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OWS a Controlled Movement for the Re-election of Barak Obama and Progressive Democrats.

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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by ziggystrange
OP, with all due respect, OWS is not an Obama reelection ploy. It's consensus Democracy aimed at the system and the inequity in finance, government and the destruction of the economy by the top 1%.


First of all, the REPUBLIC of the United States is NOT a "Democracy"... Second of all, read the evidence I provided and watch the videos of the interviews done about what the mayority of the OWS movement want...



Originally posted by ziggystrange
I wish it was a reelect Obama ploy, that would please me as he is the only one willing to bring about change "the right way", but...


No wonder...another Obama supporter that wants people to support the OWS movement...


Originally posted by ziggystrange
OWS is not owned by anyone. It will probably decide who is elected next year, but they have yet to unite behind anyone.


WRONG... It is owned by leftist organizations, and they have a leftist agenda... But of course, and like always people like you will ignore, or dismiss evidence that goes against what you think...



Originally posted by ziggystrange
Lots of Ron Paul people there, and lots of independents. Yes they are probably mostly progressives but they are a wildcard. Republicans and right wingers are driving the independents toward the left by vilifying OWS. I hope they keep up the good work.

Cheers

Ziggy


Really?... Let me prove to you that the "Ron Paul people and other more conservative Americans, including Libertarians, Constitutionalists, etc are only a minority...

BTW, with the small number of people going to the OWS protests you think Obama will be re-elected again?...

What is the one thing that could be seen EVERYWHERE in Tea Party protests and is very rare, if can be seen at all in OWS protests?...




This what is missing from the OWS protests...





Have you seen this in any of the OWS protests?... Singing along, and saluting the American flag as the national anthem is played?...



In the OWS movement protests you will barely find an American flag, or the American flag will be made a joke by puting a peace sign on it instead of having the 50 stars of the United States.

Let's see some photos of the OWS protests.






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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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Fox news zombies still trying to say that the OWS are Obama supporters?

Turn off fox news, go to an occupation in your area and let me know how many Obama supporters you find.

I've been to different occupations, I'm not spouting some fluff like the majority of people here.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by mishigas
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Or maybe they're just pissed off that tax payer money and regular bank saving account holders are now guaranteeing $75 TRILLION (!!!) in risky derivates investments made by the a single bank alone (BoA) at Wall Street.


I was floored when I saw that number, although I heard it was $55T. But two things:
1. It was only revealed recently, so that's not why OWS was organized, and

2. They are barking up the wrong tree. Obama made the rules, why aren't they after him? Makes no sense.

And just think about it...Obama has come out in support of OWS, because he knows he is responsible. But he wants to keep OWS from realizing he is responsible, so he's acting like their bud.


Or maybe it's because the guys at Wall Street only pay a 15% tax on their main source of income (capital gains) which is about as much as someone making no more than $32k.


That's the capital gains tax rate for everyone, isn't it? So, Wall St. is getting no preferential treatment. Once again, it's the govt who is in charge of rates..why not blame them?


Or maybe it's because WS is responsible for this economic crisis but never had to fear any repercusions.


Once again, you are letting the real crooks off the hook.


But yeah, I'm sure it's all just a "communist-socialist-nazi-progressive-Obamalover" conspiracy...riiiight


You don't deny that there are lots of those scumbags there, do you?


The $75 trillion is just the tip of the iceberg, stuff like that has gone on for the better part of 30 years now. So it's not as if this is the only thing that warrants protests


And no, Obama didn't make the rules, and neither did Bush. The bailouts for example were originally designed by Goldman Sachs!! Why? Because without those bailouts, GS wouldn't be anymore. Politicians are mere sock puppets nowadays, so complaining to them is pointless


And it's a total no-brainer to realize WS caused this crisis, and not the government. They infiltrated the government (look at who runs the Fed for example) and deregulated the financial industry to the point where they can screw everyone over.

As for the capital gains tax, no, it's not fair. Why should one type of workers (aka investment bankers) only pay 15% while others who work on a farm pay the full bulk of taxes simply because they're not part of that group? Equality anyone? So the mere fact that they only pay 15% on the MAIN SOURCE OF INCOME while the rest pays more should tell you how much they infiltrated the government to rig the game in their favor

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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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Let's see some more photos of the OWS movement.



Scroll to the right the following photo.







Oh and btw, the OWS protesters claim they don't leave trash behind all over the floor?...



Yes, the above photodoes also show items people would not leave behind but where are these people puting their trash?

