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reply posted on 13-10-2011 @ 12:45 AM by The Old American
Originally posted by Buddha1098
reply to
post by OldCorp



Christian, Gun-loving and conservative. You're as much as a stereotype as those Granola eating hippies like me just on the opposite end of things.

Why are your opinions any more valid than those who hold the opposite view?


His opinion is based on constitutional law, liberty, and the absolute right of self defense and defense of others.
Your opinion is based on emotion, control of the populace, and submission to fascism.

Thinking people who believe in freedom will agree with him.

/TOA


reply posted on 13-10-2011 @ 12:41 PM by Buddha1098
reply to post by The Old American



How do you know what my opinion is based on? I don't think people should carry weapons, because a simple argument can turn into a shooting very quickly.

I'm 6'1 230 lbs and a brazilian jiu-jitsu practitioner. I believe in self defence, I believe in liberty which I why I have no problem with gun ownership. The problem is when someone rear ends me in my car and i get out and LOOK intimidating and I get shot in the face trying to talk to person because they feel threatened.

Guns aren't dangerous when used by strong, intelligent people. Not all gun owners are strong and intelligent. I'd rather see strong intelligent people be limited in where they can take their guns then allow the freedom of the weak and dull to carry guns everywhere.



reply posted on 13-10-2011 @ 01:53 PM by Tripnman
reply to post by Buddha1098


You make a valid point, but I would counter that the "weak and dull" do carry their guns everywhere - the criminals that are out to do no good to begin with. Not everyone has the self-discipline and the time or training to defend themselves in hand to hand combat. I personally feel safer when the strong of mind have the option to defend themselves when a situation arises. To get a CCW permit around here, you have to pass 16 hours of training and then re-certify with four more hours every two years - for each permitted weapon. The weak minded won't get through that and the training drills into you what acceptable levels of force mean. A fender bender does not qualify as a life-threatening situation.


reply posted on 15-10-2011 @ 07:07 AM by gamesmaster63
Originally posted by Buddha1098
reply to
post by OldCorp



Christian, Gun-loving and conservative. You're as much as a stereotype as those Granola eating hippies like me just on the opposite end of things.

Why are your opinions any more valid than those who hold the opposite view?


You are welcome to hold the opposite view, but his isn't opinion.

He is supported by the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, and him stating his view is gauranteed by the First Amendment, the same as it gaurantees you stating yours.
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reply posted on 19-10-2011 @ 01:20 PM by randyvs
reply to post by OldCorp



Do we need any more proof that Jerry Brown is a moron? Or that the people of California (the patchouli-loving, kumbaya-singing, granola heads of California) are equally retarded


Ouuuuch! I resemble that remark.
One of these days they're gonna go to far. And everyone who owns a gun will be a criminal. Instantly.
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