posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 09:22 AM
Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
Humans haven't need vaccines for thousands of years.
Certainly the millions who died of smallpox might disagree with you. As would those paralyzed by polio, those whose lives were stolen by German
measles or Hib, those who could never have children because of mumps, those who died choking in their beds of flu-associated pneumonia, etc. ad
nauseam. They might disagree with you, and their friends and family and colleagues. But for everyone else, you're right, they didn't need
There's no reason humans should depend on synthetic chemicals to be healthy.
You don't need synthetic chemicals to make a vaccine. The first vaccination was basically pus straight from a cow (vacca) that had cowpox. Not very
sanitary, and it was a stroke of luck that cowpox protected against smallpox. The synthetic chemicals are there to prevent secondary infections and to
inactivate viruses when--as is usually the case--we don't have a less dangerous analogue like cowpox.
I would rather trust in the strength of my own immune system than their flimsy vaccines.
What good is your immune system against a disease it has never seen before? Not much. That's what vaccines do, they introduce your immune system to a
weakened form of a pathogen so it recognizes the real thing if it ever comes along. It doesn't matter how "strong" your immune system is if it
doesn't know what's attacking it. Ask anyone who has allergies--a strong but stupid immune system is more of a curse than a blessing.
While you have a few valid points here, your over-the-top fear mongering is exactly what motivates parents to blindly let their kids be guinea pigs
and 'investments' for the few at the top.
While I agree that a few of the major vaccines (the original ones) have played an important role in getting rid of some very nasty diseases, most of
the current vaccinations that have been added over the last several years are nothing short of money-makers at the expense of our kids health.
I had the german measles, chicken pox and mumps. I was absolutely fine. I also have had the flu a few times and you know what? *GASP* I SURVIVED!
I didn't die 'choking in my bed' from it. Please.
Do people die from the above diseases that I had? Unofortunately, yes. But the date rate vs infection rate is extremely small. They die from
secondary infections due to a weakened immune system. Guess what? If you have a strong immune system your chances of that occuring are less. ANY
virus has the potential of going to your brain and causing a meningitis....(this is the risk associated with chicken pocks, measles, german measles,
etc....) but again, it is very rare.
My kids had all their 'base' vaccines. I would definately do it differently though if I could do it over again. My son almost died from his MMR.
Both my kids were 4 wks early and were unable to breast feed (meaning they didn't get the benefit of the nutrients that aid in strengthening the
immune system). They still pumped them up with the maximum doses at the earliest ages. The MMR is pushed at 15 months and nowadays these poor babies
get a cocktail of about 6 different pathogens at once! The US is one of the few countries that does NOT offer this vaccine broken down and spread
out. Wait until your child is 24 months, and demand seperate doses...it can be done, but has to be ordered.
I have NEVER had a flu shot. I even worked at a ER for years and refused. I never got the flu but all the nurses and docs around me that got the
vaccine all got ill. I also saw NUMEROUS adverse reactions to that thrown together swine flu vaccine (which I also refused)
BOTTOM LINE: it is a personal choice and should STAY THAT WAY. New this year in Washington state, I now have to get a doctors signature because I
chose not to do the MMR booster for my kids. I feel it an unecessary risk. It is my choice as a parent. Our rights are being taken away
however....and it scares the heck out of me.
Fear mongering is NOT how vaccine research and campaigns should be ran. It should be based on un-biased, scientific proof....which is there is NONE
of for the recent vaccines added to the lists.