The above was probably what happened as the police took people out of that park, but I have seen other photos of plastic bags put in sidewalks in large numbers, and other trash they left behind.

But that's what happens when people live like this for weeks.



I wonder who do they want to take out the trash they left over...

BTW, another interesting photo.



Wow, so no socialists/communists and overall a leftwing agenda behind the OWS movement?...

I wonder what that red symbol of a hammer and sickle is all about?... and right with the message CLASS WAR IS COMING...

Maybe that message, alongside the other messages and interviews, have something to do with this?...



Scroll to the right the above pic to see what a hammer and sickle is all about, to those that don't know.

Naaa...



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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 09:58 AM
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reply to post by ElectricUniverse
 


Well, the type of capitalism employed in the US CLEARLY doesn't work...so the signs are actually correct given all but the top 1% got screwed over the past 30 decades. As for your trash picture, you can't know if that was before they cleaned up...which they've done on numerous occasions. And what's your point anyways? They shouldn't protest because large masses of people cause rubbish...so basically "# free speech if it creates rubbish"?


Please wake up and face the fact that all but the top 1% got screwed massively. Hell, if it goes according to Cain, only the top 0.5% will get any significant benefits under his tax plan, not even the top 1%


Maybe we have to change the slogan to "the 99.5%" if Cain gets elected (not a chance in hell...he's a clown) and goes through with his tax plan



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 10:09 AM
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reply to post by MrXYZ
 


What Capitalism are you talking about?... It was the left, and PROGRESSIVE Democrats who created the corpocracy that has existed for almost 100 years...

It seems obvious that you are one of those people who has no idea who created the problems and are now, AGAIN, claiming they can bring a solution if they are given more power "for the people and the world"...


Oh and btw, people can protest, but staying for weeks in one area causes a lot of sanitary problems, and trash accumulates all over.

Perhaps the protesters should go to their homes at night and allow for the clean up of all the mess they leave behind?

Naaa....




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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by MrXYZ
 


What Capitalism are you talking about?... It was the left, and PROGRESSIVE Democrats who created the corpocracy that has existed for almost 100 years...

It seems obvious that you are one of those people who has no idea who created the problems and are now, AGAIN, claiming they can bring a solution if they are given more power "for the people and the world"...


Oh and btw, people can protest, but staying for weeks in one area causes a lot of sanitary problems, and trash accumulates all over.

Perhaps the protesters should go to their homes at night and allow for the clean up of all the mess they leave behind?

Naaa....




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Still believing in the whole "left vs right" paradigm?


For crying out loud, it doesn't matter who's in power...they're ALL BOUGHT! Politics are just like gladiator games, they're sole goal is to distract the masses to they don't realize what's really going on. Kinda like a football game where both parties suck yet the fans still cheer based on old glory or some other nonsense reason


And it's a FACT that Wall Street is pulling the strings, because it's a FACT that it was them who created the bailout plans. Getting them passed was obviously easy given all politicians are bought. But without a doubt, it was Wall Street who came up with the plan



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by The_Zomar
Fox news zombies still trying to say that the OWS are Obama supporters?

Turn off fox news, go to an occupation in your area and let me know how many Obama supporters you find.

I've been to different occupations, I'm not spouting some fluff like the majority of people here.


Wow... I know people in the left are a little bit slow but c'mon... How many times does it has to be repeated that it is a MAYORITY in the OWS movement who are to the far left, so far away to the left that they can't see the center and believe the left is the center...


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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ

Still believing in the whole "left vs right" paradigm?


No, i believe in the left vs the REPUBLIC and what it means to be a Republican. I know leftwingers love to ignore the Constitution of the United States, and they just mention SOME rights enumerated within the Constitution/Bill of Rights when it suits them, but the fact is that the United States should be guaranteeing a Republican form of government. Not the corpocracy which was implemented by the leftwingers since 1913...but a Republican form of government, just like the founding fathers knew was the best form of government that would best suit all future generations of Americans.


U.S. Constitution - Article 4 Section 4


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Article 4 - The States
Section 4 - Republican Government


The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
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www.usconstitution.net...

Of course, leftwingers have been brainwashing Americans for so long that now-a-days they claim in response to this section of the Constitution that "nobody really knows what they meant by a Republican form of government"...


I swear it, when I hear or read that claim by leftwingers I just want to slap them silly with an encyclopedia...





