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'No papers, no water’: The sign denying basic services to Alabama’s illegal residents.

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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 06:01 PM
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"YAY! I just won 100 million dollars in the lottery....please post your address, so I can buy tickets for as many illegals that amount of money will buy...and ship them ALL to you!!! All solved...your problem now.

That is how ridiculous your arguments sound to me....."

> I don't get it. Who is narrating there me or you? And my whole argument is the (arbitrary) status of legal/illegal that countries/governments/individuals assign to people, and the rights it infers upon them. You seem to be missing that

Also, you're kinda reducing your fellow humans to the level of livestock right there
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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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You seem to be missing that the State of Alabama, is NOT in Scotland.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 06:17 PM
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I agree with all of you that think the illegals got to go, that they don't even have the right to breath our air, drink our water, take our jobs, use our healthcare, cause their criminals!! Sure I'm a Christian man and it makes me a complete hypocrite to have these views but what the hell did Jesus know, he was probably a hippie who smoked weed before he said such nonsensical things like "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Oh well I'm sure we will find some excuse to get all these brown skinned people the hell out of our country! Amen!!



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 06:17 PM
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Hey Scotland has similar laws to the USA limiting immigration. Those piss me off just as much. I still don't understand why it is that anyone thinks they can control who goes where. This is my country, you can't come in - that sort of thing. Why is it that we allow ourselves to be divided by the lines on the map?



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 06:19 PM
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Mate I'm not a Christian, but I do take some of the values of Christianity and uphold them. You pretend you're a Christian but you don't have any of the values. Get a grip



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by 00bil
reply to post by Destinyone
 


Hey Scotland has similar laws to the USA limiting immigration. Those piss me off just as much. I still don't understand why it is that anyone thinks they can control who goes where. This is my country, you can't come in - that sort of thing. Why is it that we allow ourselves to be divided by the lines on the map?


Oh, I get it....you'll fix the problems in Scotland, by fixing the U.S. first......



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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nope unfortunately i don't have the power to fix the problems in any of the countries, its just my opinion on the way the world should work



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 06:27 PM
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Don't be so hard on yourself for the christian angle, I'm no christian but I do believe there is great merit in the words "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
Even christ would have known that there is a time to get off your buddies sofa and find your own home.
If they come through the legal channels then I am all for it, but illegals cause a lag on the system in many areas, and right now we need to fortify our home.
Hard times are on the way.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by 00bil
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nope unfortunately i don't have the power to fix the problems in any of the countries, its just my opinion on the way the world should work


Then, I send you a shooting star, and the hopes that your wishes come true.

Other than that, I'm stuck with the reality of what this thread is about. I'm damn tired of my taxes supporting a better than my lifestyle, to illegal people in my country. If I move to Scotland, not legally mind you...will I get free healthcare, welfare, food stamps, subsidized housing? If not, tell me why not.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 06:30 PM
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Well good for you...lol...those "most tribes" were conned into signing away their land and the rest were forced off.If you are Tsalagi you should be ashamed for makeing such a statement.But this is off topic..and for the record, my "moronic" statement was valid in stateing that the original immigrants to this country used the same and worse tactics to get here. I dont agree with makeing someone comfortable in a country they are illegaly in when legal citizens are starving and homeless..but I think it is horrid to devalue life over physical things...I draw the line there.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 06:33 PM
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I think it will fail, they will have peaple take that in when thinking of moving there & when the pop. drops they will retract the law IMO



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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Let's see you walk into any utility company, try to open an account without some form of I.D. Even a U.S. Citizen must supply some type of valid I.D. to open an account for water, electricity...


I beg to differ. I was abel to CALL my power company and get services turned on without ever having to show ANY ID.

My thoughts are this..... I don't agree with illegal immigration but at the same time I think there are better ways to go about handling the issue; denying someone a basic life necessity isn't what the US should be about!



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:17 PM
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The real kicker is the farmers in Alabama are complaining because they are losing their workforce because of this...check it out... Alabama Immigration Laws Causing Global Outcry



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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I quite liked the closing paragraph.



The Common Sense Conspiracy ironic moment of the day: Alabama’s farmers are complaining because so many of their workers are packing up and leaving the country. It seems that illegal immigrants, incidentally, make up a huge percentage of the agricultural workforce in the state. I’m sure each and every one of those farmers was paying their illegals fair wages with benefits, right? Of course, they’re outraged. They just lost the keys to their sweatshop in the name of border control.


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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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Why is this so hard to understand,states have every right to do what ever is LEGAL to stop the hand out freeloaders,just like they do to people that don't pay there water bills.
You make this look like illegals can't have water at all,but thats the way you get mindless people to agree with you.
Illegals don't have rights in any country they are not a citizen in just like Americans don't have any rights in other countrys if we were there illegaly.
All these arguments like this are a joke and frankly make you look the fool that you are to belive that anybody with a brain or not an illegal belives anything you have to say.


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posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by jaws1975
 


Don't be so hard on yourself for the christian angle, I'm no christian but I do believe there is great merit in the words "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
Even christ would have known that there is a time to get off your buddies sofa and find your own home.
If they come through the legal channels then I am all for it, but illegals cause a lag on the system in many areas, and right now we need to fortify our home.
Hard times are on the way.


Thanks for your support, while I'm being honest how awesome would it be instead if we had 30 million illegal Norwegians? We would be making laws so they couldn't leave the state! Am I wrong?



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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The problem is simple. They are "illegally" in the USA. Get legal & get you some services. Stay illegal & i hope each and every damn state does the same thing if not more. Enforce the laws we have. And i do believe for the most of the illegals that came from Or thru Mexico. Pretty much walked their arse's thru a desert to get here.

Option (two) go to Walmart and buy it.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by 00bil
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"As someone said to another poster many pages back...:you have no skin in this game".

You are not sitting in the same position I am...watching my taxes, I pay mind you...being used to house, feed, give unlimited health benefits, and many other "perks" to illegal people...while I have to pay for all those things I want in my life. PLUS, subsidize them.



Yeah, you subsidize them, while they subsidize you. So, who is winning?

They lower the cost of building houses and picking fruit. You get to buy cheap house and cheap food.

I say kick the suckers out, let the prices rise to their proper levels, then hear the citizens scream about un-affordability index for basic cost of living.

Americans refuse to work for the low wages the undocumented accept, that's the only reason the illegals are here.

Americans prefer not to work, and accept government assistance instead. The undocumented don't get those food stamps.

Carry on trucking. Alabama is headed out of the frying pan....you know the rest.









posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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Services that you pay for are not rights.........



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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Um what government assistance are you talking about? Either your very misled or you dont live in the US



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