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Originally posted by LeftySinister
I heard this exact type of talk from Tea Party pushers when they first started coming around. They knew the system was corrupt. They saw the "change" that they voted for. The Tea Party was also a melding of political ideologies. Face it, OWS will be hijacked. Hell, it already has been.edit on 11-10-2011 by LeftySinister because: Messed Up!
reply to post by Blaine91555
The OWS group are generally very young, unemployed, living off handouts while demanding even more handouts or part of some of the most radical groups and ideas from the fringe of the Left. Their events are utter chaos, involve violence, drugs, the destruction of property and are trashing the locations they are at.
Originally posted by Screwed
You can't possibly know how much I needed to read that post.
Thanks for sharing.
It is nice to know that it is possible for people to do a complete 180 and
embrace a totally new paradigm.
If I may ask, what was it that finally allowed you to even begin the process?
Did you get to a point where you could no longer deny what was going on?
Did you just wake up one day and realize it was all a sham?
I guess what I am getting at is at some point I would think there was a coming to terms with your ego
and it must have been really hard to set your ego aside and take your mind off of auto pilot and begin to navigate yourself.
Either way it was very inspiriing to read your post because what it means is that it is possible for some of these
hard core polarized people who can't see past their self inflicted labels to actually come to terms with a very unfamiliar reality.......
UNITY!!!!edit on 11-10-2011 by Screwed because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by thedeadlyrhythm
seabag, you need a history lesson. you really, really, really do. i can't stand hearing people like you babble talking points that have been drilled into your head by other people. its honestly ridiculous.
punishing the rich? really? do you have no concept of historical tax policies at all? there is nothing radical about any of this. do a little research for yourself for god's sake. shut off limbaugh, shut off o'reilly, and think for yourself. if you really think this country is in the toilet because of liberalism and people who just dont want to work and want a handout, you've truly and completely fallen for it. wealth has not been so concentrated at the top since 1929. do i need to remind you what happened that year? probably.
i don't even feel like explaining further, there will be no getting through to you. im sure you'll shrug this off as 'commie liberal mumbo jumbo' and go back to your talkbox telling you what to think.edit on 11-10-2011 by thedeadlyrhythm because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by seabag
Originally posted by thedeadlyrhythm
seabag, you need a history lesson. you really, really, really do. i can't stand hearing people like you babble talking points that have been drilled into your head by other people. its honestly ridiculous.
punishing the rich? really? do you have no concept of historical tax policies at all? there is nothing radical about any of this. do a little research for yourself for god's sake. shut off limbaugh, shut off o'reilly, and think for yourself. if you really think this country is in the toilet because of liberalism and people who just dont want to work and want a handout, you've truly and completely fallen for it. wealth has not been so concentrated at the top since 1929. do i need to remind you what happened that year? probably.
i don't even feel like explaining further, there will be no getting through to you. im sure you'll shrug this off as 'commie liberal mumbo jumbo' and go back to your talkbox telling you what to think.edit on 11-10-2011 by thedeadlyrhythm because: (no reason given)
Well thanks for the history lesson. All I read was you talking smack. Spare me your rants as they add nothing to this conversation. History has shown that socialism always leads to more poverty, more oppression, bigger government, less individual freedom, less individual wealth and less personal responsibility. Keep drinking that liberal Kool-Aide. As usual, it will get you nowhere. You'll never see that concentration of wealth you're so worried about.
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Screwed
Thats a very sweet post but...Have you ever heard that song that says, "you've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything"?
Is taking no side the new Politically Correct thing to do?
I realize this is a conspiracy site but do you really believe anyone who is right/left has been duped?
Why do you think people who stand for the right or left are wrong for standing for what they believe?
IMO, choosing no side does not make you a genius...it makes you indecisive because everyone has a belief system.
"Let's all get along" is not a belief system and you cannot stand for everything.
So you think everyone should put aside right and left for good and do what? Stand together for what?