Originally posted by MrXYZ
For crying out loud, it doesn't matter who's in power...they're ALL BOUGHT! Politics are just like gladiator games, they're sole goal is to distract the masses to they don't realize what's really going on. Kinda like a football game where both parties suck yet the fans still cheer based on old glory or some other nonsense reason


YES IT DOES MATTER.... If Americans concentrated on what made this country great for so long, and if the mayority wanted to bring back what made the U.S. great they would realize that it has been the "progressive/leftwing/socialist" ideas and programs which created all the problems in this nation, and put every American in debt to a central bank and completely corrupted our political system.

BTW in case leftwingers didn't know having a central bank is part of socialism, just like allowing the state/government to consolidate all power, even if those in power claim it is "for the good of all"...




Originally posted by MrXYZ
And it's a FACT that Wall Street is pulling the strings, because it's a FACT that it was them who created the bailout plans. Getting them passed was obviously easy given all politicians are bought. But without a doubt, it was Wall Street who came up with the plan


WRONG, it has been the Obama administration, and the Feds, who alongside Congress and the Senate passed the bailouts, and yes even Bush Junior at the end of his term did a diservice to Americans by wanting to pass bailouts.

Wall Street did not pass these bills for "bailouts"...it was the White House, Congress and the Senate who pulled the strings for the bailouts alongside with the Feds...



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 02:16 AM
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Star and flag! Been saying this for some time now. Either to reelect him, or to start enough crap that he can declare martial law, and try to stop the election. The same people supporting this mob scene are the very ones that attacked a REAL grassroots movement, that is still alive and well (as proven in the last Congressional election...
). Most of the OWS people I see talking in interviews state they have freaking trust funds and stock accounts, or are union people. NOT representative of the average person as they pretend to be. Not to mention all the crime, arrests, trashing every place they go, etc. They are what they accused the Tea Party of being.



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 02:27 AM
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Let's update this with some more information which CLEARLY shows what the OWS movement is all about...




www.lewrockwell.com...


news.anon210.com...


Shame, in the above you can't see the pretty RED words...
occupywallst.org...

Everywhere I look your movement has very similar logos to socialist/communist logos... I wonder why...

Perhaps they have something to do with logos like the following?...

Malaysian socialists clenched-fist logo approved

links.org.au...

Socialist Fist Logos










Soviet Fist

www.neofactionapparel.com...

Yeah, the OWS movement has NOTHING to do with socialism/communism and the desire for a One World Socialist Regime, right?...



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posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 03:40 AM
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And another piece of evidence which should make people realize what the OWS movement is all about is.


Democratising Global Governance:

The Challenges of the World Social Forum

by

Francesca Beausang



ABSTRACT

This paper sums up the debate that took place during the two round tables organized by UNESCO within the first World Social Forum in Porto Alegre (25/30 January 2001). It starts with a discussion of national processes, by examining democracy and then governance at the national level. It first states a case for a "joint" governance based on a combination of stakeholder theory, which is derived from corporate governance, and of UNESCO's priorities in the field of governance. As an example, the paper investigates how governance can deviate from democracy in the East Asian model. Subsequently, the global dimension of the debate on democracy and governance is examined, first by identification of the characteristics and agents of democracy in the global setting, and then by allusion to the difficulties of transposing governance to the global level.


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The governments of Europe, the United States, and Japan are unlikely to negotiate a social-democratic pattern of globalization – unless their hands are forced by a popular movement or a catastrophe, such as another Great Depression or ecological disaster

www.unesco.org...



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by MrXYZ
 


What Capitalism are you talking about?... It was the left, and PROGRESSIVE Democrats who created the corpocracy that has existed for almost 100 years...

It seems obvious that you are one of those people who has no idea who created the problems and are now, AGAIN, claiming they can bring a solution if they are given more power "for the people and the world"...


Oh and btw, people can protest, but staying for weeks in one area causes a lot of sanitary problems, and trash accumulates all over.

Perhaps the protesters should go to their homes at night and allow for the clean up of all the mess they leave behind?

Naaa....




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I take it you've never studied economics, right?


Corporatism was started by REAGAN because he was the first one to hire a ton of Wall Street "advisors". That's a FACT and not even up for debate. However, since then, pretty much every single president and congress has supported what he started...which explains why the people are now largely screwed. Hell, the bottom 99% saw their income grow by 8.9% since Reagan, the top 1%'s income grew by 275%! And people wonder why the protestors are outraged



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ

I take it you've never studied economics, right?


