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Mass Graves Discovered at Closed Mohawk Institute Residential School

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posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by wayouttheredude
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You are pretty innocent if you believe that the media will be all over a story that hurts the church and state in any way. I am a bit less innocent on this issue. I know that the media will not cover a story that is damning to church and state.


Actually you are very misinformed. The stories of alleged abuse (a lot of which of course is absolutely true) have run all over the media - what you are referring to is a story with no facts whatsoever - not one, or please show it and testimonies from people who again have nothing but a story is not a fact anymore than me saying I just bumped into bigfoot on the way to the shop.

Put up or shut up - where is any evidence? Any.




posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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These are the only locations of the Queens visit to Canada in 1964 I can find on the web.

1964 Royal Visit
Date: October 5 to 13, 1964
Accompanied by the Duke of Edinburgh
Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip Visited Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Quebec City, Quebec and Ottawa, Ontario to attend the commemoration of the three major conferences that led up to Canadian Confederation in 1867.



I can not find anywhere mentioned British Columbia for that year (1964).

I could be corrected.




posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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For the sake of truth I should state that I am someone who's ancestors were native to the area now called Canada. My great grandmother was a daughter of Makoyepuk Wolf-Child then Chief of the Kainai (blood) tribe. Many of my cousins died in schools like these. It breaks my heart to watch these documentaries but the truth must be faced if ever a people are to heal from the horrors and injustice brought to them.


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posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by wayouttheredude
reply to post by dizzie56
 


You are pretty innocent if you believe that the media will be all over a story that hurts the church and state in any way. I am a bit less innocent on this issue. I know that the media will not cover a story that is damning to church and state.


Innocent? The media wont cover a story that hurts the church? Really? Say that sentence over and over and over again before you type it again please. Any time the Catholic church does something wrong the media is all over it. Also, the Catholic church has nothing to do with the issue as it was run by England's monarchy, which also happens to be the head of the Anglican Church....not the pope. Until I see it somewhere else and not just the examiner (a tabloid I might add which are obviously always true), I wont believe it.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by wayouttheredude
reply to post by dizzie56
 


You are pretty innocent if you believe that the media will be all over a story that hurts the church and state in any way. I am a bit less innocent on this issue. I know that the media will not cover a story that is damning to church and state.


You are obviously ill informed if you have not noticed thousands of stories all across the MSM about the RCC's clerics abusing kids that have run worldwide over the last few years.

Or stories of UK soldiers abusing prisoners in recent wars, or of anglican church institutions supporting the forced removal of aboriginal children in Australia, or in supporting slavery, or of UK Govt institutions doing likewise.

Or of various scandals affecting the British royal family. For example did you miss the bit about the mother of a future King shagging a moslem businessman a few years ago??


Where on earth have you been? Have you even been on earth??



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posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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I find it interesting that a drug cartel that makes millions if not billions a year would agree to do an assassination for a Middle Eastern Government for $100,000. Hell they make more than that smuggling a kilo across the US-Mexican Border. This has all the tell tale sign of being a false flag or the more likely a "Wag the Dog" situation to divert attention from "Operation Fast and Furious". What better way to avoid a scandal than with a war.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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I haven't watched the video but will. I wasn't saying something awful didn't happen. Its very possible it did.
People were quoting articles talking about the tribunal like it was something official when it obviously isn't.
This is misleading.
I'm all for getting to the bottom of this and prosecuting any people responsible.
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posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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I think you posted this to the wrong thread.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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That is pretty much UK news. In the US the press does not much cover the genocide of the native Americans by the church and state. It is just not covered very much. That is what I am talking about not some who screwed who crap from the UK that is the easy fun stuff to cover. Institutional genocide by still living culpable parties not so much.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 04:06 PM
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Just the point I was going to make.
The Angelican Church is not under the control of the Vatican.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 04:07 PM
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You haven't seen anything in the USA about the RCC's abuse cases??

you dont' see anything in the USA about Govt agencies screwing up - like the FDA's "gun running" recently?? Or FannyMae & Freddy Mac screwing up??


honestly??