Originally posted by MajorKarma
reply to post by ugie1028
Just vote for Ron Paul and all this crap will be sorted out and our country will be pulled back from the edge of destruction. Otherwise, don't whine and cry about your lives because you will definitely have yourselves to blame. Don't misunderstand me, I have little faith in Americans who I am one of but don't claim; this country deserves exactly what it gets and has gotten and I truly can't wait to get out from amongst you.
Here is essentially how it went down, anyone feel free to correct or add additional detail: In 99 Wall St, through Phill Gramm essentially got DC to repeal the Glass-Stegall act. This allowed them to start bundling and selling the mortgages as investment vehicles. There was also a push to get more people to buy houses so the Interest Rates were low and Wall St. starts pushing the variable APR loans, so you can get into a house CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP. This was all fine and dandy, people are buying houses, and borrowing against them to buy cars and furniture for the house they couldnt afford in the first place. Wall St knew they couldnt afford it, but didn't care, as long as that loan got closed, they could bury in one of the investments and sell it off. They got Moodys to slap a AAA rating on them and sold them to everyone, including many retirement funds. Now during this time, they are writing and selling as many loans as they possibly could. All the while knowing, eventually things are going to come crashing down. They know the loans are crap, thats why they sell them off as fast as they can. Now the economy goes south and people start losing jobs and houses. Wall St doesn't give a damn, they made their money selling the loans and the investments. Now, the stuff hits the fan. The investments are now worth pennies on the dollar. The banks are super low on capital and need gov't infused cash to make sure they can stay afloat of their day to day operations. They get that money and essentially use it against us, they short everything, they push the futures markets around, making us pay more for gas and other commodities and make a killing on this, more than enough to pay back the Gov't and still stuff billions in bonuses into their pockets. So, they sold us things we could not afford, bundled those bad investments and sold them to our retirement funds. Then when the stuff hit the fan, the took the money from the Gov't, bet hard against Americas economy, put it further in the dumper in the futures market and other places, then used that money to pay back the Gov't. And all of that money came from the American worker, from our taxes and from our Retirement funds. And now they are sitting back on stacks of cash and laughing at us.
A story today revealed the Occupy Wall Street protests have devolved into a shameless display of moral depravity – with shocking (or perhaps not) interviews of protesters claiming to be getting high every day and having sex ‘in a tarp’ and out in plain view. For all the ‘tea bagger’ jokes the media couldn’t resist telling, perhaps they could come up with something this time around?
The NY Post reports:
Lured by cheap drugs and free food, creepy thugs have infiltrated the crowd of protesters camped out in Zuccotti Park for Occupy Wall Street, The Post has learned.
“I got warrants. I’m running from the law,” boasted Dave, 24, a scrawny, unshaven miscreant in filthy clothes from Stamford, Conn. “I’m not even supposed to be here, but it’s as good a spot as any to hide.”
Wanted for burglary, the drug-addled fugitive said some of his hard-partying pals clued him in that the protest was a good place to be fed, get wasted and crash.
…
Drugs can be easy to score — a Post reporter was offered pot for $15 and heroin for $10.
They’ve already fueled at least one violent incident, when a wasted nut job socked a medical volunteer in the face before others hauled the attacker away.
“ It’s very classy. Your parents must be so proud,” Glenn said of the protest.
“Zuccotti Park smells now like an open sewer with people urinating and defecating in public,” Glenn said.
“Let’s just be honest. They’re animals,” Glenn said.
The post added that some protestors were there for free food – like the $16/lb salmon and cream cheese that was handed out the other day.
“Listen to that oppression. The oppression of these poor protestors only eating $16 per pound salmon with cream cheese,” Stu said.
“We are entering the days of Weimar. Remember when I told you when TARP was coming down, I said read about Weimar. You have to know about Weimar Republic. That is what preceded Nazi Germany, and it became vile. It became exactly what we’re doing now. And it got so far out of control that the people begged for it to stop. And when they put it all back together, it didn’t resemble anything, anything like what it was. That’s why the purity of the race and the purity of the children and, you know, the Hitler youth, why that was also popular because they had gone so far off the rails. Exactly where we’re going now,” Glenn warned.