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Forget Wall Street, Blame the Federal Reserve and all of Central Banking

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posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by TheBandit795
IMO, the best remedy to defend yourself against this is not some protest but to take responsibility for your own life, become sovereign and to Internationalize Yourself.

More on that later on...


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posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 02:58 PM
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On one hand, I think it's a good thing. It's getting the idea out there that maybe it's not so insane that this society is based off of corruption and the powers that be might actually lie to us for real for real!

It's making it more acceptable of an idea, and more people are starting to open up to it.

The only problem is they don't know exactly what is going on. They are targeting this ominous 1%, that will likely only target the 99%. The idea that lets tax the rich while the guys at top don't follow the taxes that we are being duped into trying to pass is almost laughable.

I really hope that serious issues that can help change our society for the better take root fast, and even if they get tricked into this tax, that idea is in their head and we can all oppose this together. This can really go either way, and if we are proactive enough with providing the information to the occupiers, then this can only lead to great things. If we let the few dupe them and trick them into taxing themselves, then we get taxed along side them.

No matter how wealthy or poor you are. -- You know how the public is about reading bills.




Originally posted by TheBandit795
IMO, the best remedy to defend yourself against this is not some protest but to take responsibility for your own life, become sovereign and to Internationalize Yourself.

More on that later on...

I agree with this to an extent . . . however i feel fixing the problem requires much more than turning inward. It is very important that we fix our own issues, better ourselves, etc. But when our money is play money and the governments have the guns, and they have everyone on file already it's hard to only go inward. If you could elaborate more in internationalizing yourself, I do want to hear more on your opinions on that.
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posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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To heck with all this political sleight of hand going on its not going to amount to anything its been jacked by the establishment already, its now a waste of everyones time, if anything its going to strengthen the Elite's grip on the population. I'm more of a "Doomtard" I don't function normally unless some sort of catastrophe is right around the corner! I need another countdown to annihilation to put me back in my right frame of mind lol



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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Do you want to know why "Occupy" will never win?

See my signature.




posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 06:56 PM
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Yes...because blaming the sock puppets (federal reserve) for the actions of the puppet master (Wall Street) is clever, right?

Wall Street RUNS the federal reserve!!!



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
Yes...because blaming the sock puppets (federal reserve) for the actions of the puppet master (Wall Street) is clever, right?

Wall Street RUNS the federal reserve!!!


Wall street does not run the federal reserve, the IMF does. Get a clue man. The federal reserve is the printing press for the Rothschilds and the ruling Elite. Every child born is given anumber, that number is a commodity number, that number is printed on a Treasury Bill worth $1,000,000 dollars and is TRADED tot he federal reserve for $1,000,000 in "Notes" a debt created at YOUR BIRTH. It is your account, when you reach the age of 18 and get a credit "score", your stock goes up. You now have more value as you ask for more "privileges" in the form of licenses, hunting fishing, drivers, marraige, all of which you do not need but add to the amount of "Notes they can print as a result of YOUR signature. You give the Fed the authority to print "money" FOR you but you never see it. Long story short, the IMF is the first lien holder on you till you rebut it. Reclaim your "strawman" account and live debt free.



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 10:52 PM
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I have been smelling a rat some where since day one, where the hell is it, whatever, I'm growing tired of trying to be sure of what is what after the IMF. Just keep in mind that when you owe nothing to anyone, when your on top of the world, what's the view like??? What if the cold truth is there are no aliens and we are alone - totally alone in this region of space, on top of that you own all the wealth, you own all possible or even close to known knowledge of who we are, and how we are. What if the possibility is true that these elites have been playing with fire for thousands of years through the family tree? What hunger would you have and what more power could you lust for? I get the heebie jeebies at thinking some rich elite knowing the things I know, i.e metaphysics. And then some. So yes, forget wall street, lets go higher and focus aim for hitting the bulls-eye peacefully before it aims at us.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by daddio

Originally posted by MrXYZ
Yes...because blaming the sock puppets (federal reserve) for the actions of the puppet master (Wall Street) is clever, right?

