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Forget Wall Street, Blame the Federal Reserve and all of Central Banking

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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 04:19 PM
Hi guys,

I've read a very interesting article on why blaming Wall Street is wrong. It's like a member said earlier today "blaming a headache for a tumor" (or something like that )

There is definitely something direly wrong going on in the finance world today, with the U.S. dollar losing the vast majority of it's value in the last 100 years (inflation), with families not being able to come by with the same amount of income they used to 10-20-30-40 or 50 years ago (chalk that up to inflation as well). And (especially manufacturing) jobs being lost. There is something wrong with the system as it is, but is the finger being pointed in the right direction, in the case that there is someone to blame?

The article thinks the wrong entity is being blamed.

It's not entirely right, of course. Wall Street, or much of it, provides an essentially transactional function. It wouldn't exist as it does without the larger economic system of the Western world driven by central banking.

There are very large centers of money power in Wall Street such as Goldman Sachs; and Goldman Sachs is certainly an integral and purposeful part of the modern corporatist system. But even much of what Goldman Sachs does is essentially transactional. It's fundamentally a business, an intermediary, and its employees are paid (a lot, admittedly) to perform certain functions. The real control, I'd argue, lies elsewhere.

It's not Wall Street, it's the Federal Reserve and all of Central Banking (think Rothschilds, Rockefellers etc...)

To get at the root of the problem, one should be protesting, say, in London's City where central banking originated. Or protesting in front of the Federal Reserve in Washington DC. These are real seats of power. But the shadowy and excessively powerful and wealthy individuals who have created the modern economic system are quite satisfied no doubt to have Wall Street take the blame. It suits their purposes.

See the videos "Money as Debt"; Money as debt II; "The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America"; "The Secret of Oz"; "The American Dream" or the books "Web of Debt" or The Creature from Jekyll Island : A Second Look at the Federal Reserve for more info.

But that's not all... The article claims that the same central banking families have been trying to foster sentiments hostile to Wall Street for some time now.

But education only goes so far; and it's an ongoing process. In response, the Anglosphere power elite that we write about regularly has fought back. It's been trying to crank up the "blame Wall Street" theme for several years now. Finally, it's catching on.

Why? So they can validate taking more control over the system by having even more gubernamental control and restrictions over the economic system??

It goes on to explain why regulation doesn't work why there are efforts (by unions for example) to simply have more control, while Wall Street and the so-called "free market system" isn't really the problem.

Central Banking and "printing fiat money out of thin air" -- which according to the article -- "creates first booms and then devastating busts" is the problem.


As seen in this video below, the establishment is infiltrating the OWS movement and is slowly but surely transforming it into a class and race war for their benefit. Rockefeller & Rothschild is winning yet again...

posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 04:23 PM
IMO, the best remedy to defend yourself against this is not some protest but to take responsibility for your own life, become sovereign and to Internationalize Yourself.

More on that later on...

posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 04:41 PM
Wall street's hand's are just as dirty as the banks. Yes they should be protesting the fed and the white house as well. But in no way should wall street just walk away from this with no blame like they always do because they helped the banks and the fed destroy our economy.

posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 04:43 PM
Of course they shouldn't walk away with no blame, but the FED's hands are much, much dirtier than theirs. The Federal Reserve is the cause of the economic disease, They (wall street) are mere symptoms..

posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 04:44 PM
reply to post by TheBandit795

I agree, if there was ever something to take down and "Occupy" for the good of all people, it would be the federal reserve. This occupy movement is really nothing but a feel good protest really. What makes it "Occupy" over a protest? The fact that the signs say occupy.

posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 04:46 PM
reply to post by TheBandit795

from what I've seen, a few handfuls of these protests and the people that attend them are for ending the fed...if you ask should be the #1 reason any of these protests should be it is the root cause of many of our problems...

posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 06:50 PM
I wouldn't say "forget Wall Street", but you are quite correct as far as I see it - the money changers / masters are indeed the primary factor in the failure at hand.

If you want to know just how powerful those behind the monetary schemes are I suggest you run the figures:

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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:21 PM
I'm sure these have all been posted before, and many members here are likely already familiar with many or all of these videos, however should anyone have missed any of them I post them here as they are of the utmost relevance to the topic at hand. If you think they involve far too much of your time I can only reiterate what the OP (original poster) has said: the Federal Reserve is even far more to blame for the financial situation of our country (and it's core operations are equally to blame globally).

