Should there be a MAXIMUM wage?

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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:33 AM
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Seems like a simple way to end a lot of the worlds problems
And im not just talking about careers, even profits from business, stock market etc..any form of profit.
We should make it law that people can only take whats needed, nothing more. The rest can go to charity or helping the community.
We all know that one dollar for one person means one less dollar for another.
It would also make it easy to increase the minimum wage because companies would have more money that they need to give away!
What do you think?
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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:37 AM
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Simple answer; Yes.

I mean, some CEOs of these large banks that keep screwing people over are getting wayyyy more than ONE dollar more. More like 28 MILLION more...
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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:38 AM
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theres no logical reason at all to make super profits so there shouldnt be an argument against it

some people are making billions annualy..
that needs to stop
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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:39 AM
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There are better ideas and I am speaking from the left.
I KNOW many RIGHT leaning friends who will call this idea UNCONSTITUTIONAL but for different reasons than I.

I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH DAMN LAWS

Being a Liberal I have to say you should not cap the money anyone can possibly make. In principal and in fact I don't think it is a good idea. Sounds a little too socialist, even to me.

Laws should be used only to protect the public....Not to protect the public from outrage.

It is a very bad idea to try and solve all your problems by creating new laws.

There are many other ways to fix things and one should try all of them (and then some)...before you resort to creating yet another "law."
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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:41 AM
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Originally posted by ShortMemory

We should make it law that people can only take whats needed, nothing more.

We all know that one dollar for one person means one less dollar for another.

What do you think?


I think you wish to punish those who are the most intelligent, best educated, have the best connections and come from well established families.

The real problem is that wealth is not being distributed in an equitable manor. If the worker ants were compensated fairly for thier efforts they would have more money to pay taxes.

No there should not be a maximum wage, thier should be an equitable distribution of capital and a social services system that provides benefits to everyone in an equitable manor reguardless of thier ability to purchase said services.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:41 AM
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I agree with you 100%
Not only for fat bankers and those in industry but film stars and those overpaid sports stars too. Way overpaid for what they do, when you considr some people put their lives at risk on a daily basis for peanuts.

Yes, put a cap on salaries and especially bonuses.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:43 AM
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Originally posted by newcovenant
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Being a Liberal I have to say you should not cap the money anyone can possibly make either.

It should be made known and public however so people can decide if this is the type enterprise they want to support but I think it should be legal to pay whatever in wages, unless of course they are getting any public funds.
edit on 10-10-2011 by newcovenant because: I can't seem to see or spell anymore.

people would still be able to make more then they need, so whats the problem
if it means that everyone in the world can live properly and within their needs whats the problem?
you could actually increase the mimimum wage with this idea
so it would be better for everyone



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:46 AM
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big bad voodoo daddys say it best






posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:48 AM
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Originally posted by InformationAccount

Originally posted by ShortMemory

We should make it law that people can only take whats needed, nothing more.

We all know that one dollar for one person means one less dollar for another.

What do you think?


I think you wish to punish those who are the most intelligent, best educated, have the best connections and come from well established families.

The real problem is that wealth is not being distributed in an equitable manor. If the worker ants were compensated fairly for thier efforts they would have more money to pay taxes.

No there should not be a maximum wage, thier should be an equitable distribution of capital and a social services system that provides benefits to everyone in an equitable manor reguardless of thier ability to purchase said services.

punish? rich people have been punishing millions of people for years
its not punishing at all if they still have the money they 'need'.

this is an easy way to distribute wealth..and not just to the workers who would be able to get a pay rise but people all around the world

how can you distribute money equitably if people are taking billions of dollars away and not giving a cent back?

your argument makes no sense because your asking for exactly what this would give



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by InformationAccount


I think you wish to punish those who are the most intelligent, best educated, have the best connections and come from well established families.



It's funny. A friend of mine has a grandfather who was a Russian Scientist. He came to America and could not get a job in Science. He had to settle for being a janitor.

