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HAH!!!!! Former CIA operative totally doubts that Iran is behind "terrorist plot" reported by FBI.

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posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem
WAR should be used as the ONLY last resort.


cut false flags into pieces
war is their last resort...




posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 12:35 PM
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You should do some thinking. 17 of the last 20 foiled terror plots were all constructed by FBI undercover agents finding disgruntled Muslim men and pushing them into conducting acts of terror. The remaining 3 plots were stopped by citizens, but there's enough evidence showing FBI under cover involvement.

www.youtube.com...

Hell, the World Trade Center bombing in 93 - the main informant and bomb maker was, you guessed it, a FBI asset who was poked and prodded into building the bomb and giving it to the bomber.

www.youtube.com...

If you dig deep enough, most terror plots over the last several decades have vast connections to the US Government and the FBI. They are manufactured plots.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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Also on Morning Edition, Karim Sadjadpour, an expert on Iran and the Middle East with the Carnegie Endowment said there are other oddities about the scheme.


When Iran has been involved in assassinations in recent years, he said, they've happened in "places where they know they can get away with it," including Europe and South America. And the plots have never involved "working with a non-Muslim proxy," such as a killer from a Mexican drug cartel.



I think using the Mexican drug cartel was a way to try and throw us off.

An article I posted earlier in the thread regarding the connection between Hezbollah/Mexican Drug Cartel says that more and more Mexican drug cartel members are showing up in southwestern U.S. prisons with tattoos written in Farsi.


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posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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I don't think we need a CIA operative to doubt it, we all doubt it. HELL, even some of the mainstream media is doubting it which is amazing.

No one's believing this BS story.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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www.examiner.com...

www1.kristv.com...

Gee, what a shock. The intel about this plot came from a paid intelligence source.

This plot follows all the others; paid intelligence source finds a drug using, heavy drinking, used car salesman Muslim and pumps him up with delusions of assassinating an ambassador and blowing up and embassy. I wonder how much coke they gave Arbabsiar or how many times they took him to the nudy bar.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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www.nytimes.com...

Even the New York times isn't buying this garbage!!!

Lets keep things in perspective: the US government is claiming a drug using drunkard, who's had strings in the US for 30 years, was given orders from the top of the Iranian government to blow up an embassy. If the US government doesn't come up with some SERIOUS legitimate evidence of an Iranian connection, than this plot is totally bogus, especially since a paid intelligence source is the fundamental source for the plot.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:04 PM
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posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by Drew99GT
reply to post by joshter
 



You should do some thinking. 17 of the last 20 foiled terror plots were all constructed by FBI undercover agents finding disgruntled Muslim men and pushing them into conducting acts of terror. The remaining 3 plots were stopped by citizens, but there's enough evidence showing FBI under cover involvement.

www.youtube.com...

Hell, the World Trade Center bombing in 93 - the main informant and bomb maker was, you guessed it, a FBI asset who was poked and prodded into building the bomb and giving it to the bomber.

www.youtube.com...

If you dig deep enough, most terror plots over the last several decades have vast connections to the US Government and the FBI. They are manufactured plots.



Wow! The first video was some really convincing evidence! I would think as a former New Jersey Supreme Court Justice that Napolitano would definitely have some insight into the shenanigans of our government.

I always knew that factions of our government were corrupt, and I'm usually the first one to point something out, but I never would have thought that 17 out of the last 20 foiled plots were proven to be those of the FBI.

Now I can't wait to see where all of this leads!



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:11 PM
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That's some interesting stuff... but unless you're saying that our government is behind this attack and not Iran then I don't see the connection between the two.

reply to post by SeventhSeal
 


You're some of the foolish that I was talking about. You just automatically disbelieve what our intelligence agency is stating without any proof to believe otherwise.


The video on the first page of this thread with the military guy had it right, the government should release some of their evidence. To blatantly believe anything is stupid, but right now I have no reason not to believe them. Especially after reading the original article. It's not too hard to believe that Iran went through the mexican cartel as a proxy to sneak across our border and cause some destruction. I'd like to read their proof on the matter though instead of being one of the "Sheeple" and accusing our government of lying.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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Scary indeed. Sounds like the beginning of WMD hunt where none exists. A prelude to war, you bet. Cooked by who? Same folks that brought us Iraq 2, Afganastan, and more we never heard of. Wreaks of the same old song and dance but this one may cost heavily. Iran can nuke us. Iran can use bio-chem.

Question is can we really afford the dollars for this campaign, the US will surely stand alone on this one. I for one am truly tired of this whole game the elite are playing. How much longer will it go on? When will they think their plan has been successful?