A five minute primer (poor video/audio quality, but brief):
G. Edward Griffin on the Federal Reserve System

And then on to the more lengthy productions, which will result in some information redundancy should you watch them all, so I recommend setting them up in a queue much like a course - stagger them in a fashion that allows you to watch them all without covering them all so quickly you become bored.

Money As Debt

Zeitgeist Part III - The Federal Reserve
(regardless of your stance on the rest of Zeitgeist dismiss your guilt by association fallacy, this piece is too accurate to dismiss)

The Money Masters

The more recent production by the same folks who produced The Money Masters,
The Secret of Oz

And if you don't mind a lecture,
The Creature From Jekyll Island (by G. Edward Griffin)

If you prefer to read, or supplement your studies with print:

War and Inflation by Lew Rockwell,

The Creature From Jekyll Island
by G. Edward Griffin (sorry, links of this type aren't working for me)

There are many more books on the matter, though more I am not familiar with.
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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:25 PM
You are correct. This is an article I read today.

This talks about the Federal Reserve and the revolt that needs to happen.

Street theater no longer is enough. The peasants are rallying their pitchforks, as they storm the Bastille; however, they got their GPS coordinates wrong. The correct address is 33 Liberty Street, New York, NY. That is the location of the dominate Federal Reserve temple. When the public finally comes to grips with the real cause of the unsustainable debt, they will understand that the private central banking system bears the ultimate redress for their sins against America and all humanity.

It further explains how they (Fed.) print money and then make money on it. Just to enrich themselves.

The important points, however, are as follows: this ingenious system is called fractional reserve banking; it creates debt for the sole purpose of enriching the banking class; it is a subtle form of theft; historically it was condemned as a form of usury.

This is really worth a read. There is a chart following the money created and how they make the money on it.
And not one citizen of the USA gets to avoid this. Not if you get a loan, pay interest on your mortgage, or cars or just about anything that requires money.

S&F for posting this thread.

posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:31 PM
it is a sickening reality that a certain "rate of foreclosure" (otherwise known as interest) is built-in to the money-as-debt instrument. in other words, failure is not a liability, but rather an inevitability, for a certain percent of individuals.

now, as sick as that is, it is a controllable variable which is intended to provide a certain stability. the reason that we are out of control and unstable is solely because of the banks.

as the gatekeepers, they are charged with making reasonable evaluations of risk and value which act as a system of checks and balances. unfortunately for us all, reasonability has been absent from wall street for more than a decade.

so, what was intended to be a controllable rate of failure has gone completely awry.

thus, the SOLE perpetrators of this crime are the financial institutions.

but I do not disagree that the DEBT INSTRUMENT is the root.

failure is inevitable ...I just don't think it was ever intended to get this bad.

posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:33 PM
The banks and the Fed OWN Wallstreet, so it it's all the same
according to the signs in the windows overlooking the protests They are the 1%ers ,so they're owning it!

Wallstreet is as good a place to start as any

posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 08:36 PM
More strong indication that the Occupy Wall Street movement is nothing but an instrument of the Globalists to gain more control and consolidate wealth.

The ruling elite, their banks and transnational corporations do not pay taxes [14], the little people do, as Leona Helmsely arrogantly noted. Increasing taxes on the “1 percent,” as the movement demands, to save the “99 percent,” will result in a further erosion of the middle class, as the elite know.

“The higher taxes may very well cause the smaller businesses to go out of business,” notes theCollateral Damage [15] blog. “They won’t have the economies of scale to compete with the bigger corporations, so what ends up happening is that the small business assets eventually get sold to the big corporations, usually for a fraction of what the assets are worth. So in effect, it ends up being a wealth transfer from the middle class to the super elite rich.”

If we look beyond the facile socialist rhetoric and examine who is funding and essentially running the Occupy Wall Street movement – the “liberal” foundations with the same globalist goal as their supposed ideological enemies on the so-called right (who defused the real Tea Party movement) – we realize that the movement is essentially another effort to colonize political opposition and render it ineffective and politically impotent.

The real movement, and the one posing a serious threat to the “1 percent,” the global elite, is calling for an end to the Federal Reserve, a return to the core principles of our once proud constitutional republic, and sound, honest money not controlled by the elite and the financial sector now tasked with taking down the economy and reducing America to a third-world wasteland.

