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Financial Giants Put New York City Cops On Their Payroll

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posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 11:47 AM
I read the following article early this morning linked over at the site. It makes for very interesting, if not rather disturbing, reading and may explain the actions of some of those white shirted police seen trying to openly provoke a response from the OWS protesters. It's well worth a read.

Videos are springing up across the internet showing uniformed members of the New York Police Department in white shirts (as opposed to the typical NYPD blue uniforms) pepper spraying and brutalizing peaceful, nonthreatening protestors attempting to take part in the Occupy Wall Street marches. Corporate media are reporting that these white shirts are police supervisors as opposed to rank and file. Recently discovered documents suggest something else may be at work.

If you’re a Wall Street behemoth, there are endless opportunities to privatize profits and socialize losses beyond collecting trillions of dollars in bailouts from taxpayers. One of the ingenious methods that has remained below the public’s radar was started by the Rudy Giuliani administration in New York City in 1998. It’s called the Paid Detail Unit and it allows the New York Stock Exchange and Wall Street corporations, including those repeatedly charged with crimes, to order up a flank of New York’s finest with the ease of dialing the deli for a pastrami on rye.

In essence, what the article shows is that the big financial institutions, and other big players, are hiring taxpayer paid police officers as their own private security officers. The city makes money of the scheme and, should any of those officers, whilst doing the bidding of the hiring entity, overstep the mark and get sued, the city is on the hook too which means the taxpayers pay any compensation claim / award! Swet deal.

This also goes way beyond the recently revealed $4.6Million "donation" that the NYPD received from one of the big banks.

I find this rather disturbing as it is completely outside the remit of the police force and they are no longer upholding the law, but rather doing the bidding of a private corporation. When did this become legal I wonder and are any of the US members of this site aware that this was going on? I'd be interested in seeing some opinions on this issue as I have said the same thing about the British police force for a long time now, in it's role of protecting the criminal elites, ignoring their blatant fraud and corruption, yet being set loose on those who have the audacity to protest against it.

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posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 12:00 PM
reply to post by Britguy

I'd like to act all outraged and everything but unfortunately nothing surprises me anymore.
I have come to terms with the fact that we all live in a corrupt police state. I think that some are more sensative
to it than others but as a whole we appear to be adjusting well.

After 2012 comes and goes without any fireworks and fanfare and Ron Paul somehow dies of a self inflicted gunshot wound to the back of the head,
I am going to plan on getting the hell out of this country and heading somehwere where the totolitarianism
isn't so apparant and I can lie to myself and tell myself I am free. At least I will have the luxury of pretending because here in AmeriKa I can't even do that anymore.

The corruption has gotten so far out of control they don't even bother hiding it anymore.
Any attempts to point it out is met with two voices.
One saying this is what we get for Putting up with eight years of Bush and the other saying this is what we get
for electing Obama. Neither one makes any sense and both serve only to divide us even further this ensuring that
NOTHING gets done. What's worse is the fact that it happens more in a place where you are fooled into thinking that people are above average intelligence and are above such primitive thinking........ATS!

If these protests accomplish nothing then I will lose all hope.
edit on 11-10-2011 by Screwed because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 01:05 PM
Oh boy. Wall Street owns/rents NYPD? That sounds about right. This should be front page with a quickness. If the article is at all accurate, it should really spawn some genuine outrage. I wonder what other taxpayer funded services are for sale. Does this happen in other cities too?

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 01:51 PM
We all know some cops work as private security / bouncers when off duty. I don't have a problem with that but this goes too far in providing taxpayer funded armed protection to paying clients, using on-duty officers.

As I said in my opening post, it would not surprise me at all to learn that some of those white-shirted officers, the ones acting aggressively without provocation, are in fact acting on behalf of their Wall Street clients. Simply trying to provoke a reaction, allowing a hard crackdown on the protests everywhere. After all, there is plenty of documented evidence showing police officers acting as provocateurs in past protests, instigating violence then slipping away behind the police lines when the retaliation begins.

Kinda makes me think of another thread on here I saw earlier about prostitution. I mean, this is the mayor and the police brass pimping out their officers as hired muscle. I also wonder if all those white shirted troublemakers are in fact serving police officers. With the money on tap to fight the protestors, there must be plenty of people on call and a host of dirty tricks available to the bankers.

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 06:00 PM
If you think this is bad, wait until the people of these financial giants begin committing crimes like rape and murder, guess which way the police will look.

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:26 PM
Money buys everything. It buys protection, political favors, corruption, contract killings, elections, the presidency, secrecy, power, and prestige. So I guess this really doesn't surprise me.

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:31 PM
I know there are honest police officers, who hold values and morals above greed, but to be honest this doesn't surprise me in the least. Many of us have speculated this to be the case, and many of us probably believe that it runs much deeper than this particular case.

But what can you do? You know, for being a republic, or a type of democracy if you will, we sure don't have a say in most of what goes on under our noses. It is most likely 75% illusion, in my opinion at least. I wonder what percentage of police officers in large corporate cities are on the payroll of at least one corporation...I also wish we knew the percentage of politicians who voted based on their values, as opposed to those who vote based on the interests of whomever pays the most, or vote based on what will benefit them and their cronies...

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:34 PM
the article doesn't show anything. Its a bunch of unverified claims, if you watch the videos look for the collars the insignia on there will tell you the rank. Anybody above Sergeant has a white uniform.

scroll down to ranks for an example of the insignias.

they do not work for wall st directly the work for NYC and their actions have been pretty tame. there is no question the majority of this site is anti-cop and has been for awhile.

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 08:16 PM
reply to post by Screwed

Couldn't have said it better myself. We are also probably on our way out of here too...already have somewhere else to go. It's a terrible feeling...but it's getting insane. My life is okay, but I'm tired of seeing some of my friends and family loosing their life's work. I've even tried to help, but many of them have lost jobs and are running out of money.