Wall Street RUNS the federal reserve!!!


Wall street does not run the federal reserve, the IMF does. Get a clue man. The federal reserve is the printing press for the Rothschilds and the ruling Elite. Every child born is given anumber, that number is a commodity number, that number is printed on a Treasury Bill worth $1,000,000 dollars and is TRADED tot he federal reserve for $1,000,000 in "Notes" a debt created at YOUR BIRTH. It is your account, when you reach the age of 18 and get a credit "score", your stock goes up. You now have more value as you ask for more "privileges" in the form of licenses, hunting fishing, drivers, marraige, all of which you do not need but add to the amount of "Notes they can print as a result of YOUR signature. You give the Fed the authority to print "money" FOR you but you never see it. Long story short, the IMF is the first lien holder on you till you rebut it. Reclaim your "strawman" account and live debt free.


You obviously have no clue about who the people running the fed reserve are. Look up their CVs (in the link I posted) and it's ABUNDANTLY clear Wall Street is running it


Also, debt in general isn't the issue...over-leverage is, and giving loans to people who can't afford to ever repay them. Either way, the fed reserve is run by Wall Street...

Lastly, please check how the monetary system really works. Yes, it's messed up, but the claim that they can print more money based on you getting licenses (which ARE necessary) is beyond ridiculous

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posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by TheBandit795
IMO, the best remedy to defend yourself against this is not some protest but to take responsibility for your own life, become sovereign and to Internationalize Yourself.

More on that later on...


That's pretty dumb ... really it is. Who do you think you are, in an International World? Not a goddamn thing, that's what you are ... what sort of competing school, do you think your children will have, if the Arabs are in power? What sort of Job, do you think your Children will have, if the Chinese are in Power. What sort of local policy, do you think will be run, if the Russians are in power?

You better get your fat ass off that chair, and start demonstrating before it's too late for your children.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
Also, debt in general isn't the issue...over-leverage is, and giving loans to people who can't afford to ever repay them. Either way, the fed reserve is run by Wall Street...

Lastly, please check how the monetary system really works. Yes, it's messed up, but the claim that they can print more money based on you getting licenses (which ARE necessary) is beyond ridiculous



Money, is just an IOY. The funny part of it all, which nobody really gets ... is the way it's handled by Wall Street and other Brokers. It isn't just Wall Street itself, Wall Street is ok ... it's the Broker system. It's the Stock exchange system, which is making all this. What you are living is an inflation, that went bust ...

Wall Street is just an exchange, that exchange goods value. The dollar itself, is based on GDP. Now, you have to try and understand what actually is happening in the system ... the Brokers, are buying at GDP, and then they are selling at GDP +x%. Where is this +x% coming from? Nowhere ... that is the point ... its inflation money, that isn't being stored as inflation ... and every 10 or so years, since the Companies starting using this system, this money needs to be cashed out. These are known as "Bubbles" ... it's when the brokers, who really don't own this x% ... just made it up, are actually turning them into hard currency. Which means, YOU ... will lose this x%. This brokery piles up, year for year ... until ... everyone cashes out ... and YOU are the loser.

It's not the Central Banking that is wrong in and by itself, nor is Wall Street wrong in and by itself either. But when you are buying and selling at a margin profit. This profit must come from somewhere ... and when you are in a global market, where is this plus margin coming from? Mars?

The thing you must understand, is that all these + margins, require there is an increase in production. It's a must ... but at the same time, there is a cut down in labor. Which means, the system isn't balancing out. The Wall Street guys are just greedy, and they see this as virtual money. If we were making a plan to populate the moon, then you could have this ...

In reality, what you need is ... GROWTH ... real growth. You need the government, to make plans for some future metropolis, future something that will create need. Wall Street is demanding growth in cash flow, at the same time as they are demanding cut down in human consumption.