He went from prestige and tons of money, with great connections and was from an established family.... all the way to being a janitor for minimum wage.

To suggest that the difference between educated and ignorant, connected and disconnected, established or not, is money? Well, how ignorant of you.

That is all I have to say about that.

As for the suggestion of Max wage... Hmm...well,I can promise you that such a bill would never get passed.The lobbyists representing the 1% would see to that.

But I don't know...All I know is that the system is broken and it needs to be fixed.I admit, I am not the guy to fix it, because at this point, I don't know how. I have my fair share of ideas that would help, but all I can say on topic, is that the system is broken and something must be done.
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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by TheLoneArcher
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I agree with you 100%
Not only for fat bankers and those in industry but film stars and those overpaid sports stars too. Way overpaid for what they do, when you considr some people put their lives at risk on a daily basis for peanuts.

Yes, put a cap on salaries and especially bonuses.


This has always been a pet peeve of mine but I think this is a matter of society getting their priorities in order and doing the right thing. Not a good idea to try and legislate the right thing.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:53 AM
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Originally posted by ShortMemory

Originally posted by newcovenant
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Being a Liberal I have to say you should not cap the money anyone can possibly make either.

It should be made known and public however so people can decide if this is the type enterprise they want to support but I think it should be legal to pay whatever in wages, unless of course they are getting any public funds.
edit on 10-10-2011 by newcovenant because: I can't seem to see or spell anymore.

people would still be able to make more then they need, so whats the problem
if it means that everyone in the world can live properly and within their needs whats the problem?
you could actually increase the mimimum wage with this idea
so it would be better for everyone



This idea is crap. This is socialism.

Taking from the rich and giving to the poor.


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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:55 AM
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Originally posted by newcovenant

Originally posted by TheLoneArcher
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I agree with you 100%
Not only for fat bankers and those in industry but film stars and those overpaid sports stars too. Way overpaid for what they do, when you considr some people put their lives at risk on a daily basis for peanuts.

Yes, put a cap on salaries and especially bonuses.


This has always been a pet peeve of mine but I think this is a matter of society getting their priorities in order and doing the right thing. Not a good idea to try and legislate the right thing.

Your either a disinfo agent or seriously deluded
there is no reason what so ever for this not to be policy, it would be the best policy every put in place by any government
get off your high horse, to me your not a human if you cant comprehend the suffering of millions around the world because of a small percentage of selfish people



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:57 AM
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Originally posted by newcovenant

This has always been a pet peeve of mine but I think this is a matter of society getting their priorities in order and doing the right thing. Not a good idea to try and legislate the right thing.


If we never legislated the right thing, black people would be sitting in the back of the bus still...

Just saying.

Good night folks, off to bed.
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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:57 AM
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Originally posted by ShortMemory
We should make it law that people can only take whats needed, nothing more.



Well, you're going to have to define that a bit more before I could agree.

You dont NEED to go to the movies.
You dont NEED to go to that football game.
You dont NEED to buy that chocolate bar.
You dont NEED to go to a fancy restaurant once in a while.

Its a tough world where TPTB have passed laws saying you can only have what you NEED.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 03:58 AM
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Originally posted by newcovenant

Originally posted by ShortMemory

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by ShortMemory
 


Being a Liberal I have to say you should not cap the money anyone can possibly make either.

It should be made known and public however so people can decide if this is the type enterprise they want to support but I think it should be legal to pay whatever in wages, unless of course they are getting any public funds.
edit on 10-10-2011 by newcovenant because: I can't seem to see or spell anymore.

people would still be able to make more then they need, so whats the problem
if it means that everyone in the world can live properly and within their needs whats the problem?
you could actually increase the mimimum wage with this idea
so it would be better for everyone


In theory I love it. I want it. But what I want is not always "technically" legal or lawful.
I don't think this idea is either.

legal or lawful? well no because its not a law
thats what this thread is about, making it a law
just because the law says so doesnt make it right, there are hundreds of bogus laws!
this would help the entire world
please tell me one reason why someone should make any more then they need?



