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Originally posted by Sunlionspirit
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by JBA2848
Oh right, we must follow European style says the Oracle Barack
The Occupiers are mostly Big govt Nanny Staters as far as I can see. Even the Ron Paul people have to educate them. They are demanding their debts forgiven, the ERA (which failed already every time it's introduced), and a bunch of other socialist stuff.
Then there's the Unions. You clearly are for Big Labor. Big Labor is a tool for communism. Trumka is calling for World economic taxes. Why do you want more taxes? It must because you would be on the receiving end of taxes or you would never call for it.edit on 9-10-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
why always talk about taxes here and taxes there ??? in each system you will have to pay taxes, but EVERYBODY has to pay them fairly !! not only the middle class and the poor !!!
understand or no ??
have to explain ?
EVERYBODY ok ? the rich pay nearly nothing, ok ? the 1 % pay less than my retired Mom !
so, taxes always existed, just fight for good distribution and talk about the system in the background !!!
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by Sunlionspirit
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by JBA2848
Oh right, we must follow European style says the Oracle Barack
The Occupiers are mostly Big govt Nanny Staters as far as I can see. Even the Ron Paul people have to educate them. They are demanding their debts forgiven, the ERA (which failed already every time it's introduced), and a bunch of other socialist stuff.
Then there's the Unions. You clearly are for Big Labor. Big Labor is a tool for communism. Trumka is calling for World economic taxes. Why do you want more taxes? It must because you would be on the receiving end of taxes or you would never call for it.edit on 9-10-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
why always talk about taxes here and taxes there ??? in each system you will have to pay taxes, but EVERYBODY has to pay them fairly !! not only the middle class and the poor !!!
understand or no ??
have to explain ?
EVERYBODY ok ? the rich pay nearly nothing, ok ? the 1 % pay less than my retired Mom !
so, taxes always existed, just fight for good distribution and talk about the system in the background !!!
We are already in a Progressive income tax system, which means that businesses and large corporations already pay more than their share. Apparently you do not know what a Progressive Income Tax is. It is when the more money you make, the higher your rate of tax goes.
Progressive Income Tax is communistic in nature. It goes right along with Marxist philosophy.
What good is it to raise taxes on corporations and then have them raise the price of their product to cover the tax, then you pay higher at the register. See how that works?
The Warren Buffets of the world will never pay higher tax because they hide their wealth in tax shelters. Buffet knew this when he made that ridiculous claim he wants to pay higher taxes. What a darn liar and a sheister he is. It is the sin of ommission. He failed to tell you the whole truth. He can jolly well write a check to the govt if he feels so generous, but the fact is he didn't even pay the taxes he owed.edit on 9-10-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by JonoEnglish
If you were a TRUE Christian, you'd reject money.
I can imagine Jesus charging a dollar a fish, 50 cents for a loaf and $100 for a healing. (not)
Jesus would have been a socialist, spreading the wealth. (which I'm all for being a leftie)
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Ernest Ezra Mandel, also known by various pseudonyms such as Ernest Germain, Pierre Gousset, Henri Vallin, Walter (5 April 1923 - 20 July 1995), was a revolutionary Marxist theorist.
After 1946 World Congress of the Fourth International, Mandel was elected into the leadership of the International Secretariat of the Fourth International. In line with its policy, he joined the Belgian Socialist Party where he was a leader of a militant socialist tendency, becoming editor of the socialist newspaper La Gauche (and writing for its Flemish sister publication, Links), a member of the economic studies commission of the General Federation of Belgian Labour and an associate of the Belgian syndicalist André Renard. He and his comrades were expelled from the Socialist Party not long after the general strike in 1960-1961 Winter General Strike for opposing its coalition with the Christian Democrats and its acceptance of anti-strike legislation.
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
Originally posted by JonoEnglish
If you were a TRUE Christian, you'd reject money.
I can imagine Jesus charging a dollar a fish, 50 cents for a loaf and $100 for a healing. (not)
Jesus would have been a socialist, spreading the wealth. (which I'm all for being a leftie)
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That is the biggest load of crap I have heard in the last week.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Sunlionspirit
Do not try to convince me you know something about Marxism when you are supporting a group of people who are daily calling for socialist stuff. You must have your ears plugged thinking they are all really Ron Paul Libertarians out there. They are not. They are being led by the nose by Soros Operatives.
When the Occupiers are calling for direct democracy, do NOT try to convince me it's not a marxist plot under way.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Sunlionspirit
Stop being such a pompous grass!!!!
Did you not hear me say the wealthiest of the bunch will NEVER pay because they hide their wealth? Making the middle class pay more is all that will happen. You are a very rude person and uninformed.
Oh yah, and thanks for posting the rantings of a Marxist theorist
Ernest Ezra Mandel, also known by various pseudonyms such as Ernest Germain, Pierre Gousset, Henri Vallin, Walter (5 April 1923 - 20 July 1995), was a revolutionary Marxist theorist.
