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OWS has the right to challenge this corrupt system.

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posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 06:28 PM
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People in free societies are allowed to protest and challenge things that they disagree with.
Who are you to tell me that I have to accept any scheme or rule that the banks and their friends
concoct? Freedom does not mean that I am free to take it with a smile, those who keep alluding to
that are free to kiss my behind.

My government isn't a tool to better their profit margins, their legal standing and their long term
growth strategy.The American government, its politicians, bureaucrats and policies are not there
to be used and abused by those who can afford to do so. Our politicians should not take money
for their campaigns, that all but require them to create laws that blatantly disregard the well being
of Americans and the American economy as a whole.

I refuse to believe that freedom means that I have to take this year after year. I pay my bills,
I work hard and I pay my taxes, yet my government and its handlers work tirelessly to create
a system that takes more and more of my money and pays people less to do more and more
work. I cannot say that I fully understand why or how this achieved, but only a fool will say that
everything is right with this picture. I think 2008 was a symptom of a problem that has yet to be
addressed and I think the Banks and the corporations who have profited from our misery, at the
very least, deserve some scrutiny and shame.

We have the right to challenge this corrupt system!

We do not have to explain ourselves, it does not have to fit into someone else's agenda, or meet
their standards, they are free to protest too. Maybe those same people can get out there and use
their efforts, by helping to create the change they desire, instead of disparaging a whole group of
people who are only exercising their god given right to protest the world they have to endure.
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posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by mastahunta
People in free societies are allowed to protest and challenge things that they disagree with.

That's fine, but to protest against job creators while carrying an iPhone and designer jeans is just plain stupid!
Modern day hippies, just less intelligent


Originally posted by mastahunta
Who are you to tell me that I have to accept any scheme or rule that the banks and their friends
concoct?

You know what will most likely come out of this?
1) Violence
2) More Socialism

Who are the friends of the banks?
They are in the white house that's where, go protest there!
Protest at those that accept lobby money, not job creators

I'm not defending no accountability in big corporations
If you see my thread history you will agree with me

But go protest where it matters! At the socialist money loving current white house!


Originally posted by mastahunta
Freedom does not mean that I am free to take it with a smile, those who keep alluding to
that are free to kiss my behind.

Do not demotivate innovation and hard work
If someone innovates, like steve jobs for instance, they should get rich.
Isn't that the american dream?


Originally posted by mastahunta
My government isn't a tool to better their profit margins, their legal standing and their long term
growth strategy.The American government, its politicians, bureaucrats and policies are not there
to be used and abused by those who can afford to do so. Our politicians should not take money
for their campaigns, that all but require them to create laws that blatantly disregard the well being
of Americans and the American economy as a whole.

You have my support, and go Occupy the White House!
Do NOT re-elect Obama
These crooks that you speak of are all in his pockets



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 06:38 PM
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No, they don't. Because they're creating an eye-sore, and my right to not have to look at unpleasant things is more important than their right to peaceful assembly.

Their right to peaceful assembly is also null and void because of the risk that it could turn violent; their rights end where mine begin, and I have a right to be safe from an imaginary, as-yet-to-happen scenario. Still, there's that risk!

They're all just a bunch of lazy, good-for-nothings that have entitlement issues. After all, a lot of what they're mad about is that they can't find a job so that they can do an honest day's work and pay their debts and support their families. The nerve at being angry that certain policies ultimately cause a hindrance to them being functioning, responsible citizens!



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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I've been forced to oppose this OWS joke, it's become a horrible case of false martyrdom, it all just seems like they're trying to get hit so they can scream brutality. It's become a joke with no real leaders and a rabble of cry babies.



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by mastahunta
People in free societies are allowed to protest and challenge things that they disagree with.


That's fine, but to protest against job creators while carrying an iPhone and designer jeans is just plain stupid!



It is silly, but seeing that you cannot get access to clothing or technology without dealing with the corporate monopolies, it's something that I can look past.

Now, as far as these "job creators" go...are you saying that you are in support of corporations that ship jobs overseas? Because that's what they have done.



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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And yes, the protesters have every right to voice their anger, this system is FUBAR'd.

What I question is the financial backing of the movement's organizers.

I smell bad money. I smell CIA spooks.