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by ShortMemory
We should make it law that people can only take whats needed, nothing more.



Well, you're going to have to define that a bit more before I could agree.

You dont NEED to go to the movies.
You dont NEED to go to that football game.
You dont NEED to buy that chocolate bar.
You dont NEED to go to a fancy restaurant once in a while.

Its a tough world where TPTB have passed laws saying you can only have what you NEED.

it doesnt have to be that low
i think 500,000 grand too 1 million

think about it some companies would be able to give unbeliably large pay rises to workers because they would have heaps of money to give away
and i think it would make it possible to raise the minimum wage

so everyone would be able to live a normal life and do things we dont techincly need



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 04:03 AM
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Precisely. What people /need/ is shelter, food, water, clothing, heat. Perhaps 500 extra dollars a month to enjoy a night out for dinner or a movie or to take a car trip into the Country.

And for shelter, food and clothing, I do not mean a million dollar home, Prada and Dolce & Gabanna clothing and 200 dollar steak dinners either. I mean homes where, if you have yourself, one bedroom. If you have a spouse, one bedroom. If you have a child, one bedroom per child aside from the main bedroom. Where I live in S Illinois, you can get a gorgeous house for 25,000 dollars.

Food? Walmart sells great food, as does Aldi's or Save a Lot, etc.
Clothing? Again. Target, Walmart, Resale shops, etc.

Life isn't about having a 2.5 million dollar home with chauffers to drive your $90,000 cars and getting your 500 dollar hairstyle every week and so on. Pitiful and ridiculous. And for those stupid actors on tv who bawwww about not getting 29 million per 30 minute episode? Go choke on a chicken bone, greedy.
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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 04:03 AM
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As pretty as this idea sounds, it's quite naive and simplistic.
Sure, it's be great if everyone made $50k-$100k a year regardless of whether they chose to work or not.
The people that didn't work would kill themselves off quickly from alcohol and drug use, and those that didn't would birth a new age of artistic explosion.

Putting a limited ceiling on monetary gains, however, doesn't give those who typically earn large salaries any incentive to do the best job they can. Why would anyone put themselves in a risk taking position when they can make the same income delivering the mail?
Why would anyone with a creative drive for ingenuity pinch off some world changing invention into the toilet bowl of limited returns when they can pack their bags, move to Russia, Taiwan, Australia, or any other part of the globe and sell their work for 10x or more than what they'd get at home here in a capped economy?

All the innovation, and people that do those high paying jobs will leave the country, taking their money and their ideas, and highly specialized skill sets with them, leaving us with a brain drain.

A sliding difficulty tax might work a little more efficiently where the higher the income that's made, the more it gets taxed.
Value also needs to be placed on charitable work, contributions, and sponsorships beyond the current system.

My opinion, of course.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by gimme_some_truth

Originally posted by InformationAccount


I think you wish to punish those who are the most intelligent, best educated, have the best connections and come from well established families.



It's funny. A friend of mine has a grandfather who was a Russian Scientist. He came to America and could not get a job in Science. He had to settle for being a janitor.

He went from prestige and tons of money, with great connections and was from an established family.... all the way to being a janitor for minimum wage.

To suggest that the difference between educated and ignorant, connected and disconnected, established or not, is money? Well, how ignorant of you.


It sounds like he was willing to work at a job that was beneath his abililites in order to be in a better place than he was before. But he did it anyways instead of collecting unemployment or being a bum.

Life isn't always fair or without bumps in the journey.

The rich have a head start on everyone. Usually they use it for selfish gain. What do you expect them to do? What would you do if you were in their spot?

The problem isn't them, the problem is YOU.

NO one wants to takes reponsibility for anything, NO one wants to work, NO one has a brain, NO one wants to _________ (Fill in the blank)

YOu want the truth?

The richest 1% wish that the other 99% would actually get mad enough to take a stand and force those in power to make a positive change in the world instead of watching tv or complaining.

How ignorant are you?
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