Corporatism was started by REAGAN because he was the first one to hire a ton of Wall Street "advisors". That's a FACT and not even up for debate. However, since then, pretty much every single president and congress has supported what he started...which explains why the people are now largely screwed. Hell, the bottom 99% saw their income grow by 8.9% since Reagan, the top 1%'s income grew by 275%! And people wonder why the protestors are outraged


Why? Because you, or some leftwinger professor claims so?...

I also heard a very leftwinger professor in college claim socialism is the best socio-economic system in the world... But like always neither he, nor the mayority of those who claim this have EVER lived through such a system.

Corporatism was started by the leftwingers in 1913 when they gave power to the rich bankers, and THAT IS A FACT which not you, nor your lies can refute...

When Woodrow Wilson implemented the Feds in 1913 he gave all power over the economy, and all power over the nation to the rich elites, which happen to own the corporations... Or does that fact cannot enter that thick head of yours?

Heck, it was even Woodrow Wilson who implemented the IRS with all it's taxes as it exists today...

Look, I am not saying every leftwinger is a bad person. A lot of you have been caught up in the dream world that only exists in your minds, but the reality of the situation is if you really think about it socialist policies cannot sustain themselves for long, and they only centralize/consolidate all power to the state/government, and to a small group of people who CLAIM to be the people, or to represent the people, but they never really do.




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posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 08:15 PM
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reply to post by ElectricUniverse
 





Why? Because you, or some leftwinger professor claims so?...


No, because the FACTS say so





I also heard a very leftwinger professor in college claim socialism is the best socio-economic system in the world... But like always neither he, nor the mayority of those who claim this have EVER lived through such a system.


Again with the socialism?


Protesting against corporations abusing politicians as sock puppets isn't socialism, protesting against banks being bailed out with taxpayer money isn't socialism, protesting against the FACT that income growth over the past 30 years has been a complete and utter joke for 99% of the country isn't socialism, ....




Corporatism was started by the leftwingers in 1913 when they gave power to the rich bankers, and THAT IS A FACT which not you, nor your lies can refute...


No, it started when corporations took over the Fed...which was only possible once Reagan (and every president since him) started removing crucial regulations.




When Woodrow Wilson implemented the Feds in 1913 he gave all power over the economy, and all power over the nation to the rich elites, which happen to own the corporations... Or does that fact cannot enter that thick head of yours?


Your point is moot as there's plenty of countries with central banks that work just fine....




Heck, it was even Woodrow Wilson who implemented the IRS with all it's taxes as it exists today...


Those very taxes made a broad education possible for the population and catapulted the US to the superpower it (still) is today. Why do you think so many foreigners have been coming to the US to study for decades? Why do you think the US has been leading R&D for decades after WW2? Education...paid for in part through taxes. Sadly that's being changed and a good education will soon only be affordable for the elite, the rest will become worker drones.

Those taxes also pay for the fire fighters who come to your aid when you accidentally torched your place. Or the cops who come to your aid when your neighbour stands in front your door with a baseball bat. Or the guys who make sure no idiots with shoe bombs board your plane...and and and. Nothing's for free, and privatisation isn't always the best solution as is evident by the cost of for-profit colleges for example.




Woodrow Wilson implemented the Feds in 1913 he gave all power over the economy, and all power over the nation to the rich elites, which happen to own the corporations... Or does that fact cannot enter that thick head of yours?


I have to quote that again, because I don't think you realize what you just wrote. Let me get this right:

1) You believe the elite (top 1%) and corporations control the Fed
2) You care a TON about who "started that"
3) You oppose the very people who protest against the elite and corporations taking over the Fed

DO YOU SEE WHY THIS IS BEYOND RIDICULOUS??? You are on the same side as them, you agree with the very core reason why people are outraged enough to protest even if it forces them to sleep on concrete.



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ

No, because the FACTS say so


And the FACT is that the leftwingers put the bankers in power in 1913... How is that so hard for you to understand?...

Oh and btw, as I prove on another thread Reagan was a lifelong liberal democrat...

Reagan was 51 years old when he changed political parties, but he started to support Republican candidates in his 40s. A man in his 40s and 50s already has a very solid moral, and political foundation.


Originally a member of the Democratic Party, he began to support Republican Party candidates in the early 1950s and eventually switched to the Republican Party in 1962.

en.wikipedia.org...

Oh and btw he was a Liberal Democrat.


But Reagan had that harder and more exhausting courage, the courage to swim against the tide. And we all forget it now because he changed the tide. Looking back, we forget that the political mood of today, in which he might find himself quite comfortable, is quite different from the political mood the day he walked into politics.

