of course thats impossible as well.
Go find a really good Christian church that teaches nothing but the Bible, try it for a couple of weeks at least, if it doesnt work, if it doesnt improve your situation leave and call Christianity a fraud and a dummys religion.
There is only one way out of a demonic attack or manifestation.
Jesus, he has helped me.

It isn't pointless to post what you think / believe or Believe \ Think. I believe everyone will find out for themselves sooner or later, I learn from everyone good and bad. Faith is something science "as of yet" is only beginning to understand with all their knowledge, technology and drive they have. I also believe that there are those who know what is going on and hide it from us for whatever reason. (Knowledge is power). I have come to a conclusion Logically, scientifically based that science will have a hard time discrediting. Power can not move without energy to drive it. The Yin and Yang, positive and negative polarities attract and like polarities repel. Black and White, male and female ahhh yes but who or what divides it all?

Answers: So many answer lie in languages, why? Every lie needs a part of the truth to be believable or no one else will believe it. What was mankind's original language? We all live in an enclosed ecosystem, normally everyone should speak the same language right or wrong? Scientifically speaking Ahem.....
Animals of their kind communicate with their own kind via movements, colors and body language and other methods that we are just beginning to discover. Humans did the same until they developed language (or so we are taught). What happened? Why after thousands no, millions of years animals still communicate with their kind (and others) via the same methods yet humans have different languages to express themselves in only a few short thousand years?

Hold on, it's a wild ride and I'm not the one who is conducting this ride.................

Put the pieces of the puzzle together and find out!



Let's say an artist mixes white and black together, what color would it make? Anyone?

First, you should stop the drinking, or at least reduce consumption greatly.
Second, if truly have negative entities following you, use some form of protection. Meditating with the intent to rid evil entities. Meditating with the focus on the root chakra. Maybe purchase a grounding stone. It is said that they protect you. Black Obsidian is a good one for this purpose.
Third, if the second step doesn't work, see a doctor.

reply to post by MegaCurious


What you call aliens are demons. You say the government is helping them with technology...I can see that since most of our leaders are satanists.

My advise to you would be to turn to Jesus Christ and pray that they will leave you alone. Also the drinking doesn't help. The Bible says to not get drunk and drinking probably gives them more control over you.

The Bible also says that certain demons will not come out without fasting and prayer. www.creationtips.com...

I have the reacurring dream of change while being incapacitated by shadows.

Originally posted by MegaCurious


Like I said, the point of my post isn't to alert you to anything or save you from anything. I could care less about you.

Now nice of you. I'm impressed, I don't know about others.

First, eliminate other possibilities like mental illness. That is not a dig, it's sound advice. If it were mental illness you would not know and would believe it is real. Eliminate that first. You can't do that yourself, you have to seek a professional to evaluate you. You can't do it here either.

I think I'll go ahead and care about you as my beliefs dictate and hope you did not mean what you typed.

Originally posted by nineix
reply to post by Juston

 

I wasn't belittling anyone, even when I was tempted to. I honestly think the OP has undiagnosed Tourettes syndrom and should see their family doctor about getting a referral to a specialist.

You should investigate the history of psycho-therapy.

Anyone who knew the facts of how tragic and illogical that field has been historically and today, would never suggest even to the craziest person to go 'get help' aka 'tortured'.

Yeah, that guy says stuff we don't like, let's pump him full of dangerous medications that are barely understood and if he gets outta hand demanding freedom let's tie them up in a straight-jacket....


If you actually cared about someone's well being you would consider the 'get help' cliche as the least reasonable solution. Only in the most drastic and dangerous situations should actions like this be considered.

Not all the time just because some guy said things you don't think make sense.

Also, the government is messing with us all with HAARP mind control weapons. Check out this from the history channel on HAARP mind control. www.disclose.tv... This goes into how they can put thoughts in your head, make you hear voices, make you feel any emotion they want to. If you do research about government being satanists there is a lot of information out there. Check out Bohemian Grove. I really do feel that your problem is possibly both, government and demons.

Also if you are on any of the psychotropic medication get off of it.

I have had a little bout with this and thought I was going insane. I would have voices of people I know wake me up. It went on for 6 months before I figured out what it was. I mean they would sound like my daughter screaming for help and wake me out of a dead sleep or other people I know or they would simply be calling my name. It was always when I was asleep and would wake up and just hear them and then it would be quiet.

I wasn't getting much sleep so I went online and found other people that were having the exact same problem. They were demons. So I started a prayer campaign against them. In a few weeks they were gone, never to bother me again. Your case sounds much worse though. Turn to Jesus Christ. If God is with you, who can be against you?

Originally posted by kwell
reply to post by MegaCurious

 

What you call aliens are demons. You say the government is helping them with technology...I can see that since most of our leaders are satanists.

I must admit that's a really good point there.

I enjoy a nice debate with you Kwell (about the aliens vs demons/angels topic), but sadly this time you got me.

I can't really debate that correlation very well. Good work buddy.

reply to post by MegaCurious


Okay, I have read through the thread thus far.