Wall Street (George Soros) is the Force (and sponsor) behind Occupy Wall Street

posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 08:44 PM
reply to post by TheBandit795

I believe that with every recession the fed becomes a larger percentage of wall-street. Who do you think is buying all the tangible assets up when the "created" bubble bursts. Been quite a few recessions since 1913,

"The FED, buying successful corporations for pennies on the dollar every recession since 1913!!"

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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 11:03 PM
Wall street is just another game in the casino of the elite. The house always has the best odds.

posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 11:31 PM
The media insists that #occupywallst doesn't have a coherent message.

The media insists that the movement is about left vs right, socialism, or hand outs.

The media is wrong.

There is a coherent message.

It's not about left vs right, its about the world vs the whole corrupt system.

Those who we entrust with our money for its safekeeping should not gamble it away, while betting with their own money that they WILL lose ours!

We should not got to war in order to borrow money from the federal reserve, at interest, and put our countries into never ending debt.

There is a discussion about raising taxes on the rich, and while this is good, it is useless if the taxes we pay end up going as interest payments to the ultrarich.

The rich are not our enemies. The rich aren't even in the same class as our enemies.

The corporations are not our enemies, they employ us and pay the taxes that fund our commons.

The government are not our enemies. They are sick and weak from attacks and corruption and our apathy, engineered by the true enemy.

The multinational organizations that supersede countries, especially the international banks and their instruments the federal reserves are the cause and the benefit-ors of the crisis.

There will be more

Diogenes The 99

h t t p : / / d i o g e n e s t h e 9 9 . b l o g s p o t . c o m

posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 11:39 PM
reply to post by TheBandit795

I think that OWS is speaking out against the enter system, Fed reserve included. Not the whole financial sector is bad, but the elitism needs to stop.

Hell they have an entire party bought out, it's too bad that people that follow the GOP (and even a chunk of Dems) don't even realize it.

posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 11:44 PM
I need some help with understanding this graph,cause I see our problems started in 2007.
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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 11:54 PM
Ever heard the phrase "All Roads Lead To Rome"? Well, Rome is Wall Street with The Federal Reserve at the helm!

He who controls the purse controls the outcome. Media and Politicians both answer to them.

Take out the central head the body withers, collapses and dies!

They use their role as financiers to threaten, intimidate, harass with threats of economic crash, ruin, death threats and more then have the economic leverage capability to tell all of these companies who to hire, what to report on, what not to report on, what to slant, Notice how the commercials are dominated by energy, finance, politics, media, pharma, telecom, entertainment? That is their central core archstructure. The supreme collective are all the dominant families and groups of each.

Taken from The American hair metal quintet Queensryche's 1987 song from the legendary "Operation:Mindcrime" (which btw should be in every single person's record collection even if you aren't a fan of the genre, listen to the story, it's spot on to a 99.5% degree of certainty) "Speak"

"The rich control the government, the media, the law" Words we should've been listening to but couldn't be bothered that is now happening as this core item has caused every single thing wrong with this nation that's occurred in the last century!

Cheque out this, it's the most accurate flowchart detailing the overall architecture and Governance and a big majority of these companies listed are HQ'd right at, you guessed it!, Wall Street! :
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posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 12:00 AM

"The American Dream" .

This 30 minute animated video explains the "Federal" Reserve succinctly and entertainingly.

Wasn't able to embed it here. Great to share with nubies.

posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 12:05 AM

Originally posted by TheBandit795
IMO, the best remedy to defend yourself against this is not some protest but to take responsibility for your own life, become sovereign and to Internationalize Yourself.

More on that later on...

Lol, a person is under the state which is a form of sovereignty, now you put international on top of that, what kind of double speak is this?

Plz elaborate now as i see the EU just over a decade in it's existence already broke, how does that work for your internationalism factor?

Even Aristotle meant that the "State" had to be a small body in order to carry on.
And what in sam hill does it have to do with this post?

Thanks op, i too realize the ugly finger of blame should be put on its just due, but you have got to realize the Rothschilds and their first charter with America inter-married with the goldmans- sachs, etc,etc. So in a way it is the Federal Reserve, as well as Wall Street.

End result as long as we keep the Oligarchy in charge teaching idiot methodology to the masses nothing will ever change

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