OccupyBoston encampment threatened by RIOT police. NOW

reply to post by thehoneycomb


you obviously don't understand the constitution yourself...the constitution is protection for citizens from government...not the other way around or citizen vs. citizen...so if I were to tell you to shut up...i'm not technically abridging upon your constitutional rights because I am not a government entity that is attempting to abridge upon your freedoms...get it now?

If you wonder what sort of people would have wanted the Sons of Liberty arrested on theft and vandalism charges instead of cheering them on, look no further than this thread.

16-19.1 Use of Public Grounds.

No person shall, in or upon the Common, Public Garden, or other public grounds of the City, walk, stand, or sit upon the grass, or upon any land planted or prepared for planting or upon a fountain, monument, or statue, or a bandstand, wall, fence, or other structure, or within the basin of a pond otherwise than upon ice, or stand or lie upon a bench or sleep thereon, except that the Mayor may from time to time by proclamation and order permit walking, standing, and lying upon the grassed land of the Common or designated part thereof, or the grassed land of any other public grounds or any other designated part thereof, except the Public Garden, for such days or parts of such days as he shall specify; and he may in like manner by proclamation and order permit sleeping on such days as he shall specify, on any of the benches and any of the grassed lands of the Common or other public grounds, except the Public Garden. Nothing contained in this subsection or in Subsection 16-19.4 of this section shall be held to prohibit the doing of any act in the reasonable performance of his work or employment by any person acting under the authority or direction of any Board or Officer in charge of any of the places described in this subsection.

16-19.3 Permit for Use of Park Land for Demonstrations. No person or organization shall hold or sponsor a demonstration, as herein defined, upon park land unless a permit therefor has first been obtained from the Commissioner of Parks and Recreation. The Commissioner shall honor all requests for such permits, except that the Commissioner may specify the time, place and manner of the demonstration in order to accommodate competing demands for public use of park land and to protect the public safety and convenience. The permit shall require that the permittee be responsible for restoration, rehabilitation and cleanup of the park land which is the subject of the permit. The term “demonstration” shall include demonstrating, picketing, speechmaking, marching, holding of vigils and all other like forms of conduct which involve the communication or expression of views or grievances engaged in by one or more persons, the conduct of which has the effect, intent or propensity to attract a substantial crowd of onlookers or participants. The term “demonstration” shall not include casual park land use which does not have the intent and propensity to attract a substantial crowd of onlookers or participants.

city of boston manisiple codes


by the way, I live in Australia and I was able to find your bylaws.
Shouldnt be to hard for residents of the country to do the same before crying foul.

I do not support the actions of the police, and I mentioned earlier that the police would have used a bylaw to remove protesters, well I found them

reply to post by kdog1982


Sure. Democratic socialists are responsible.

OWS plays right into their hands but that is beside the point.

They are the reason our government is so corrupt and the reason our judicial system is so messed up.

reply to post by here4awhile


Tell me to shut up all day long for all I care.

You are well with in your right to do so.

Doesn't mean I have to listen to you.

Originally posted by morder1
reply to post by garbageface

 

This is not a federal thing, this is a STATE thing. Learn the difference. Period.

Yeah Well... The city/state in question is a STATE of the United States of America, which has a constitution which guarantees every citizen inalienable rights... known as the Bill of Rights...

The quote I provided in the earlier post was from the Bill of Rights if you didnt realize

It's just a state thing? So, my "inalienable rights" do not apply in Boston or New York or Philadelphia or any city or state? That is literally the most pathetic, nonsensical, utterly stupid thing I've heard yet on this forum, and in regard to any argument or opposition against this movement. I honestly do not know what to say.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


I was metaphorically speaking...I'm not actually going to tell you to shut up because I actually respect your opinions...and this is something I think you lack quite a bit of to be honest...

reply to post by thehoneycomb


#ing hell. Know I'm not supposed to say that, but Jesus this is a place where we are supposed to respect the right if dissent, even if we think it's part of the "script". But if someone is in the streets, taking the risks....

reply to post by here4awhile


Thats fine, you have a right to do so.

Even though I'm right.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


as I stated before...you have no idea what you're talking about in regards to the constitution...ignorance is bliss though...

reply to post by tetra50


And yes, I repect all of you in the streets, taking that risk, however, I do think you are part of, even if unwittingly,what has been orchestrated....remarkable times and what brought them about call for remarkable measures. Protest is not necessarily remarkable, but I applaud your effort, at the same time.

reply to post by here4awhile


I know you already said that.

But then I'm just a FISH, and what do we know, us FISH. We,re just seafood, right? Sorry couldn't help it, that gut reaction. Been baited for it waaaaay too long without responding, and I could give a # who hates me for saying that. Treat me like it, guess I have to respond like it

Seattle is getting raided as well...

LIVE STREAM

It's real simple.

These folks need to decide if they are protestors or revolutionaries.

If they are protestors, operating within the law, then they need to either A) vacate the premises in accordance with the law; or B) perhaps allow themselves to be arrested or removed by force in a show of some kind of civil disobedience.

If they are revolutionaries, then, well...that's another story.

Personally I don't think most of these people have the stomach for real revolution, but we shall see.

It's up to them to decide, not me.

Originally posted by silent thunder
These folks need to decide if they are protestors or revolutionaries.
If they are protestors, operating within the law, .

They've decided.
They decide that they're protesters, and because of that the laws dont apply to them, they can break any they feel like, and if they get arrested for it then it is "unconstitutional".

Edit - and I'm serious about that.
Its somethiung to do with what happens to peoples brains when they start assembling in large groups. NONE of those protesters would have slept in that park a week ago, and I suspect if asked why, one of the answers would be (as well as safety) that they were not allowed to.
Now, because theres a lot of them, they feel they can.

You see this kind of thing with protests all over the world, people doing things they know are illegal, but as if by magic they just dont care about that anymore.

reply to post by alfa1




Well then, one way or another they will discover that things don't work that way...

And then they will have a chance to decide whether to back down or double down.

reply to post by silent thunder


Well I don't know about you guys, but Im not about to let them decide for me.

I think it's more about making a stand, even if it is a little stand on a little local law, because they're really pretty fed up. And it is interesting that so many are like - look, they broke a little municipal law, the police are right to arrest them.

And yet the banks have been trading mortgages on excel spread sheets. No, there's big COMPLICATED crimes up there....let's don't look UP THERE, that hurts our heads. But oh, must be out of the park by 7, that's easy, those criminals, arrest them!

It's all really crazy.

What is this GARBAGE??

I watched the livestream feed for a while. Good firsthand info. Then, when the video stream cuts out, we have to watch the Zeitgeist video which promotes communism and a one-world government!!

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE??

They're banning people from the chat for discussing political beliefs while RAMMING theirs down our throats. I'm not saying there aren't interesting points about automation killing jobs, but the conclusion that "money is not a necessary incentive" is NOT substantiated, is illogical, and even if it WERE correct, has NO BUSINESS being shoved down the throats of people looking for live info on the protests!

Is this communist garbage being pushed by really, really stupid people, or is it all part of the elite's agenda?

I'm thinking the latter. Things rarely happen by accident. If that is the case, the elite may be in control of the livestream. Keep that in mind while you're there.