Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I am surprised at the the percentage of members thinking violence is necessary.

Nothing will change without violence, to be blunt. This country was established through violence, and its successor or successors will be established the same way.

When the "let them eat cake" moment arrives, and people realize that holding a sign while being beaten by pig sticks isn't getting anything done, you'll see what happens in the streets of this country.

I grew up in a rough area, so violence is nothing new to me. For some folks who have had sheltered lives, it will be quite sobering to see how barbaric things can get when you push people into a corner.

Good survey!
The part of it that struck my eye was the part of the survey that stated:

“I believe that violence, even if resulting in injury or even tragic deaths, is a necessary component of protest given the severity of the related issues at the core of the protests”

11% of ATS Members Strongly Agree with that statement.
VS.
39% of Guests Strongly Agree with that statement.

Just who are these Guests?

Why did they come here, to an ATS Survey, and say that they believe people should get violent to get results?

I think that was an attempt to make this ATS Poll look bad on us ATSer’s.

Also, I would bet that they didn’t know the results would be into Member/Guests categories.

I wonder how many of those Guests actually will ever see or even care about the results of this survey?

Are you guys pickin’ up what I’m puttin’ down?

Originally posted by neo96
yeah as expected and you go back in the way back machine to the ron paul poll you would have never guessed this outcome.

over 20 thousand "guests" so what im gonna do is subtract that from the real members here.

edit on 11-10-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

...and then you realize there's still overwhelming support, and for good reason

Where is the questions:

Is this happening at the right time?

Should this have happened four years ago?

Were we too blinded by the waving flag to create a movement under Bush?

Is this the right movement under Obama's administration? And why.

Thanks ATS for offering this poll and sharing the results. I partook.

One of the interesting results was this one:

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

The disparities between answers from members and answers from guests is interesting. Especially the divisions in the strongly disagree and strongly agree. There was not a lot of him hawing on this one, judging by it's skinny middle.

My favorite questions were the I believe...questions. Ones like I believe the actions of Wall Street/Politicians/Special Interests have been one factor in this crisis....

Those questions and the answers help define what people think, at least in part, the problems are.

The question of where our 99 percent mouth wants our money to go, pictured above, is very interesting. That question helps define where the 99 percent want America's focus and America's resources to go. The strongly disagree above stands out and there is a difference in how members and guests responded.

I am one of the 99 percent. I haven't been to a protest....yet. For me these are not so much protests, but they are people walking and talking FOR something, not against. The 99 percent get what has caused this in general. They want to steer, more so than the 1 percent has made room for, where we go from here. We want things that begin with the slide above. We don't value our government's shock and awe wars with the same weight as providing for opportunity in this land. The opportunities in this country have dried up like the parched Texas soil.

There are things of value in our society which economically hold no value. If you can make things blow up in a sandy environment, or sink a three pointer, there are big bucks to be made. If you can support your community through volunteerism, raise honorable children and be an involved parent or help weave the fiber that makes a community strong, you have no value...economically speaking. Just what is it we are trying to build again here....a society that looks like what?

The system is, in so many places, inverted and totally focused on funneling hefty margins from the bottom workers to the top. I see the neglect of our people, and the hopelessness so many must endure. I see pride, wealth and strength being stolen through wanton disregard of another human being's innate value. I see people forced into bankruptcy because a family member becomes ill. I see jobs lost and what has taken a lifetime to build wear out and fall away because the ability to maintain it has disappeared. I see young people with no hope of finding work. I see sadness in what became of our We The People spirit...and we think it's time the one percent listens

I don't see this movement ending, at least in terms of demanding a restructuring and re-prioritizing of where America (we, the little people) think things need to be heading.

The 99 percent are talking or walking for something; not just against.

Thanks again for the poll. Lots of interesting results.

Peace.