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My view on Anti Semitism.

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posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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I know that Zionism is bad but I don't think it is fair for the Anti Semites Neo Nazis and the or the Jew Haters to blame all of the World's Problems on the Jews they blame one religion one ethnic group or one ethnicity for everything that goes bad they use the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to make everything look like a Jewish Conspiracy or they may blame a Zionist Conspiracy in my view the real enemy of the people is not Jews the enemy are the New World Order Elites of all races of all religions of all nations there are Rich Jews Poor Jews and there are Working Class Jews would anyone agree with my view on Anti Semitism ? I know of Anti Semites like David Duke if you say there are powerful Rich Gentiles who do bad things too he would say that the Gentiles in power are just Puppets of the Jews or the Puppets of the Zionists. I just think saying every powerful Gentile who is evil is a Puppet of the Jews is wrong.



Lenin on anti-semitism



This speech by Lenin, from 1919, shows how the Bolsheviks attacked the problem of age-old Russian anti-semitism after the workers' revolution of 1917.





"Anti-semitism means spreading enmity towards the Jews. When the accursed Tsarist monarchy was living its last days it tried to incite ignorant workers and peasants against the Jews. The Tsarist police, in alliance with the landlords and capitalists, organised pogroms against the Jews. The landowners and capitalists tried to divert the hatred of the workers and peasants who were tortured by want against the Jews. In other countries, too, we often see the capitalists fomenting hatred against the Jews in order to blind the workers, to divert their attention from the real enemy of the working people, capital...

"It is not the Jews who are the enemies of the working people. The enemies of the workers are the capitalists of all countries. Among the Jews there are working people, and they form the majority. They are our brothers who, like us, are oppressed by capital; they are our comrades in the struggle for socialism. Among the Jews there are kulaks, exploiters and capitalists, just as there among the Russians and among people of all nations. The capitalists strive to sow and foment hatred between workers of different faiths, different nations and different races. Those who do not work are kept in power by the power and strength of capital.

"Rich Jews, like rich Russians, and the rich in all countries, are in alliance to oppress, crush, rob and disunite the workers.

"Shame on accursed Tsarism which tortured and persecuted the Jews. Shame on those who foment hatred towards the Jews, who foment hatred towards other nations. "Long live the fraternal trust and fighting alliance of the workers of all nations in the struggle to overthrow capital."



archive.workersliberty.org...




posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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People need to realize that the majority of people against Zionism are not against Judaism. Zionists use accusations of anti-Semitism to silence the critics of Zionist actions.

Another common misconception I see quite often is that people are not aware who the real Semites actually are. One must learn the definition of Semitism before they can have a proper view on anti-Semitism.

People have misunderstood the difference between anti Jew and anti Zionist for way too long. The anti-Semitism card is one of the most powerful tools in the Zionist's arsenal. I know there are bigoted people out there who hate Jews, but they are a small minority. The anti-Semite card doesn't work any more. Only ignorant people use this unjust accusation when criticism of Israeli actions are made public.
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posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by mikejohnson2006


"It is not the Jews who are the enemies of the working people. The enemies of the workers are the capitalists of all countries. Among the Jews there are working people, and they form the majority. They are our brothers who, like us, are oppressed by capital; they are our comrades in the struggle for socialism. Among the Jews there are kulaks, exploiters and capitalists, just as there among the Russians and among people of all nations. The capitalists strive to sow and foment hatred between workers of different faiths, different nations and different races. Those who do not work are kept in power by the power and strength of capital.

"Rich Jews, like rich Russians, and the rich in all countries, are in alliance to oppress, crush, rob and disunite the workers.



Hey, awesome quote!


And I agree that the anti-semitism card is the most powerful weapon of the zionists...........
What is unbelievable is that people actually embrace that line of thinking and wont accept, for example, any critic towards the state of Israel, shouting anti-semitism all the time, while Israel destroys everyday the honor of the Jewish people....
S & F



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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Most of the Americans are anti-Semitic. Muslims are a Semitic people as well, same as the Jews.

A large number of Americans have a lot of hatred for the Muslims and their part of the world. This makes USA a very anti-Semitic country.
We're not alone though, seems the UK and France are in the same boat with us.

Oh and your argument that people of the world blame Jews for everything is a load of crappola. Sure there are many people who disagree with the terror and the shady dealings of a Zionist government, but never would I refuse a date with a pretty Israeli girl.


My political views on a corrupt and murderous government has nothing to do with antisemitism or anti-Judaism. Nice try though.

Khar



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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Hate to break it to you but the anti-semite neo nazis ARE the zionists.

Let's break it down for you

Anti-semite: against Semitic people, Palestinians are Semitic people, the zionists are against them.

Neo Nazi: Zionists funded Hitler, which is why both the Nazis and the Zionist Jews wanted a world Jewish ghetto and the holocaust gave a pretext for mass migration of Jews into Israel. And this information can be found on the true torah Jews against Zionism website, so don't think of saying it is anti-semitic because the real Jews are the ones that believe it. It's like calling a 9/11 truther against the victim's families when the truth movement was started by the victim's families.

