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To all you Liberal, Marxist, or Socialist folks....

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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:41 PM
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No nation wants to break even on the dept. It's a waste of time.




posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
reply to post by Convicted
 


Oh please..........

Are you trying to tell me that you aren't lumping the democrats and progressives into your Marxist or Socialist classification?

Parroting back Rush is so lame! I also listened to him today!



Sorry didnt listen to Rush today. He is kind of annoying. To be honest, i quess without giving it much thought that I subconsciously included Progressives with Liberals. I should probably get points deducted for that. I didnt really think of Democrats though, because only part of them are really Liberals, Socialists, or Marxists and I didnt want to over generalise.

I really thought I was being nice, because I thought Marxist was a nicer way of saying Communist.

Do you want me to change my title to say "To all you Liberal, Marxist, Progressive, or Socialist folks"?

If it would make you feel better and get you focused on my original questions instead of obsessing then I will be glad to do it. Just let me know. Heck, i will even take suggestions about the title if you feel something is more fitting?



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by Convicted
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I am not for eliminating defense entirely. I am just trying to help all the Liberal, Marxists, and Socialists to get the picture that if we cut all of what they hate it still isnt enough to pay for all the social programs they want.


So, in other words, you have asked a question and provided a hyperbolic response to that question which you will attribute to your opponent in the discussion and then you will use the argument you have made for them to prove that they are wrong....Congratulations on your Strawman thread.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to post by Convicted
 


No nation wants to break even on the dept. It's a waste of time.


I dont understand what you are trying to say you could you explain it to me, please?



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to post by Convicted
 

cut funding from the programs that help ex-cons find jobs


Why would you want to cut funding from that? Isn't helping people find jobs a good thing? Thought you wanted to help the poor? Ex-cons are the poorest I though. Isn't better to have them working then out on the streets falling back into crime?
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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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the strawman here is robbin from the rich to give to the poor making everyone poor in the process

that doesnt seem to hold any weight whatsoever so theres your strawman arguement oh hey hows that working out for you?

got your free cash yet? been going on since 1935 has anyone been made rich from it?

didnt think so.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by madhatr137

Originally posted by Convicted
reply to post by GeorgiaGirl
 


I am not for eliminating defense entirely. I am just trying to help all the Liberal, Marxists, and Socialists to get the picture that if we cut all of what they hate it still isnt enough to pay for all the social programs they want.


So, in other words, you have asked a question and provided a hyperbolic response to that question which you will attribute to your opponent in the discussion and then you will use the argument you have made for them to prove that they are wrong....Congratulations on your Strawman thread.


What? Are you pulling a Jedhi mind trick on me? I think its working.

No I asked a question about how can we pay for what we have and how can we pay for what we have and also add the things that Liberals, Marxists, Progressives (out of respect for whaaaaa), and Socialists would like to add.

It seems like a reasonable question, being we live in a world where money doesnt fall out of the sky. So I want to know if people want these things, how do they plan to pay for it.

Is that wrong?



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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So now anyone who doesn't believe in your belief system is a fascist? Guy asked a question, that wasn't even offensive. Can we drop the whole your trolling bit? It honestly makes your side seem touchy and defensive over nothing. Look, don't harass, educate with reason and logic. Not name calling and hyperboles.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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I don't know why you fail to understand just how much money should be taxed from the entertainment industry right now, but isn't. With that change alone, we could pay off the national dept in 10 years. They make more money than any one person can spend in a lifetime, and they need to pay uncle sam.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:57 PM
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If it would make you feel better and get you focused on my original questions instead of obsessing then I will be glad to do it. Just let me know. Heck, i will even take suggestions about the title if you feel something is more fitting?



I addressed your question on page !. You ignored it. Try and keep up!



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:57 PM
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trolls shills fascist reprobate ld ignorant inhumane...so many words in one little post. I love how you throw these words around while criticizing people who can see the writing on the wall.
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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave

This is a bunch of trolling nonsense. You fascist shills throw around the socialist marxist stuff as an insult and you know it.

This entire thread should be removed for trolling.

To the left leaning folks, next time one of these reprobates call you a communist or marxist, call them a fascist pig and see how they like it. You've got a bunch of old, ignorant, and inhumane conservatives running around here trying to act cute with their code words. These are the same folks that would sell their countrymen out to suck off a bunch of thieves and crooks. # these fascist whores of the oligarchy.


Why would someone be insulted by being called a Marxist or a Socialist or a Communist if they were in fact a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist. Are they insulted by their own belief system?

Let me help you out. I am a facist pig, I am a facist pig, I am a facist pig. Oh crap, I just made myself cry.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
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If it would make you feel better and get you focused on my original questions instead of obsessing then I will be glad to do it. Just let me know. Heck, i will even take suggestions about the title if you feel something is more fitting?



I addressed your question on page !. You ignored it. Try and keep up!


Ok I will go back and find them.

Sorry!



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by Mcupobob

Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to post by Convicted
 

cut funding from the programs that help ex-cons find jobs


Why would you want to cut funding from that? Isn't helping people find jobs a good thing? Thought you wanted to help the poor? Ex-cons are the poorest I though. Isn't better to have them working then out on the streets falling back into crime?
edit on 10/10/2011 by Mcupobob because: (no reason given)


See how the mind of a fascist pig works?

Funding programs to help ex cons to become productive members of society= bad

Spending millions to incarcerate said ex con when he falls back into crime= good.


A bunch of hypocritical nonsense from a rush limbaugh inspired loon.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by Convicted

Originally posted by whaaa
How about leveling the playing field and quit welfare for the corporations. Oil companies making record profits, paying no taxes and receiving taxpayer subsidies.

How about taking away the farm subsidies for not growing crops to keep the prices up?

How about propping up companies that are "to big to fail" like banks.

and last but not least.....

costofwar.com...

You are such a hypocrite targeting social programs and ignoring taxpayer funded welfare for big business. Troll!


Ok, how much does that save us?

I just want you to know that when you call me a troll it turns me on.


I went back and found that I did reply to your post.

I asked you how much does your ideas save us. So can you please answer that. You can ballpark it. Just for a guage, we need to save at least 1.5 trillion per year to get to break even. But if you come up short feel free to add as many things to cut as you want. There is no limit as the goal is to get to break even. Then we can see what to cut to pay for healthcare and free college and whatever else you woud like.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by Mcupobob
reply to post by illuminatislave
 


So now anyone who doesn't believe in your belief system is a fascist? Guy asked a question, that wasn't even offensive. Can we drop the whole your trolling bit? It honestly makes your side seem touchy and defensive over nothing. Look, don't harass, educate with reason and logic. Not name calling and hyperboles.


So anyone that doesn't believe in your belief system is a communist, socialist, or a marxist?

Spare me with your disingenuous horse#.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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Thread closed due to the inability of members to post in a civil manner.

Disgusting, divisive behaviour consistent with the misguided political scene so evident today



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to post by Convicted
 


I don't know why you fail to understand just how much money should be taxed from the entertainment industry right now, but isn't. With that change alone, we could pay off the national dept in 10 years. They make more money than any one person can spend in a lifetime, and they need to pay uncle sam.


What in the hell are you talking about? I'm a SAG/AFTRA actor/crew and I get taxed a third of my income just like everyone else. And the production companies can't excape their taxes either. Just who/what are you referencing.



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