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Originally posted by eleven44
THIS IS ABOUT CHANGE. THIS IS ABOUT LOVE. THIS IS ABOUT COMING TOGETHER
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Originally posted by tangonine
Originally posted by eleven44
THIS IS ABOUT CHANGE. THIS IS ABOUT LOVE. THIS IS ABOUT COMING TOGETHER
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Yeah, well, if the last 6000 years of human history is any indicator, peace and love don't get results. They get you dead.
Originally posted by tangonine
Originally posted by eleven44
THIS IS ABOUT CHANGE. THIS IS ABOUT LOVE. THIS IS ABOUT COMING TOGETHER
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Yeah, well, if the last 6000 years of human history is any indicator, peace and love don't get results. They get you dead.
Originally posted by FugitiveSoul
reply to post by SeekerofTruth101
How would you bring about change? You seem to have a good idea of a plan. How would you get these elite to do as the OWS wish?
Your peaceful rallies garner nothing but mockery from office windows, you take them to court and wait patiently to be fed scraps appeasing enough to make you believe you've won something, when truly they've done nothing but bought your allegiance, you take your message to the media and they spin it to seem like you have no concise voice. They are laughing at you. Any freedom you believe you have to fight these people is an illusion. If you want change, you are going to have to take it from them by force.
edit on 10-10-2011 by FugitiveSoul because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by eleven44
Take your money out of the banks.
Stop spending money at corporate stores and chains.
Support local farmers, local artists and local store owners.
Love thy neighbor: it will make them feel better (and more loved) in this world, which will thus make them be nicer to people, which will thus make them feel better and thus be nicer to other people, etc, etc. It's the Trickle Up theory.
Create your own job. Be an inventor. Be creative. Be an artist. Whatever you want to be, be it and create it and do it without corruption and with a dedicated service to helping others, not strictly to harboring profit.
Demand, peacefully, that local business' and companies use eco-friendly, sustainable resources. This will create more of a demand for companies that offer eco-friendly, sustainable resources, thus creating more jobs in that industry.
Originally posted by eleven44
Yeah, man, if only Jesus, MLK, John Lennon, Plato, etc., would have all just realized that too, I bet they would have stopped being Peaceful and Loving immediately. That way they could have lived longer, MLK and Lennon might even still be alive to this day! I mean, you wouldn't have a clue who they were nor would they have made any positive difference in the world...but, hey, at least they wouldn't have been killed!
Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
I really don't understand you Americans. You go on and on about taking down the fed, the Governments and all other manner of mis-haps but when someone actually does something about it, you moan and complain that this isn't what we wanted blah blah blah.
Are you really that scared of change?
ALS
But the corruption problem isn't limited to just the GOVERNMENT. It's pervasive throughout the CORPORATE and GOVERNMENT circles.
Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
Originally posted by Stan71
I would say it's a good start. I would guess to say that the protesters are using "Wall Street" as a symbol of what America has come too be known... Greedy. Weather it's government or corporate corruption it all comes down to money and GREED. Our politicians take money from corporations to push their agendas and policies while they sit back and rake in the money. I don't think Wall Street is entirely at fault. Our "elected" officials have allowed this to happen so they can get that campaign money for the next election. The whole system needs to be fixed.
1) Ban corporate lobbying.
2) Close the tax loopholes that allow corporations to pay next to nothing in taxes.
3) Penalize corporations that send our jobs overseas.
4) Fix the trade deficits with other countries.
5) And stop the BS with "to big to fail"... let them. If they can't make sound business decisions, they should go bankrupt.
I don't think the OWS movement is the way to go about it, but I aggree with EVERY ONE of your 1-5 topics above.
I've been a tea party supporter from the beginning. Both the tea party and OWS agree that the problem is corruption. I think it's corruption in GOVERNMENT that is the main problem, because of all of the laws that have benefitted their cronies.