I do not see any evidence that it has to do with aliens, so let me put that on the back-burner for a moment and I'll go back to it.

1) General Eyes and several others have suggested trying medication. That, of course, is an obvious possibility. If this is delusion, it will work. All is solved.

2) If you are drinking a lot, that relaxes the throat muscles, and if you lie down and sleep (or pass out) the inability to breathe followed by a snore-like sound as you described is possibly nothing more than sleep apnea. Lack of uninterrupted sleep causes all sorts of anxiety problems and even delusions.

So far, if either of those first two are appropriate-- you have an easy and painless way to resolve this.

Now for the aliens or an alternative:

3) I once had a career that had me in a lot of secure government installations (e.g., Lompoc and Pantex, type places) and a few that, as they say, "do not officially exist." That got me vetted (checked by the government to make sure I was really one of the "good guys"). Apparently there is some security clearance they provide civilians that the civilian is not told about. I have PTSD and so am hyper-vigilant-- thus I notice lots of things (and people) out of place that others do not, so it was rather easy for me to suspect I was being followed, and I only confirmed by mistake-- almost a comedy of errors. I knew someone who would know about what I had observed, and I checked.

It was easy to learn Why I was being followed, and I could have guessed anyway. If you can think of an answer to "Why?" then you may be suspecting aliens because you underestimate how things work in our government. I was amazed at the resources used for little ol' me. They (the government) spent some money-- and at least two men acting separately. Since then, I have been approached by the Secret Service, twice, as a reference for two men they were checking out. And it is not as dramatic as it it will sound, but it is at least fun for me to say, "I won't say why they came to me, and what they knew I knew!"

Yeah, I was right-- that was fun.

Anyway, I wonder about one other possibility that is a bit beyond the normal of (1) A medically treatable situation, (2) symptoms of sleep apnea and (3) having an unusually thorough back-ground check, so...

4) Visions. They can be difficult to interpret, and one theory is that religious (like me) will tend to describe angels or some such; while those without religious imagery close to mind will describe beings which trigger an intuition of the supernatural as "aliens." Just something to consider and I would think you could dismiss quickly if that does not seem to be a possibility for you. So, two more...

5) Demons. Yeah, I know. It is like posting about aliens on this site. I don't believe in aliens, and yet I know there a demons (and, No, I don't have pictures!). It would be the least likely of the possibilities, but within the human experience and fitting your description of torturing. Odd about the spitting, though. Spitting originated as a curse, I believe, based on medieval metaphysics which included the belief that the spit of a Christian has the same effect as holy water-- and so insulted and potentially wounded a demon. I would be hard-pressed to expect a demon to spit at your presence. On the other hand, being somewhat belligerent by nature, I know I would spit at the ground as a reply (then again, PTSD also makes fear so normal as to feel nothing, so I can be reckless).

That reminds me, you need to do something, now-- constant fear and constant stress may lead to PTSD-- and you do not want PTSD. Lastly...

6) Whitley Strieber's Communion. I take it with grain of salt. Furthermore, if true, I take it as a vision; but I have biases, and I can (conceivable), be wrong. So, you may wish to read the book.

My last comment is this: After reading your post, I took your post to be sincere. I hope so, because I had a great one liner planned: "It sounds like you are describing the activities of my ex-wife!"

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by nineix
reply to post by Juston

 

I wasn't belittling anyone, even when I was tempted to. I honestly think the OP has undiagnosed Tourettes syndrom and should see their family doctor about getting a referral to a specialist.

You should investigate the history of psycho-therapy.

Anyone who knew the facts of how tragic and illogical that field has been historically and today, would never suggest even to the craziest person to go 'get help' aka 'tortured'.

Yeah, that guy says stuff we don't like, let's pump him full of dangerous medications that are barely understood and if he gets outta hand demanding freedom let's tie them up in a straight-jacket....


If you actually cared about someone's well being you would consider the 'get help' cliche as the least reasonable solution. Only in the most drastic and dangerous situations should actions like this be considered.

Not all the time just because some guy said things you don't think make sense.

What you describe is NOT psychotherapy. Psychotherapy is not psychiatry nor is it the year 1930. And, in 2011, rarely is a psychiatrist looking at straight-jackets and rubber rooms as a tool-- the guy has expressed no violence. Psycho-therapy would almost certainly be done by a licensed Psychologist (not Psychiatrist) and Psychologists do not practice medicine-- of any kind.

If delusions-- and that is a big IF-- there are gentle medicines which can have quick effect and confirm or deny a medical problem. Psycho-therapy does not get into that issue. No reason to cause a reasonable man to fear treatment which would help if the most obvious medical issue is at work-- about as easy and painless as can be imagined.

I have a very dear friend who leans a bit on her friends when she is without health insurance-- we don't mind. She just greeted me last week, so happy, because her new insurance kicks in, and she can get her prescription filled. She loves it when she is free from the delusions. Neat, too, is because she knows it (the medicine) works, she also has no doubts about what is real. My friend and the OP may not have the same (treatable) ailment, but you do the OP a disservice by characterizing a trip to his doctor, then a specialist, and then filling prescription as a shop of horrors.

reply to post by Frira


I admit I used it in the most general sense of the word terminology.