Now the police are beating innocent Vets and civilians? I'm gonna lose it soon and end up in a world of trouble.

They gave that money before OWS started which makes me wonder

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posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 09:48 PM
# 1) I don't really care what the protesters are protesting, as they have the right to protest anything they want to.

# 2) The state's DUTY is to protect the rights of citizens, not to trample them! This is the trampling of citizen's rights 100%.

# 3) Put these tyrants in jail where they belong. In general population too, that would be a fitting fate.

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 09:53 PM
Also, paying someone to commit violence against innocent people on your behalf, IS CONSPIRACY!!

Conspiracy to commit a crime is charged against people who helped plan the crime and took some action toward committing it. It’s a more serious version of an aiding and abetting or accessory charge. For example, if two people made a detailed plan to steal a museum’s diamond, but only one of them broke into the museum and took the gem, both could be charged with conspiracy. Asking or paying someone to commit a violent crime is a more serious type of conspiracy. Crimes A-Z

These are conspirators and their paymasters are guilty of a FEDERAL CRIME.

I want to see Justice, pronto!!

If there is no justice, than I guess that means conspiracy to commit violence is legal now? That's cool because I was waiting for this to become legal finally.

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 09:56 PM
Let the police choose their side now. They should be thinking about their families when they make their decision, or when they make the decision to beat the # out of someone protesting because the all seeing eye of providence just doesn't belong to TPTB. Not when we have camera phones and digi-cams. Thanks big corps!

If I can use my smartphone to make homemade porn with my woman, I can also use it to take footage of offending pigs and their identities will be at risk of exposure, and then they leave themselves unguarded against brutal retaliation.

Mind you, I do not advocate that stuff, but if I'm thinking about it, more extreme, violent members of our society are already thinking about who to strike first.

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 09:59 PM
US Code
Title 18
Part 1
Chapter 19
§ 373

(a) Whoever, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony that has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against property or against the person of another in violation of the laws of the United States, and under circumstances strongly corroborative of that intent, solicits, commands, induces, or otherwise endeavors to persuade such other person to engage in such conduct, shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half of the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the crime solicited, or both; or if the crime solicited is punishable by life imprisonment or death, shall be imprisoned for not more than twenty years.

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 10:02 PM

Originally posted by illuminatislave

If I can use my smartphone to make homemade porn with my woman, I can also use it to take footage of offending pigs and their identities will be at risk of exposure, and then they leave themselves unguarded against brutal retaliation.

That's why it becomes extremely commonplace in a police state of tyranny that the police forces will wear masks or put tape over their badge numbers, etc.

Also they brutally confiscate videos as well.

Or even trace whoever put it on youtube through whatever means, and go make them pay for daring to stand up to their bigoted authoritarianism.

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 10:05 PM

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by illuminatislave

If I can use my smartphone to make homemade porn with my woman, I can also use it to take footage of offending pigs and their identities will be at risk of exposure, and then they leave themselves unguarded against brutal retaliation.

That's why it becomes extremely commonplace in a police state of tyranny that the police forces will wear masks or put tape over their badge numbers, etc.

Also they brutally confiscate videos as well.

Or even trace whoever put it on youtube through whatever means, and go make them pay for daring to stand up to their bigoted authoritarianism.

When engaged in war, all bets are off. You can touch someone, and you can and will be touched if not careful. I just put it out there that this is a different world from the 60s. You can't spray someone down with a hose like an animal in 2011, your name, address and face will be on the net within hours.

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 10:06 PM
At the founding of America, there was no police force. What happened is that the rich people all had security and the poor had no defense. So when the poor started rioting, the small security force of the rich people could not coordinate well enough between their employers. As one security group owed no loyalty to another person's property. A compromise was arranged and began the modern day police force and this was started in NYC. So everyone paid to get a more responsive security force.

Today, though it appears corporations own the police force. I used to work for some big corporations and we hired police all the time. We paid them $25 an hour or more sometimes, and they were allowed to use all their power as a police officer. That means if I wanted someone off our corporate property all I had to do was give the order and the police did the rest, called backup and made an arrest. While I did not have a problem with this program back then for small scale activities, it seems very wrong to use police officers paid by corporations to stop demonstrations by the public. As public officials it seems that this would be an abuse of power. They are supposed to uphold the Constitution which includes free speech and the right to assemble. Instead they put right of their paymasters first in protection of their rights.

posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 01:04 AM
There should be some sort of law forbidding corporations to hire police for action against citizens, especially protesting citizens. Who the hell do they think they are? And what kind of POS cop would work for those scum bags? The power of greed never fails to amaze me.
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posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 01:58 AM
Watch you back Britguy.
there is a big target on it. you could get killed or framed.

you need to tell us all yours sources.
as long as it will not get them gaged!

your in UK. have you seen the new news papure called the essential daily briefing?
they seem to be good! maybe becouse they are new.
they did a very good stoiry on OWS. and the free metro.
you can try to get them to print your story.

I feel we are at a time ware we need to get as much out as we can.
people are waking up. but THEM may put them to sleep any time.

posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 02:49 AM
The fact of the matter is many large cities have secondary employment programs for their Police Officers. What this does is it allows private entities to pay the city a fee, and they get Off duty Police officers in full uniform and most times with a marked scout car to guard property, crowd control traffic control, etc. The Police officers are basically working for the business which paid the city. Then everyone gets a cut, the city, the Police Officer, and the business gets their own personal police. Detroit uses this company for their program.

posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 09:13 AM
I think the Cops in the White Shirts are the ones who are benefiting from the payments given they are the must violent. Luckily OWS protesters will have support from the Marines

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