Therein leis your problem.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 10:09 AM
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It already IS aiming at us, They very cunningly used our tax funded public education system, and our student loan system (use to be people weren't in debt until they started a business or bought a house, but the youth now BELIEVE they must be in debt just to have a career) to indoctrinate the future generations to see things THEIR way.... Now that this has been accomplished and the current generation has been blinded to the reality of TPTB evilness by their very education.... They are using our kids to BE the weapon of our demise

PURE EVILNESS



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

Who is the majority stockholder of all fortune 500 companies? They have the rights to appoint CEO's and are also in positions of conflicts of interest yet they only manage it because the people are blind and refuse to see what is there to see if they only took time to educate themselves.

This whole OWS is a contingency IMO to get the people to act so the control has to react to stifle the dissent.

When have the people not been played?

I keep pointing out the above link and video and yet because it isn't entertainment it gets little concern.

That alone should tell you what the problem is



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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You obviously don't know what I meant about Internationalizing.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 10:34 AM
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Wow!!!

Read this new article I've read from a blog I've recently found: The Resilient Family

A few observations about Occupy Wall Street



Both quotes are relevant in the context of the hullabaloo over the Occupy Wall Street Movement (OWS). Here’s why: Both of our tired political parties are desperately trying to maneuver themselves into the middle of the OWS debate to appear relevant.

Democratic dogma says OWS is all about corporate greed and scumbag bankers, the solution to which is even more government regulation and taxes. They’ve rolled out the labor unions and progressives to make their case. Republican dogma says OWS is a bunch of weirdo Brahmin-class, pot-smoking elitists who are out to destroy the “free market” and replace it with Socialism. They trot out candidates like Herman Cain to make their point.

One side says government is the problem. The other side says corporate America is the problem. So, who’s right?

Both of them…or more precisely, neither of them.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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Another quote:

www.theresilientfamily.com...


The government gets money from taxes. Over time they keep growing and keep taking more and more money from the people. Eventually there are three groups. The rich and powerful who make money off the government. The lower class, who get free stuff from the government. And the middle group, who creates all the money that goes to the first two groups. At some point this middle group doesn’t want to support the other two groups but they can’t vote them out because they are only one third. And that is what is happening now.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by le843
I have been smelling a rat some where since day one, where the hell is it, whatever, I'm growing tired of trying to be sure of what is what after the IMF. Just keep in mind that when you owe nothing to anyone, when your on top of the world, what's the view like??? What if the cold truth is there are no aliens and we are alone - totally alone in this region of space, on top of that you own all the wealth, you own all possible or even close to known knowledge of who we are, and how we are. What if the possibility is true that these elites have been playing with fire for thousands of years through the family tree? What hunger would you have and what more power could you lust for? I get the heebie jeebies at thinking some rich elite knowing the things I know, i.e metaphysics. And then some. So yes, forget wall street, lets go higher and focus aim for hitting the bulls-eye peacefully before it aims at us.


You're already dead ... there is no way to target someone in the quiet. What you call TPTB, have been targetting you for the past 10 years. Your just skin and bones ...

This economic crisis, has been going on for decades. It was done to Sweden in 1993, to force them into the European Union. They were too stupid, not to participate. The European Union is busy ripping itself apart, by creating a diversity of a population, that is targeted at killing it's democracy to even notice it's own sickness. The bio diversity, of the many states and countries, are under destruction. The bio-diversity that existed, in that there existed all kinds of people, with all kinds of government ... where no one was not represented, is being systematically killed.

In Europe, all the government companies have been systematically robbed. WE, the people, payed for the cables of television with our tax money. We payed for the roads, and the electricity, with our taxes. We now have to pay homage, for the use of those very cables we payed for ... because they were "given" to private ownership.

Our world renowned health care system, is now private ... and all cuts, are done on the patients. The patients pay for the cut backs, with their lives and their health. It doesn't hurt the payroll of the medical personell, lawyers, or the income for the medical companies ... access to health care, is now restricted.