Too many questions, too convenient, just too much.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by xaphoo1971
I can see your point but I have to admit that i don't trust the government these days and before the news report finished I was wondering pretty much the same thing this cia guy is saying and I'm not selling a book but then again maybe I been listening to Alex Jones to much


So do you trust the Iranian Government? Basically one Government is lying and one is not.... you choose


I read a couple years ago that there's this whole thing about Iran and the Hidden Imam, it was a Theosophical piece, about how the Hidden Imam thing was black magic and something about Ahmadinejad thinking he was the Hidden Imam. I wish I could find it again. I think he is deeply tied in to the Secret Society stuff and the conspiracy in general.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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Double post.
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posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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Please do not give them any ideas on Venezuela. lol



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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Never think that the lemmings of the world won't see through it. More seem awake now, but lemmings most still are and as they say in the alphabet agency world "whether the evidence exists or not, we will find it"



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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I watched your CBN (Zionist) News clip but you failed to address any of my points about Islam And the Shiite belief of the coming Imam. It is clear to me that you know nothing of Islam and are fed your knowledge from Hollywood, History channel and MSM. I am a Christian open to the ways of other religeons. I feel for you..
We all need to realize that there is but one God and no Governments of the world can change that.

PEACE,
RK



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by Rigel Kent
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I watched your CBN (Zionist) News clip but you failed to address any of my points about Islam And the Shiite belief of the coming Imam. It is clear to me that you know nothing of Islam and are fed your knowledge from Hollywood, History channel and MSM. I am a Christian open to the ways of other religeons. I feel for you..
We all need to realize that there is but one God and no Governments of the world can change that.

PEACE,
RK


so are you open to the coming of the 12th Imam who would be (according to Iran) the savior of mankind and bring Islam to the world?


Today, Islamic nations look for a leader, one that will unite and enforce Islam to fulfill its destiny. Islam’s leaders want a caliphate starting in the Middle East i.e. Iraq (Babylon or Jerusalem?). By their uniting they can then challenge the western civilization that has influenced the world contrary to their religion. Reading the Qur'an reinforces their ideology Sura 3:85 "And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.”


In a speech on November 16th 2006, President Ahmadinejad of Iran spoke of his belief in the return of the Twelfth Imam: “Our revolution’s main mission is to pave the way for the reappearance of the 12th Imam, the Mahdi,’ Ahmadinejad said in a speech to ‘Friday Prayers’ leaders from across the country.

www.letusreason.org...


This is not the original article I was looking for because the Theosophical piece was written from a deeper esoteric position.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Brotherman
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


Hey Monica is tempting look at what what mr Bill is married to anyways, for bill it wasnt as easy as chalking it up to a wild night in vegas with the boys he had to do something drastic,, not everyone is married to the devil (end sarcasm)


Quality post, however you must realize that (besides the odd wayward blow job) international coke dealers stay together through thick and thin........ S for you.

PEACE,
RK



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by dragonseeker
This "plot" is a fairy tale. AG Holder is about to go down for "fast and furious" and someone at justice cooked this # up as a diversion, or, mossad is doing their whole "lets trick america into attacking iran" deal. I mean, this story is like a rejected story idea for a james bond film. pathetic, really..
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This makes sense to me, sounds like the rest of the tricks up the sleeves of the 44th.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by Drew99GT
www.presstv.ir...


I think this comment could sum it up...

"Press TV: After the news of the alleged assassination plot broke out, the Pentagon said this needs a diplomatic and not a military response and on the other hand, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Iran needs to be more isolated. In particular, what do you think of chances of US attacking Iran?

Giraldi: I think they are very low if the United States is the one making the decision, but if Israel orders to stage an attack, I think it is inevitable the United States would get drawn in.

But I think there is something everybody is missing here. Leon Panetta was in Israel last week and I think it is generally accepted that Panetta warned the Israelis that the Obama administration does not want Israel to unilaterally attack Iran. Every time the Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense goes to Israel and gives them a warning about something, you usually see within a few days something happening to basically tell the Israelis, “But we are still on your side.”

I would rather suspect the timing of this whole thing is going back to the Israelis to make a case to put more pressure on Iran. I think that is the quid pro quo that we are seeing here, “Do not attack Iran, but we are going to put more pressure on them and we have this story in the pipeline that will enable us to do that.”

I am just speculating on that. I have no specific information but I think it is something worth thinking about, because you see this pattern repeated over and over again. Certainly the Israelis, of all the players in this thing that we are talking about, are the only ones that really have a strong desire to go to war with Iran. I do not think anyone else, even the United States, has any serious desire in that direction. So I think this is something we should be thinking about. "



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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Pretty scary article
www.infowars.com...



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