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Originally posted by predator0187
I am very upset and unhappy that I was told I had to vaccinate my children just to prevent diseases that are not even prevalent in todays society.
Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
It would be interesting to see how many of the posters were vaccinated in their childhoods and did anyone have any problems with it ?
Originally posted by CaesaRodney
reply to post by Astrithr
Evidence this pal. Amish children dont have autism. Guess what else Amish children dont have.
Some people have alleged that certain Amish groups do not vaccinate and as a result do not have autism in their communities. Both of these assertions are false.
Originally posted by becomingaware
I've been a member of this site for a few years now, and I have seen threads on this subject in the past. Ever since that first thread, bolts of worry shot through my body, fearing that one day I would have to make that decision. Well now I do since I am about to be a first time father.
Now more than ever, I want to see some definitive proof that vaccinations are dangerous. Whether they cause autism or not. Also if you do choose to not vaccinate, what practices should you maintain to ensure your child stays healthy. That would be nice, that would prevent furrows of worry and paranoia to scour my face. I already worry about a million other things, I'm tired of the fear.
Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
Humans haven't need vaccines for thousands of years.
Certainly the millions who died of smallpox might disagree with you. As would those paralyzed by polio, those whose lives were stolen by German measles or Hib, those who could never have children because of mumps, those who died choking in their beds of flu-associated pneumonia, etc. ad nauseam. They might disagree with you, and their friends and family and colleagues. But for everyone else, you're right, they didn't need vaccines.
There's no reason humans should depend on synthetic chemicals to be healthy.
You don't need synthetic chemicals to make a vaccine. The first vaccination was basically pus straight from a cow (vacca) that had cowpox. Not very sanitary, and it was a stroke of luck that cowpox protected against smallpox. The synthetic chemicals are there to prevent secondary infections and to inactivate viruses when--as is usually the case--we don't have a less dangerous analogue like cowpox.
I would rather trust in the strength of my own immune system than their flimsy vaccines.
What good is your immune system against a disease it has never seen before? Not much. That's what vaccines do, they introduce your immune system to a weakened form of a pathogen so it recognizes the real thing if it ever comes along. It doesn't matter how "strong" your immune system is if it doesn't know what's attacking it. Ask anyone who has allergies--a strong but stupid immune system is more of a curse than a blessing.
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by antonia
So your basing this on your own diagnosis? are you a doctor?
Originally posted by Astrithr
My thoughts are...There is no evidence here.
This "study" is just a survey of 8018 people versus 17461 for the KIGGS study which included interviews and actual examinations. It's objective vs. subjective data, and, in my opinion, has no scientific credibility.
"Homeopathy is wholly capable of satisfying the therapeutic demands of this age better than any other system or school of medicine."-----Dr. Charles Menninger M.D., Founder Menninger Clinic
Nobody needs to be confused but EVERYBODY better be darn well frightened about taking ANY vaccine, under ANY circumstance, for ANY reason, at ANY time in their life."--Dr Duffy DC
"I have been on the staff of the New Jersey State Department of Health, and was in complete charge of the Monmouth County Cerebral Palsy Treatment Center. For the past three years I have been director of the Homestead Rehabilitation Institute (and still am as of this writing). My experiences have enabled me to observe from within the workings of official medicine. At first I could not believe what I saw...Were the truth concerning medical treatment and so-called prevention ever to leak out, the stench of it would obliterate the public confidence in the medical profession and put an end to the fantastic drug profits."---Dr. Milton Fried, D.C., 1956 (Poisoned Needle by McBean p192)
"What, then, is the value of vaccination? We firmly believe that it has no value at all. Its supposed value has been deduced from incorrect reasoning on the part of its advocates. Were small-pox as prevalent and as fatal now as in the eighteenth century, it might even be justifiable to have recourse to inoculation—either by variolous or vaccine matter. History, however, has demonstrated that towards the close of the last century, when Jenner introduced his system, small-pox had gradually died out, as we shall presently show. Even in Jenner's day small-pox had lost its virulence."---Dr. Charles T. Pearce, M.D. [1868 Book: Essay on Vaccination]