Originally posted by User8911
Agriculture is the best thing that has ever happen to make a solid human society.
It has enabled us to spend time on arts and technology which is a good thing.
- Their work week is short enough to make us drool in envy.
- They enjoy almost unbelievable egalitarianism
- The religious gasp at their high levels of sexual freedom, experimentation, and enjoyment.
- They're damn happy people, laughing freely way more than we do.
- Outside a division of labor, women have total social equality with men.
- They rarely resort to violence or war
- Strong social safety nets in most of their societies support the disabled, old, and in many cases, even the lazy.
- They usually live to be at least as old as we do
- Their health is more robust than ours, and they're frequently immune to diseases ravaging their sedentary neighbors. Their social lives are rich, and they have the free time to indulge themselves.
- With a few exceptions, their lifestyle lets them live in harmony with the earth, relying mostly on renewable resources, and keeping their numbers at a sustainable level.
- Their senses appear many times sharper than their own, and many seem curiously immune to extremes of temperature.
- Their strength often seems unbelievable.
- They intelligently use their time to create more productive environments that needs little care.
Originally posted by chrissiel123
reply to post by Q:1984A:1776
reproduce like jackrabbits? lol.
In Canada the average is 1.1 children per family. That isn't so bad. Some families have more, some have less. We are here to reproduce after all. I think couples having two children isnt too bad - it means that two people go into the marriage and two people come out. That is sustainability. Granted we are overpopulated, so for now 1.1 works better than 2. I don't think there should ever be a time or a reason to try to place limits on the ability of people to reproduce. It is unfair, will be abused - meaning the wealthy will find ways to have what they want, and the unconnected middle class will not. For evolution to work there needs to be equal opportunity. Trust me, when we reach a breaking point on the overpopulation scale, mother nature will naturally cull our numbers, with the fittest, smartest or strongest surviving. All will be fine.
Originally posted by Blue Shift
The worst thing human beings ever did was develop the capacity to love, and to define it as something good. Love will kill us all with overbreeding, overuse of natural resources, aggressive competition and conflict to ensure the health and safety of our closest loved ones, etc.
Love is the killer!
(I'm also very controversial. )
edit on 10-10-2011 by Blue Shift because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Q:1984A:1776
reply to post by DevolutionEvolvd
Truly, I never disagreed with that. How much of your meat actually comes from pastured farming though? I was speaking of the industrialization of the meat industry which constantly contaminates our water supply, and causes our food crops to become contaminated with bacteria such as E. Coli and Salmonella.
And also, keeping livestock complicates matters in the exact same way as the issue described in your OP.
Also, do you think that plants in their natural environment destroy the topsoil?
Did you even look into what permaculture is? I'm not trying to say that you are wrong about your ideas, I just think that you should find a middle ground. While both a true Vegan and a true Carnivore would quickly become very unhealthy and die from malnutrition, a more natural balance of animal protein/vegetables would serve to make us all more healthy... Much like that which you would find in a hunter/gatherer culture.
Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
While a purely carnivorous diet doesn't necessarily lead to death, I would have to agree with the rest of what you're saying. A mix of whole foods, both plant and animal...with as little processing as possible. The human body can function extremely well consuming many different diets..from a balanced/variety diet, to more exclusive diets (including carnivorous).
Kaczynski was born in Chicago, Illinois, where, as an intellectual child prodigy, he excelled academically from an early age. Kaczynski was accepted into Harvard University at the age of 16, where he earned an undergraduate degree, and later earned a PhD in mathematics from the University of Michigan. He became an assistant professor at the University of California, Berkeley at age 25, but resigned two years later.
In 1971, he moved to a remote cabin without electricity or running water, in Lincoln, Montana, where he lived as a recluse while learning survival skills in an attempt to become self-sufficient. He decided to start a bombing campaign after watching the wilderness around his home being destroyed by development. From 1978 to 1995, Kaczynski sent 16 bombs to targets including universities and airlines, killing three people and injuring 23. Kaczynski sent a letter to The New York Times on April 24, 1995 and promised "to desist from terrorism" if the Times or The Washington Post published his manifesto. In his Industrial Society and Its Future (also called the "Unabomber Manifesto"), he argued that his bombings were extreme but necessary to attract attention to the erosion of human freedom necessitated by modern technologies requiring large-scale organization.
He claims that revolution, unlike reform, is possible, and calls on sympathetic readers to initiate such revolution using two strategies: to "heighten the social stresses within the system so as to increase the likelihood that it will break down" and to "develop and propagate an ideology that opposes technology". He gives various tactical recommendations, including avoiding the assumption of political power, avoiding all collaboration with leftists, and supporting free trade agreements in order to bind the world economy into a more fragile, unified whole.
Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian self-admitted perpetrator of the July 22, 2011 bombing and massacre in Norway, wrote a manifesto in which large chunks of text were copied and pasted from the manifesto of Kaczynski, with certain terms substituted (e.g. replacing "leftists" with "cultural Marxists" and "multiculturalists").
Originally posted by yaluk
reply to post by ZIPMATT
woah woah woah over populated??
I have driven across texas many times and there is TONS of free range there. No one to be seen. On some stretches maybe a town with a gas station and a handful of people.