Psychotherapy is an English word of Greek origin, deriving from Ancient Greek psyche (ψυχή meaning "breath; spirit; soul") and therapia (θεραπεία "healing; medical treatment").

I employed it as an umbrella term based on it's etymological meanings. "Medial treatment for the Spirit".

This would also include psychiatry and psychology, etc. The entire gamut.
I apologize for not being more specific, perhaps next time I will list a more detailed set of terminology.

Also, please keep in mind that modern councilors or other professionals within the 'mental health' community always follow guidelines such as reporting their patient to authorities if they believe things are 'out of hand', like someone claiming they want to commit suicide.

If we cannot commit suicide legally than we are being tyrannized. Do I not own my body? The state has more rights to tell me what I do with my body than I do? It's authoritarianism and slavery when you really boil it down. We are "Human Resources".

Why Aliens? Why not demons, or fairies or what ever...


My question is really to question why anything? If it is a mental thing then it is about 100% chance that it is all in your head no matter how real it seems, so maybe the best course is to come at it with that frame of mind to tackle the issue at hand. Remember reality is only what our brains decide what it is and if you have an abnormality then your brain can easily make anything seem real.

One question, do you have and physical evidence to support it, so that you can rule out a purely mental condition?

Originally posted by muzzleflash
reply to post by Frira

 

I admit I used it in the most general sense of the word terminology.

Psychotherapy is an English word of Greek origin, deriving from Ancient Greek psyche (ψυχή meaning "breath; spirit; soul") and therapia (θεραπεία "healing; medical treatment").

I employed it as an umbrella term based on it's etymological meanings. "Medial treatment for the Spirit".

This would also include psychiatry and psychology, etc. The entire gamut.
I apologize for not being more specific, perhaps next time I will list a more detailed set of terminology.

Also, please keep in mind that modern councilors or other professionals within the 'mental health' community always follow guidelines such as reporting their patient to authorities if they believe things are 'out of hand', like someone claiming they want to commit suicide.

If we cannot commit suicide legally than we are being tyrannized. Do I not own my body? The state has more rights to tell me what I do with my body than I do? It's authoritarianism and slavery when you really boil it down. We are "Human Resources".

Then why did you bring it up?

The OP suggested no suicidal tendencies-- and as much as I would like to get this life with over with, I have and will again, if necessary, intervene when another attempts suicide-- and with the best of reason on my side.

You have created a nebulous post which has no purpose on this thread-- does not address the OP, but with alarmist words counseled anyway.

I said it the first time at the very beginning of this thread.
I said it a second time.
I'll say it a third time.

Tourettes

Regardless of what the symptoms are, start with the simplest, most mundane and easy way to check things out.
Go see your doctor.
Follow the recommendations of the doctor.

Having personal experience with friends that suffer from Tourettes, I'm pretty confident after seeing a physician, you'll have a fairly certain diagnosis of Tourettes, and thus soon be on your way to recovery.

Originally posted by Human4life
reply to post by MegaCurious

 

what is the way out?

God is the way out, follow the teachings of Yeshua and don't look back, forget the ignorant from rebellious nations that have rebelled against Yahweh.

I have stories as well, perhaps more sinister than what yours is and I never gave up in my lord and today I'm telling you the way out. Thats up to you ofcourse and how serious you are about them living you alone.

Those are my two cents.

Jew god believes in aliens? Neat.

I truly have no understanding of your problem since this has never happened to me, but I do have some questions...

Have you lived in the same home during all of these "attacks"?

Are you sensitive to other unrelated phenomena?

Is the area in which you live subject to electromagnetic anomalies?

This is just a start, but perhaps you see where I'm going with this. Sometimes it's easier to get to the bottom of things by ruling out the obvious. I sincerely wish you well with this, and hope you find an answer. I also agree with those who are steering you toward a religious solution. Many, many times my faith has overcome truly difficult obstacles including something similar to what you describe.

In 1985, I hallucinated 24/7 for a period of six months for no apparent reason. If you even remotely think this sounds crazy, you should have lived it! Actually, I don't wish that on anyone, but I do know for a fact that these things happen. I lost 35 pounds during that time, my job, and confidence in my ability to make sound decisions. I couldn't even locate scriptures I knew well in the Bible because of the anxiety attacks. My father told me to just open the Bible to any page and start reading, which I did; it helped some. Were it not for my late wife being the strong person she was, I'm not sure I could have lived through it. The doctor had no idea: he told me I had a rare condition that was causing my insides to age faster than my outside appearance, and that at the age of 25, I had the circulatory and respiratory systems of a 50 year old. He then told me I would probably die before I reached the age of 30.

Boy, that made things better! Anyway, I resigned myself to avid prayer, and decided to have faith in that prayer regardless. Things improved shortly, and the hallucinations stopped. I'm currently 51, and in very good health. I haven't returned to see a doctor since that time (26 years). I continue to live by faith, and I recommend it to everyone I know.