We once had jobs, and industry that made us capable of building homes and lives. These industries have now been outsourced to China, India or somewhere else. For the average purpose of helping these 3rd world nations to climatize to a new world order, but we ... the people ... pay for it, with our health, homes and sometimes with our lives. We have no jobs now, and our street corners are turning into little Chinatown, with sushi bars, and restaurants on every corner, where people are employed as slave labour. Where they have no social security of any kind, and the restaurants don't pay taxes. The slave labour, coming from India, the middle east, Asia, have payed hundreds of thousands of dollars to get here. They payed the restaurant owner, to give them jobs. Payed the restaurant owner, to help them migrate to Europe ... are bound to him, unless they obey they will have to leave Europe. So the restaurant owner, has them employed on minimalistic wages, and payes minimal taxes to society if any. If these people get unemployed, they have no social security at all. And the rest of us, don't have jobs, to buy the overpriced stuff that is made in China. The stuff I can go to China, and buy for 1€, I am buying at a local store for 15€.

The immigrants are slave labour.

Now, I am asking you ... AMERICAN ... are you the bright light you've always claimed to be ... or are you just another numb nuts, who doesn't care one goddamn thing, one way or another as long as it payes for you personally. Do you have the courage to stand up and fight, for what is worth fighting for ... or are just another nincompoop ... who loves killing defenceless people, women and children, and sodomize prisoners?

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posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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hehe, no I don't really give a hoot, but to humanity I hope for the best. I honestly believe we ALL have already been dead/screwed, just trying to be there on a level with/for every one. Got a 3 thousand year old scam stuck in my head waiting to see if it will become reality one day ( nwo), glad I got my place, tucked away and ready in case shtf. will i stand - yes, when it's honorably - reasonable with the right circumstances, other then that I got some seriously blind family and friends to take care of who refuse to wake up -- uuugggghh! Korpiklanni -like- music and beer to go too! I'm ready for what ever, you can only do so much



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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The problem is that most of the big timers in the Markets are behind the power of the Federal Reserve, also responsible for the collapse of the economy in 2008, still they will be responsible for the next collapse in the making.

What a shocker, the same created mess that collapse the economy was never stopped but made worst when Wall street got away with getting bailed out.

The problems with our economy our government and the corruption that has taken hold of both have its roots in wall street no in the Federal Reserve, the Fed is just a tool, to launder money, steal money and move money around.

The protesters are not stupid, neither dumb they knew who they are targeting, Wall street is from where the root of the problem comes from.

It may be some conspiracies going on but the truth is the truth.
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posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by TheBandit795
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It's the Federal Reserve... Repeat after me: T H E - F E D E R A L - R E S E R V E




Aaron Russo on The Federal Reserve & How to Shut it Down

www.youtube.com...



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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The sad truth that fiat money is a scam ignored by many and viewed unimportant by the rest. If your given a choice in taking $100 in American bills or $100 worth of gold (current market value). Many would think there is no difference yet there is, the greatest difference imagined, fundernmental to each system. the value of American Bills goes down in value over time and the Gold goes up in value over time.
15 years ago if I made the a offer your choice would be th $100 bucks cash.. now worth $71 (2011) or $100 bucks of Gold. The slghtly over quarter ounce gold then would be worth around $500... $71 vs $500 if America made notes were made at a Gold Standard instead of non redemable valueless paper then it would buy $500 of items today but saddly instead it can be declaired valueless and not be worth the paper it's printed onover night. The Gold backed Bill will always have value. The Fed doesn't like this:

1) They discorage saving by having money decrease in value over time, this keeps people consuming.
2) The money in circulation becomes increasingly valueless so as they print more money as needed, they control were the new money it goes and to who.
3) The fiat system is more volatile changing in value constantly and allows for better "gambling" by Wall street and easier control by the big banks should they need it. This means corporations with large amounts of money can artificially rise or drop a Countries money value, buy cheap or sell expensive, making even more money.



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