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OP/ED: Banned Books and The Loss of Free Thinkers

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posted on Aug, 28 2004 @ 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

which is more "harmful" to a young person, glorifying violence (books that are not challenged) or books dealing with sexual relationships (often challenged and banned)?


In the case of the trilogy, couldn't one argue that it glorifies sexual violence?

[edit on 28-8-2004 by loam]




posted on Aug, 28 2004 @ 10:44 PM
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20. Earths Children (Series) by Jean M. Auel

I have this entire Freaking series! It is a great series if anyone has a few hours a day to read. They are normally 700-900 pages long.

And some, like the Anne Rice books, in a public library should not be banned. They are a little, raw, but still good books.

I have read Of Mice and Men, To Kill a Mockingbird, Lord of the Flies, and of course James and the Giant Peach. All required in school. They are great works of writing, why ban them?

And last, but not least, Waldo. What do they have against Waldo?



posted on Aug, 28 2004 @ 10:45 PM
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Bingo! I've got a call. See Ya.



posted on Aug, 28 2004 @ 10:47 PM
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RANT; I'll give you 10/1 on the Jews, but I've got my irony money on the egalitarians.



posted on Aug, 28 2004 @ 11:21 PM
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Maybe it just comes down to issues with the people who purchase and propagate literature having issues with their sexuality and self image! Do not forget we still have a whole generation raised and schooled under the catholic and protestant itinerary.



posted on Aug, 28 2004 @ 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by kegs
RANT; I'll give you 10/1 on the Jews, but I've got my irony money on the egalitarians.




???????? WTF are you talking about?



posted on Aug, 28 2004 @ 11:56 PM
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Lol, it was a joke man. Look at Rants last post.



posted on Aug, 29 2004 @ 12:00 AM
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As tasteless as Rants post was, it has some (very slight) basis in the truth.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Aug, 29 2004 @ 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by HowardRoark
As tasteless as Rants post was, it has some (very slight) basis in the truth.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



Kind of misread the emoticon there I suppose.


I think all stereotyping and blame gaming is bunk when the only culprit for censorship is ignorance...not race, creed or political affiliation. Ignorance is an EOE.



posted on Aug, 29 2004 @ 02:02 AM
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It happens when someone thinks their opinion is more important than anyone elses. No one is more intelligent, moral, superior than anyone else [regretfully including myself]. I think i can accept a certain amount of restrictions in the actions one can take, but to limit in any way the freedom within our minds violates what we are as a species. We are the species of imagination, without that i don't believe we would be anymore than the chimpanzees.

Jefferson:"I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
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posted on Aug, 29 2004 @ 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by Valhall
OH MY GAWD!

22. A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine LEngle

I will not even tell my daughter of this...
Madeleine L'Engle is her favorite author...


I enjoyed that book as well. But my favorite as a kid was SE Hinton's - The Outsiders, which is also on the list. I immediately identifed with Ponyboy and his love of Robert Frost's - Nature's First Green is Gold. I guess the Curtis boys are just a bad influence on todays youth.


Whatever the reason - whether it be religion, PC, personal, etc. to prevent others from reading these books and drawing their own conclusions is simply wrong.



posted on Aug, 29 2004 @ 06:08 AM
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My father once spend a night in jail because someone told the police he had a banned book, but that was in the 50s in Portugal, then a dictatorship, a time when one of most powerful men of the country said that the people only needed to know how to sign their name, reading was dangerous.

After the revolution that ended that dictatorship, one of the first things to be abolished was the censorship.



posted on Aug, 29 2004 @ 08:14 AM
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I am missing somthing, can you still buy the books? What happen to the freedom's that we are so use to.

You cant read something? Because it says Nigger to many times? Why was of Mice and Men banned.

This kind of thing is getting old fast.



posted on Aug, 29 2004 @ 09:37 AM
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CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF; OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, OR OF THE PRESS; OR THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE PEACEABLY TO ASSEMBLE, AND TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR A REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES."

"Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." --Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas

Read why



posted on Aug, 29 2004 @ 10:07 AM
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The Handmaids Tale by Margaret Atwood?? It's in the dystopian stream, an excellent book and

# The Giver by Lois Lowry?!

The Giver is essentially a Brave New World for the pre-teen crowd... it's an important book, and these themes need to be explored.

Bridge to Terabithia...
Another important book for the pre-teen age group.

Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech. Benjamin Franklin



posted on Aug, 29 2004 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by SpittinCobra
I am missing somthing, can you still buy the books? What happen to the freedom's that we are so use to.

You cant read something? Because it says Nigger to many times? Why was of Mice and Men banned.

This kind of thing is getting old fast.


You can get these books, it's just that some libraries, in some areas refuse to carry them for a variety of stupid reasons.

I remember as a grammar school kid when some parents complained about the Judy Blume books because they dealt with "real life issues." The school district pulled them out of the school libraries. Funny thing was, I had never heard of Judy Blume, but the minute someone said I couldn't read it I asked my mom to get me one. That book got passed around by me and my friends that entire school year. We all became huge Blume fans. A little irony that holds true today. Tell someone that they can't do or read something and they will be sure to prove you wrong.



posted on Aug, 29 2004 @ 02:06 PM
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Hey, like in Harry Potter, the magazine or whatever was banned, so everyone read it.(I know to old for that series)

But yes, to restrict freedom of speech is to restrict thought. The thought police will get you!



posted on Aug, 29 2004 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by SpittinCobra
I am missing somthing, can you still buy the books? What happen to the freedom's that we are so use to.

You cant read something? Because it says Nigger to many times? Why was of Mice and Men banned.

It was my impression that these books are the top 100 books that are complained about. Books that people want to ban, not necessarily that they are banned.
Almost all of these titles are available in the Library I worked at.



posted on Aug, 30 2004 @ 12:39 AM
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Attacked as "obscene and pornographic," and said to contain "language and stories that are inappropriate for children of any age," including tales of incest and murder. "There are more than three hundred examples of 'obscenities' in the book."

Guess what book that was ... yes, its The Bible :shk:

www.bloodletters.com...



posted on Aug, 30 2004 @ 12:52 AM
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Well,

I work for the Metropolitan Library Service of greater Chicago (A recent combination of the old SLS and CPS library system)... and so I feel that I am qualified to say a few words here that may damage the thrust of this op/ed piece...

This list is not one of books that have banned throughout the United States. It is not one of books that have been banned throughout entire states. It is one of books that have been banned either in individual schools or individual school districts within recent history. To be very specific, here, it is NOT a list of nationally banned books... it is a list of books that have been banned for a variety of reasons at one time or another.

And when I say "banned"... I really mean "not purchased". These are usuallly books that have not been replaced by a school library because the local school board complained about them.

Now... to break things down a bit, these books are usually not "banned" because they attack America or popular American beliefs. These books are often banned because they have words like 'Nigger' within the text.

So... and I hope I've been clear... there IS NOT a mass banning of books going on within the US. There is, however, a situation where local school boards ban books (at individual schools) because they use offensive language.




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