But he had no choice, he couldn't not swim against the tide. In the fifties and sixties all of his thoughts and observations led him to believe that Americans were slowly but surely losing their freedoms.

When he got to Hollywood as a young man in his twenties, he shared and was impressed by the general thinking of the good and sophisticated people of New York and Hollywood with regard to politics. He was a liberal Democrat, as his father was, and he felt a great attachment to the party. He was proud that his father had refused to take him and his brother Moon to the movie, Birth of a Nation, with its racial stereotypes. And he bragged that his father, Jack, a salesman, had, back long ago when Reagan was a kid, once spent the night in his car rather than sleep in a hotel that wouldn't take Jews. Ronald Reagan as a young man was a Roosevelt supporter, he was all for FDR, and when he took part in his first presidential campaign he made speeches for Harry Truman in 1948.

When Reagan changed, it was against the tide. It might be said that the heyday of modern political liberalism, in its American manifestation, was the 1960s, when the Great Society began and the Kennedys were secular saints and the costs of enforced liberalism were not yet apparent. And that is precisely when Reagan came down hard right, all for Goldwater in 1964. This was very much the wrong side of the fashionable argument to be on; it wasn't a way to gain friends in influential quarters, it wasn't exactly a career-enhancing move. But Reagan thought the conservatives were right. So he joined them, at the least advantageous moment, the whole country going this way on a twenty-year experiment, and Reagan going that way, thinking he was right and thinking that sooner or later he and the country were going to meet in a historic rendezvous.
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www.pbs.org...



Ronald Reagan -[size]= then a liberal Democrat - campaigns on the radio for President Truman in 1948. He also supports Hubert ...


www.youtube.com...



Originally posted by MrXYZ
Again with the socialism?


Protesting against corporations abusing politicians as sock puppets isn't socialism, protesting against banks being bailed out with taxpayer money isn't socialism, protesting against the FACT that income growth over the past 30 years has been a complete and utter joke for 99% of the country isn't socialism, ....


Except that the mayority of the OWS movement, the organizers and partners who started the OWS movement want to abolish Capitalism, they want to give more power to the government because they claim "it will control corporations"...



Originally posted by MrXYZ
No, it started when corporations took over the Fed...which was only possible once Reagan (and every president since him) started removing crucial regulations.


LOL those in control of the corporations HAVE BEEN THE FEDS FROM THE BEGINNING...



Originally posted by MrXYZ

Your point is moot as there's plenty of countries with central banks that work just fine....


Do you forget that there is a so caled WORLDWIDE ECONOMIC CRISIS?...


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posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
Those very taxes made a broad education possible for the population and catapulted the US to the superpower it (still) is today. Why do you think so many foreigners have been coming to the US to study for decades? Why do you think the US has been leading R&D for decades after WW2? Education...paid for in part through taxes. Sadly that's being changed and a good education will soon only be affordable for the elite, the rest will become worker drones.


Perhaps you haven't noticed it but education in this country has become very leftwing, to the point that in many colleges and universities U.S. professors are teaching that "socialism/communism" are great. This indoctrination has existed for a very long time, to the point that liberal Arts is one of the most sought after degrees.

This in turn has allowed socialist policies, and legislation to infiltrate the United States as Americans have been slowly indoctrinated into accepting socialism under a new name.

But even BEFORE socialism/leftwing policies became ingrained into the American society, education existed, and it was 10 times better in many ways than it is these days.

Now-a-days many young people graduate from high school, and even college without knowing proper grammar, math, or history, if having much of an education at all.



Originally posted by MrXYZ
Those taxes also pay for the fire fighters who come to your aid when you accidentally torched your place. Or the cops who come to your aid when your neighbour stands in front your door with a baseball bat. Or the guys who make sure no idiots with shoe bombs board your plane...and and and. Nothing's for free, and privatisation isn't always the best solution as is evident by the cost of for-profit colleges for example.


Oooh, silly me, I guess firefighters didn't exist before socialism, or the Feds... Phew... I guess we must thank Woodrow Wilson for inventing firefighters, cops, an education, which apparently according to MrXYZ didn't exist before the introduction of socialist policies in the U.S. I guess we must also thank Wilson for inventing the cure for cancer, world peace, and for starting a "world utopian society"...

Also, in case you didn't know on overall people who go to private schools have a much better education, and are better prepared than those who attend public schools, and have a public education.