And the people who blame it all on Jews are intentionally injecting racism into the debate as a counter smear tactic to deride the truth and prevent people from discussing it. It's a school yard childish tactic and it shouldn't affect someone's pursuit of the truth.

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posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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It's just a handy excuse really.

Hardcore conspiracy theorists who think the Moon is made of cheese (with the celestial body also being on the grassy knoll when Kennedy got shot and flying the planes into the World Trade Center to boost sales of cheddar) use their blatant racism against Jews because it's pretty much frowned upon to blame black people but they're worried about Middle Eastern looking people blowing them up even if not all people from the area who follow Judaism or Islam are like that.

It's just a form of racism within the conspiracy world that is actually applauded and encouraged is what it is.



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 10:18 PM
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There is a big difference between :

1. Hating all Jews

and

2. Hating extremist jews who commit or encourage genocide because of an extremist belief (zionists)

Anti zionism is not anti-semetic

Plain and simple



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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I suppose all the writing of the past two centuries containing the word antisemitim were against the Muslims then. Yes?

I suppose the debate of gay rights refers to the rights of happy people too.

Let's call a spade a spade and defer to the common usage and etymology, instead of trying to sugar-coat and gloss over.



 
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posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by Magnum007

. . .
2. Hating extremist jews


There are extremists form every subset of humanity.

Where is the outrage about them?


who commit or encourage genocide


Genocide, eh? The population of the "victims" is doubling every twenty years.

FUnny how these evil people can take over the world, but not do a genocide correctly.


because of an extremist belief (zionists)


Zionism - support of the self-determination of the Jewish people in a sovereign Jewish national homeland.

Wow that is an EXTREME belief



Anti zionism is not anti-semetic

Plain and simple


There is quite a fine-line, and many people love to hug that line. On top of that, many like to cross over it, only to try and save face by claiming they were talking about "Zionists," not Jews.



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 10:49 PM
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". . . You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is God's own truth.

"Antisemitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti-Zionist is inherently antisemitic, and ever will be so.

"Why is this? You know that Zionism is nothing less than the dream and ideal of the Jewish people returning to live in their own land. The Jewish people, the Scriptures tell us, once enjoyed a flourishing Commonwealth in the Holy Land. From this they were expelled by the Roman tyrant, the same Romans who cruelly murdered Our Lord. Driven from their homeland, their nation in ashes, forced to wander the globe, the Jewish people time and again suffered the lash of whichever tyrant happened to rule over them.

"The Negro people, my friend, know what it is to suffer the torment of tyranny under rulers not of our choosing. Our brothers in Africa have begged, pleaded, requested--DEMANDED the recognition and realization of our inborn right to live in peace under our own sovereignty in our own country.

"How easy it should be, for anyone who holds dear this inalienable right of all mankind, to understand and support the right of the Jewish People to live in their ancient Land of Israel. All men of good will exult in the fulfilment of God's promise, that his People should return in joy to rebuild their plundered land.

This is Zionism, nothing more, nothing less.

"And what is anti-Zionist? It is the denial to the Jewish people of a fundamental right that we justly claim for the people of Africa and freely accord all other nations of the Globe. It is discrimination against Jews, my friend, because they are Jews. In short, it is antisemitism.

"The antisemite rejoices at any opportunity to vent his malice. The times have made it unpopular, in the West, to proclaim openly a hatred of the Jews. This being the case, the antisemite must constantly seek new forms and forums for his poison. How he must revel in the new masquerade! He does not hate the Jews, he is just 'anti-Zionist'!

"My friend, I do not accuse you of deliberate antisemitism. I know you feel, as I do, a deep love of truth and justice and a revulsion for racism, prejudice, and discrimination. But I know you have been misled--as others have been--into thinking you can be 'anti-Zionist' and yet remain true to these heartfelt principles that you and I share.

Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--make no mistake about it."

From M.L. King Jr., "Letter to an Anti-Zionist Friend," Saturday Review_XLVII (Aug. 1967), p. 76.
Reprinted in M.L. King Jr., "This I Believe: Selections from the Writings of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."


Or perhaps he was just a Zionist as well.



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 12:28 AM
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So many people say they hate Zionism, then they point out who is Jewish in the media. Are all rich/powerful Jews automatically Zionist? If so, why do they promote the Palestinian side of the story at all?



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 11:39 AM
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zionist policy is clear about taking Palestinian land at all cost, including the very low cost of goyim lives, to give land to "god's chosen ones" the jews...

This policy goes against normal jewish views which are peaceful and inclusive. Naten-yahooo is a crazy, schizophrenic, xenophobic, and paranoid idiot who is a great zionist spokesperson. He represents zionists very well and their ideology.

This is what I hate about israel and the zionist regime... it's not wrong to point out the idiocies of a certain extremist portion of a populace... zionists are the jewish version of islamic terrorists... there I said it, zionists are terrorists... Jews aren't.



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