After 1946 World Congress of the Fourth International, Mandel was elected into the leadership of the International Secretariat of the Fourth International. In line with its policy, he joined the Belgian Socialist Party where he was a leader of a militant socialist tendency, becoming editor of the socialist newspaper La Gauche (and writing for its Flemish sister publication, Links), a member of the economic studies commission of the General Federation of Belgian Labour and an associate of the Belgian syndicalist André Renard. He and his comrades were expelled from the Socialist Party not long after the general strike in 1960-1961 Winter General Strike for opposing its coalition with the Christian Democrats and its acceptance of anti-strike legislation.
en.wikipedia.org...
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Originally posted by Sunlionspirit
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Sunlionspirit
Do not try to convince me you know something about Marxism when you are supporting a group of people who are daily calling for socialist stuff. You must have your ears plugged thinking they are all really Ron Paul Libertarians out there. They are not. They are being led by the nose by Soros Operatives.
When the Occupiers are calling for direct democracy, do NOT try to convince me it's not a marxist plot under way.
listen : I have it all very open !!! my eyes, my ears, etc etc ... but not my *ss because I do not want to be raped in my back by the bankers and their corporate gangsters !!!
that is bad talk, isn't it ?
but it is true, go outside and talk to the OWS people up there ! open your system and listen and come back to talk a bit more intelligent .... marxism, communism, socialism, what does it care ??? we want a HUMAN world with natural HUMAN food ( monsanto delicious food !!! ) and no more oil spill because of no security control and greedy $$$$ corporations etc etc ... ok ?
do you know what direct democracy means ?? means every one can vote for everything and dismiss any politician that does not do what he was voted for ! on each echelon ! the city power, the state power, the village power etc etc .. why do you not like it ?edit on 9-10-2011 by Sunlionspirit because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by Sunlionspirit
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Sunlionspirit
Do not try to convince me you know something about Marxism when you are supporting a group of people who are daily calling for socialist stuff. You must have your ears plugged thinking they are all really Ron Paul Libertarians out there. They are not. They are being led by the nose by Soros Operatives.
When the Occupiers are calling for direct democracy, do NOT try to convince me it's not a marxist plot under way.
listen : I have it all very open !!! my eyes, my ears, etc etc ... but not my *ss because I do not want to be raped in my back by the bankers and their corporate gangsters !!!
that is bad talk, isn't it ?
but it is true, go outside and talk to the OWS people up there ! open your system and listen and come back to talk a bit more intelligent .... marxism, communism, socialism, what does it care ??? we want a HUMAN world with natural HUMAN food ( monsanto delicious food !!! ) and no more oil spill because of no security control and greedy $$$$ corporations etc etc ... ok ?
do you know what direct democracy means ?? means every one can vote for everything and dismiss any politician that does not do what he was voted for ! on each echelon ! the city power, the state power, the village power etc etc .. why do you not like it ?edit on 9-10-2011 by Sunlionspirit because: (no reason given)
It does matter if they are talking Marxism. That is the Lie of serpents that Marxism can be a great thing, if only you just listen to them and let them be part of the dialogue....hahaha
The Serpent in the garden told Eve, "You Shall not SURELY die if you eat this forbidden fruit"
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Sunlionspirit
I never needed the Tea Party to know what Marxism is and what it isn't.
Let me tell you something. I listened to lectures on Marxism and Hegelian dialectics long ago, in 1980, I listened to Antony Sutton and his many writings. I understand what is happening here. Enough of your telling me that Marxism is going to bring the Utopian Society that will fix things and fix the evil Capitalism.
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Originally posted by Sunlionspirit
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Sunlionspirit
I never needed the Tea Party to know what Marxism is and what it isn't.
Let me tell you something. I listened to lectures on Marxism and Hegelian dialectics long ago, in 1980, I listened to Antony Sutton and his many writings. I understand what is happening here. Enough of your telling me that Marxism is going to bring the Utopian Society that will fix things and fix the evil Capitalism.
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god damned, I told you I was for the capitalist system because it is the best !!! cann't you read ??
but I am against the neo-capitalist system, the one that has killed real capitalism and it is a fact that the marxists did understand the reasons why this system has become evil ......
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Sunlionspirit
Don't bother bringing my age into this? So, I must be VERY old. More pompous grassiness from you. What if I tell you I am a VERY OLD SOUL and this has nothing to do with chronological age.
This is not about being old-fashioned. Marxism was never right from the start. Marxism predates my chronological age anyway.
Even Karl Marx got his own philosophy screwed up. Oh yes he also had a MAID and I hear he also attended a Satanic secret society.edit on 9-10-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by JBA2848
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
You think taxes are being paid at a rate depending on how much you make by the rich? You don't know anything about paying corporate taxes do you. They pay taxes on a k1 profit share avoiding all the taxes you would normally pay with a pay check. Thats why they avoid getting a pay check for large amounts. Get a small pay check and have large amounts taken out of it then save the bulk of what you make for your K1 profit share where you pay minimum taxes at the end of the year. And just so you know I did not bing up taxes til now. I brught up many other issues you don't seem to want to look at.