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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Pope Paul VI was the pope in the 70's. I remember when he came to NY !



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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Does anyone on here seriously think that the Queen of England goes about murdering children in conjunction with the Church - I mean seriously?




All bow the the great Queen!


As I mentioned in a previous post. The Royals have known about this ever since it has happened. As soon as the British took over Canada they continued treating the Natives the way the French did. I know Canadian history is not very well known in England. But I assure you that the go ahead for these actions originated from the Crown and the Church, including your current beloved Queen.

These Monarchs that you think can do no harm are not very nice people. I am not here to slander innocent people, but they are not innocent.

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posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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you dont' see anything in the USA about Govt agencies screwing up - like the FDA's "gun running" recently?? Or FannyMae & Freddy Mac screwing up??



Government screwups are fair game for the media. When you try and write about institutional genocide of native people being carried out by the church and state it is another matter altogether. The state and the church practice a kind of delegitimization of their enemies and that scares the crap out of journalist and any would be whistle blowers.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by dainoyfb
God says "kill anybody who is not like you." Of course this is not contradictory to the fact that God created everyone and loves them equally.

Religions based on fables are awesome!!


I don't like your god. He sounds like a real asshole. I understand he speaks to you in YOUR head, but you need to tell him to never speak to me. If he speaks to me, I will kill him...

... because he is someone not like me.


My God doesn't love everyone equally. As a matter of fact, he says your god is a loser.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 04:22 PM
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And just one other item that makes this story suspect. There is no person known as Pope Ratzinger. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger is now know as Bope Bennidict. They refer to the Queen as Elizabeth of Widsor. (she is not know by that name. ) She is Elizabeth Windsor or Queen Elizabeth.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by Corruption Exposed

As soon as the British took over Canada they continued treating the Natives the way the French did.


The British didn't take over Canada. They took over New France. New France became the Province of Quebec. There wre existing British colonies elsewhere in the area covered by modern Canada already.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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I have watched the film and looked at all the clips and at first i was taken right in by it all but with a lot of after thought i am seriously left wondering how much is real fact of this story and how much is misinterpretation of the near supposed facts and although people are genuinely stressed and have many questions un answered of which i have no doubt but as people have said on here, there is no actual physical evidence other than some people that were 5-6 years old at the time verbally telling him what they saw and they felt. He goes on to mention about rituals and satanic things in cellars but when pushed, it was an american native seer that told him this and not an eye witness or anything. Now don't get me wrong i have nothing against seers or the like but im sorry it just wont stand as evidence in a court of law. He also says about the Queen hand picking 10 kids to be erm removed, there is so many variables you could add that this is total rubbish. I did notice as well on his radio interviews whenever he was asked a direct question he never answered directly back he just went all round the houses and basically never answered. Some of the issues he brought up and so called proof could be interpreted in more ways than one depending which side of the fence you are on.

One of the things i am curious about though as well is the choice of headlines they use....Like mass mohawk children grave found. No one is disputing that the children never died or that they wasn't buried near the school. Something has to be lost to be found, they knew they were buried there.

To be honest im not sure what to believe any more as this story was turning into how the British monarchy wanted to eliminate all the north American natives for their own gains period.

At the End of the day show me the evidence and then you can take the Queen to court, but boy you better be right or your gonna have one pissed off nation on your arse.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed

As soon as the British took over Canada they continued treating the Natives the way the French did.


The British didn't take over Canada. They took over New France. New France became the Province of Quebec. There wre existing British colonies elsewhere in the area covered by modern Canada already.


Perhaps you should practice your spelling/typing before you give geography/history lessons


You know what I meant



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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I see that you took out your location as the UK which was in your profile earlier. Is there a reason for that? Perhaps you are ashamed of what your government and church may have done to these native people and no longer wish to be directly associated?




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