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave
Now, as far as these "job creators" go...are you saying that you are in support of corporations that ship jobs overseas? Because that's what they have done.

Look at the root of the problem first
why are they going overseas?

Because of too much regulations
Did you hear what happened to Gibson Guitars for example?

They employ 2500+ americans but the wood they use for their guitars they buy it from India.
Obama's squad team raided the company saying this wood violates indian labor laws
So if they want to continue to make guitars then they have to let India do the wood finishing
That would get rid of american jobs

Should I go into Sarbanes Oxley?



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:05 PM
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oh i get it they have a right to protest and speak their opinions

but no one else has aint that one rich people are free to speak there mind and people are free to disagree with it.

any problems with that whatsoever makes them hypocrites.

freedom of speech for all doesnt work some of the time half the time BUT ALL THE TIME

thems the breaks



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:06 PM
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How are people supposed to stay in contact? Snail mail? UPS? FedEx? Public Access TV? Explain to me this!

To attack people for using Apple, Sony, Microsoft products to connect to the web is just plain idiotic and dumb and makes your case that much weaker!

Find me 100,000 jobs that's been created, oh how could I forget, that's 100,000 jobs that were taken away from Americans and sent overseas!
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posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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No special interests, no corporate dollars are welcomed, we do not want to aide the enemy.



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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The root of the problem. I agree.

These companies financed lobbyists, who then lobbied, or bribed, the government into making treasonous free trade deals, which has caused this country to bleed millions of jobs.

The job creators are doing just that, creating jobs for people who can afford to be paid with piss. People that do not live here.

As far as regulations, you need some sensible and fair regulation in place otherwise we end up with a bunch of coke addicts in suits running wild, which is what happened once Clinton, Frank, and the rest of the scum did away with the GS-Act. But I am not in favor of unnecessary regulation that hinders businesses from creating jobs here.




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posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by mastahunta
People in free societies are allowed to protest and challenge things that they disagree with.

That's fine, but to protest against job creators while carrying an iPhone and designer jeans is just plain stupid!
Modern day hippies, just less intelligent


Does political affiliation stop Tea Party members from seeing movies?


Which radio host made that line of attack popular?



You know what will most likely come out of this?
1) Violence
2) More Socialism



Or how about a national dialogue that brings about real discussion and new regulations
that prevent companies and banks from defrauding America like they did several years ago.
How about re instating the regulation that was there before, which worked for over half a
century?



Who are the friends of the banks?
They are in the white house that's where, go protest there!
Protest at those that accept lobby money, not job creators


They should protest the White house, the congress, the fed, THE BANKS and K Street too.



I'm not defending no accountability in big corporations
If you see my thread history you will agree with me


But you have made an attempt to character assassinate those who oppose the
practices of big corporations.Why will big corporations be accountable if nobody
is calling for accountability? You are not out there...



But go protest where it matters! At the socialist money loving current white house!


That might be a great idea, but you might not like the response, you might feel real
silly if this guy starts doing right by the people...



Do not demotivate innovation and hard work
If someone innovates, like steve jobs for instance, they should get rich.
Isn't that the american dream?


I didn't say I was against the american dream, your prejudice assumes I am against it.



You have my support, and go Occupy the White House!
Do NOT re-elect Obama
These crooks that you speak of are all in his pockets


That might be the best idea ever



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Look at the root of the problem first
why are they going overseas?


They are going over seas because they can get 30 workers for the price of one.
That is cause #1



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by AnIntellectualRedneck
No, they don't. Because they're creating an eye-sore, and my right to not have to look at unpleasant things is more important than their right to peaceful assembly.

Their right to peaceful assembly is also null and void because of the risk that it could turn violent; their rights end where mine begin, and I have a right to be safe from an imaginary, as-yet-to-happen scenario. Still, there's that risk!

They're all just a bunch of lazy, good-for-nothings that have entitlement issues. After all, a lot of what they're mad about is that they can't find a job so that they can do an honest day's work and pay their debts and support their families. The nerve at being angry that certain policies ultimately cause a hindrance to them being functioning, responsible citizens!


Is this serious?



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by AnIntellectualRedneck
No, they don't. Because they're creating an eye-sore, and my right to not have to look at unpleasant things is more important than their right to peaceful assembly.

