reply to post by SeleneLux
reply to post by skunkmunky
Lack of Compassion? So because I dare ask the question, why did they not strike? I am being offensive? Because I say Guiliani is not the only one to
blame? Because I asked why didn't their Union strike? I also never once stated I was anti-Union. Some of you guys are worst than Tea Party
Back to the questions at hand,
So your life could be at risk without proper equiptment, No unions that I know of that work in or on dangerous fields goes out to work without
equiptment that would be considered essential to your life.
I also researched this article and this issue unlike you quick nay sayers, the person who bought the radios WORKS FOR THE NYFD, He/She has to test the
equiptment before any are purchased and given to firefighters in order for on duty firefighters to field test them.
Here's a quote just so you understand the whole story from an article i researched that also includes the video mentioned in the thread.
Fire Fighters for 9/11 Truth
“We should not have New York City firefighters out in dangerous life-threatening situations with faulty or untested equipment,” said Mr.
Gallagher, whose union represents the city’s 8,000 firefighters.”
“Let’s put blame where it belongs, starting with an outside investigation into who in *the Fire Department* ordered or authorized the purchase of
these radios and who made the decision to put them into the field without a proper evaluation of this essential life-saving equipment,” he said
If you read the quote above the NYFD Union Representative Kevin Gallagher was asking for an investigation regarding who ordered or authorized the
radios within "THE FIRE DEPARTMENT".
Now remember he's asking for an investigation within his Department.
Am I saying that Guiliani is innocent, NO. Was he aware, I have no doubt he was. But He as well as who ever purchased the radios within the NYFD are
just as guilty. Hence if this was an issue within the NYFD the Union should have ordered a strike. I think that is why they didn't, because it was an
issue within their own department.
“Thus, despite its acknowledgment two years earlier that several manufacturers were developing technology that might meet FDNY’s CAI
specifications, and in apparent disregard of its pledge to evaluate new technologies and products, the FDNY appears to have elected to accept a radio
representing an entirely new communications technology from Motorola rather than conduct a competitive review of products and prices.”
“The FDNY has stated that its Rescue 2 unit tested the radios from July 23, 1999, to August 1, 1999. However, although the Rescue 2 unit tested an
analog, VHF model of the XTS3500R, the FDNY purchased a digital, UHF model. Thus, the Rescue 2 unit never tested the radios or technology subsequently
purchased by FDNY.”
Also they knowingly made mistakes and had 2 years to correct them yet they didn't.
So according to this, The NYFD tested the radios "They Tested the radios", but decided to purchase other ones they did not test? Remember this is
the NYFD. Not Guliani. So this begs the question. What factors led to the death of so many fire fighters during the events of 9/11?
“But the release of the tapes Wednesday reinforced what earlier tapes, investigations and a new book — “Grand Illusion: The Untold Story of Rudy
Giuliani and 9/11″ — have made clear: that Giuliani and his top aides did not put in place a clear chain of command for police officers and
firefighters, which led to much confusion at the scene. And firefighters never heard calls to leave because they carried outmoded radios that did not
work inside the stairwells of the burning towers.”
Now what is being argued is the fact that Giuliani did not have in place a chain of command. That is what he is being blamed for. Do I think he knew
about the radios as well, probably. But the questions still stands, Was it all his fault?
Anyways, Hope this clears my stance on this thread. So please save your comments until you yourself do researched beyond a biased YouTube video. Yes
it is biased. I don't see them scorning their own Fire Department that shares the fault for purchasing improper equiptment, not testing them properly
and also not addressing the issue in time.
I understand how much the NYFD and NYPD sacrificed and my heart goes out to the people lost that day and for the families they left behind. But I just
wont take a position without knowing all the facts first. And if anything this leaves me with more questions than answers.