For a long time Americans, including poor children of farmers could have an educatiton without the government being involved in it. Yes, there were problems and many families preferred to have their children work, but the education existed without government help.


Originally posted by MrXYZ
I have to quote that again, because I don't think you realize what you just wrote. Let me get this right:

1) You believe the elite (top 1%) and corporations control the Fed
2) You care a TON about who "started that"
3) You oppose the very people who protest against the elite and corporations taking over the Fed

DO YOU SEE WHY THIS IS BEYOND RIDICULOUS??? You are on the same side as them, you agree with the very core reason why people are outraged enough to protest even if it forces them to sleep on concrete.


It isn't beyond ridiculous... What the OWS movement want in general is for a WORLDWIDE, RED REVOLUTION..

These are the same types of movements which in the past have brought socialist dictatorships to entire nations, which is why I only support movements like the Tea Party, because they don't want "global social change through a RED revolution", but rather to get back to upholding and defending the United States Constitution.

If people in other nations want their INDIVIDUAL governments to work for THEIR people, that's fine and dandy and I would support them. However, I would not support a "One World Social Reform through a RED REVOLUTION" or anything similar to it nomatter what new name you want to give to it EVER... I won't do that because I know through experience, and through knowledge what these movements really do at the end, and what they do, not only to nations, but to the people...


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posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 11:27 PM
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The fact that progressive democrats are backing this


So, that is supposed to mean that they created it?? Everyone supports movements of one kind or another that they have no control over.



The organizers include ACORN


So?? What's wrong with that? Oh right, they're supposed to be the antichrist because they register minorities to vote, I forgot.



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 12:13 AM
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BTW, do you actually think that the world elites will implement exactly what people like you, or I want? NO...

They knew that for us to accept the changes THEY have in mind they needed to create support for THEIR cause, and their goal is the consolidation of all power to the state/corporation.

They created the WORLDWIDE economic crises, and they implemented some socialist policies as they have been doing slowly throughout decades, like making the governments of Canada and the U.S. the owners of one of the largest auto makers in the U.S. GM. They have already put into law some socialist laws, such as FORCED community service, and giving power to what they call the corporation.

Meanwhile the econimic crisis continues, and they fake that "capitalism/as in a free market" can't really solve all the WORLD problems, they will present, once again, that the solution would be to create a One World Government, and THEY will claim "it will work for the people, it is for the good of everyone and the planet", and many people will cheer for it believing every word.

They already have the plans they want to implement, and those are the ones that will be implemented. Once this happens where do you think you, or anyone else will be able to run to to escape the draconian system these people want to implement?

Once there are no borders, no flags, just One Government, One nation, One World, there will be no place to run, or to live in peace away from their draconian system.



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posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by CB328

So, that is supposed to mean that they created it?? Everyone supports movements of one kind or another that they have no control over.


They actually did. Did you forget to look at the evidence? or are you one of those that prefers not to be bothered with evidence because the truth hurts your eyes?



Originally posted by CB328
So?? What's wrong with that? Oh right, they're supposed to be the antichrist because they register minorities to vote, I forgot.


ACORN has been caught with their pants down many times, for example as they were giving advice to a couple, who told the ACORN workers the man was a pimp and his wife was a prostitute, kept quiet about child prostitution, and told the couple how to work with the system and commit fraud... They have also committed voter fraud Not to mention that ACORN along many other leftwist groups are linked to people like Soros.


By Eric Shawn- Fox News Published: 3:53 PM 04/06/2011 | Updated: 3:55 PM 04/06/2011
ACORN pleads guilty to voter registration fraud in Nevada

The defunct political advocacy group ACORN has pleaded guilty to one count of an election law violation in Las Vegas, Nevada.

ACORN attorney Lisa Rasmussen told Fox News that a plea agreement was worked out with the state attorney general. The violation was for unlawfully providing compensation for registering voters based on the total number of people registered. Sentencing for the organization is set for August 10th, and the potential fine is a maximum of $5,000.

ACORN itself was named as a criminal defendant for allegedly running an illegal voter registration scheme called “21,” or “Blackjack,” which paid ACORN workers bonuses based on the number of voters they registered in Nevada during the 2008 election. This is the only case in the country in which ACORN itself was named as a felony defendant, and it has since filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy.

dailycaller.com...










BTW, I am a minority, so according to you I MUST support ACORN because they claim to be the "defenders of the workers"?...



edit on 3-11-2011 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)



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