Their right to peaceful assembly is also null and void because of the risk that it could turn violent; their rights end where mine begin, and I have a right to be safe from an imaginary, as-yet-to-happen scenario. Still, there's that risk!

They're all just a bunch of lazy, good-for-nothings that have entitlement issues. After all, a lot of what they're mad about is that they can't find a job so that they can do an honest day's work and pay their debts and support their families. The nerve at being angry that certain policies ultimately cause a hindrance to them being functioning, responsible citizens!


Oh you must be a High Class Elite redneck huh?

Those pee ons are too [insert adjective here] to be grated constitutional consideration.

Exactly an attitude that champions other things we probably shouldn't discuss here...



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by mastahunta
They are going over seas because they can get 30 workers for the price of one.
That is cause #1

Instead of protesting how about buying only american?
Even Gandhi was like "Burn all foreign brand products, throw your foreign branded wardrobe into the fires"
He wasn't protesting at business owners

Simple, buy american and less regulation
See... so simple!



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
oh i get it they have a right to protest and speak their opinions


The rich can protest all they want, they are free to do it, although they are better off picking up
the phone and calling the guy they got elected into office. Or I guess they can go to an OWS
event, however thirty seven people protesting against such a large group would be rather
pointless.



but no one else has aint that one rich people are free to speak there mind and people are free to disagree with it.


I don't know what this sentence means



any problems with that whatsoever makes them hypocrites.


I have no problem with allowing anyone to protest



freedom of speech for all doesnt work some of the time half the time BUT ALL THE TIME

thems the breaks


I agree, unless the speech is bought with money and is used to violate the principle
of the nation.



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by mastahunta
They are going over seas because they can get 30 workers for the price of one.
That is cause #1

Instead of protesting how about buying only american?
Even Gandhi was like "Burn all foreign brand products, throw your foreign branded wardrobe into the fires"
He wasn't protesting at business owners

Simple, buy american and less regulation
See... so simple!


I would love to incorporate that idea



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by mastahunta
Does political affiliation stop Tea Party members from seeing movies?


Which radio host made that line of attack popular?

I don't know but this is not a partisan argument that I had made despite how it may look


Originally posted by mastahunta
Or how about a national dialogue that brings about real discussion and new regulations
that prevent companies and banks from defrauding America like they did several years ago.
How about re instating the regulation that was there before, which worked for over half a
century?

How about if an anchorman goes to one of these OWS rallies less than 10% of them would be able to debate what you are suggesting?


Originally posted by mastahunta
But you have made an attempt to character assassinate those who oppose the
practices of big corporations.Why will big corporations be accountable if nobody
is calling for accountability? You are not out there...

Accountability!
Correct!
But that's first and foremost in Congress, Senate and more than anything the white house
Wall Street comes wayyyy after

What's happening now is "Hey let's pour water and sand on the fire that is spreading FAST, but pay no attention to the crazy guys in the suits with the flame throwers"



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by mastahunta
People in free societies are allowed to protest and challenge things that they disagree with.


That's fine, but to protest against job creators while carrying an iPhone and designer jeans is just plain stupid!



It is silly, but seeing that you cannot get access to clothing or technology without dealing with the corporate monopolies, it's something that I can look past.

Now, as far as these "job creators" go...are you saying that you are in support of corporations that ship jobs overseas? Because that's what they have done.


Yeah and we should be happy with the happy meal jobs left at Mcdonald's, Burger King or the local grocery store. We don't need manufacturing or high tech jobs that America was known for and excelled at. Who cares that half of the stuff we import falls apart after a few uses, the stuff is so cheap we'll just go out and buy another one.


America needs to rebuild it's manufacturing industry with NEW PRODUCTS! Things that are not out on the market yet. The world has enough toasters and fridges however they are needed, how about all the technology that has been shelved by TPTB for being too radical like free energy generators or products powered by free energy generators? Imagine the market potential for wireless energy products like tesla's car or things like that. Whole new manufacturing sectors could emerge from technologies like those and the beauty of it is, No Competitors! The World is the limit, a win win situation if it weren't for TPTB.

There are so many things that could be done yet greed, corruption and disloyalty are the buzz words of the day unfortunately.



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