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How many of you would pay a prostitute? Or vote to make prostitution legal?

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posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by KeliOnyx
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Legalizing prostitution isn't going to reduce the number of children in the sex industry but it isn't going to increase it either. Legalization is something that should be done it becomes safer, regulated, decreases crime and increases revenue. It is right up there with prohibition of alcohol and weed, it costs more to keep it illegal than it ever will to allow it. Tying up the very resources that could be used to help prosecute things like the child slave industry more effectively.


Actually, studies show that it increases it, or more specifically, increases human trafficking within the prostitution zones. As far as alcohol was concerned people were bootlegging it BEFORE prohibition to avoid taxes, DURING prohibition because it was now a black market commodity, and AFTER prohibition again to avoid taxes. Lets not forget the straw buyer subculture of college kids who will buy alcohol for minors to stock their own keg fund, or the date rape phenomenon. Even in a well regulated market there are ways to do it illegally. New crimes could likely be invented like forging documentation for sex workers etc if it was legalized.
As far as narcotics the most abused drugs happen to be prescription drugs, ironically the ones that are sold primarily as medicine, and several times more likely to be found in an average household than illegal drugs.




posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 07:44 PM
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Anyone who advocates FOR prostitution clearly hasn't seen the crack-head prostitutes where I live. If you had seen them, you would most definitely vote against it and vote for more brown paper bags.



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 07:47 PM
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selling is legal, Fing is legal, why isnt selling Fing legal? ..... goerge carlin



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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I would never utilize the unique services of a prostitute, but I do think it should be legalized on a federal level. There should, of course, be regulations in place to minimize the spread of STD's though...I remember my grandmother telling me when she was younger, she worked with a woman who had at one time been a prostitute, who told her that herself and her friends of the same profession, all filed tax returns listing their occupation as prostitute, and declaring their income.

It seems the government didn't care back then, since they were getting their fair share, lol. That's a true story by the way.



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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Making it legal and regulating it would end drug addiction among prostitutes...



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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I have a theory - just a theory - that prostitution isn't clean, legal and regulated because some of the sleazy people in power prefer it that way.

I don't rule out the possibility that it's more exciting for some men to kerb crawl and risk getting caught and that's why judges and politicians won't act to make life safe and easier for the women in this profession.

Plus, as long as it's allowed to continue the way it is, there must be many opportunities for blackmail.

I'm sure powerful men don't have trouble in finding access to willing women, but it's possible that some of them prefer to have the more dangerous option available to them. Also, I wonder if a downtrodden woman appeals to some of them more than a happy, confident one would.

I'd like to see brothels open for the entertainment of women, too. No reason why they shouldn't indulge their natural desires in a safe environment.

I don't see why anyone should be ashamed of visiting a prostitute. It's an honest transaction - agree on a fair price for the service and just get on with it.

It's far more sleazy for a man to go to a bar intending to get some woman drunk to the point that she's barely capable of saying 'no' and then boasting that he 'never pays for it'. What he means is that he's too cheap to pay the going rate to a professional.

As for the young girls mentioned in the OP - if the industry was legalised and cleaned up I think it would be beneficial to them. Any excuse that they were 'cleaner' than older women would go out the window if prostitutes were given regular check-ups. Anyone who still insisted on have a youngster would reveal themselves as a paedophile and, along with anyone else who insisted on using 'illegal' prostitutes, could be locked up - if we lived in a society with fair laws I'd have no hesitation in locking up anyone who broke them

It might be tricky to make it legal for brothels to cater to every taste - some people have very specific requirements that most of us would find distasteful - but it's better to provide for those needs than risk driving some sections of the sex industry even further underground. Editing to add: I mean acts between consenting adults.

I don't know if I'm naive, but I think that a society that can cultivate a healthy, open attitude towards what is only an appetite when all is said and done, would be a better place for everyone.

Final thought - if prostitution lost the stigma, it might make the streets safer for women who weren't in the profession. They might suffer less harassment from predatory males if society had an expectation that men should go to a brothel to have their needs attended to. Might save some young men from predatory females too if women were properly catered for.



edit on 9-10-2011 by berenike because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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Dear Thestargateisreal

From Thestargateisreal “Yes, let's legalize the spread of HIV and STDs.”

So here is the point keeping it illegal is more likely to spread HIV and STDS than to have a controlled legal system.

It has been proved and no I can not be bothered to look it up but you should.



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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Of course they should (including "ALL" forms of perversity under the laws of the Constitution)..

Overseas I prefer to pay for it, simply because the country mandated medical cards had to be presented to you before the transaction, you could pick an hour, 2, all day, or even an entire year.. it was simply a business transaction (a great deal better then the skewed vision we have here in America)..

Grow up people, sin has been around for as long as mankind has existed, and denying it, only keeps it strong, and viable..



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 09:01 PM
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Every perversion should be legal? Including rape, child molestation, and bestiality? Anyone who thinks so is severely sick in the head....as is anyone who uses the reasoning that since immorality and atrocities have always existed, they should be fully accepted and allowed.

We're supposed to be progressing as a society, not encouraging everyone to act merely on their primitive, animalistic impulses. I'd rather not live in a society where the status of the woman has been reduced to a mere object for deadbeat men to use up.
edit on 10/9/2011 by Charmed707 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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Yes on both counts. Yeah, I've done it a few times. Only have seen girls who work independently, so I know that I'm not putting money into the pockets of some scumbag pimp or some Eastern European slavery ring. That stuff is disgusting.

I've also known a couple girls, just friends, who did it at one time or another in their lives. Usually because it was a good way to pay for college or whatever, but they said they actually enjoyed the job. They liked sex, they got paid VERY well to have it (these were very attractive women) and did so in a pretty safe situation where they had security and such. One girl I knew went so far as to say, "I love my job."

Make it legal and you can (hopefully) get things like pimps and human trafficking out of the mix. Regulate it, tax it, etc. and the worst parts of the criminal element should be minimized of not taken out of the equation completely, I hope. I'd like to know how that goes in places where prostitution is legal like Australia and many European countries. Is the crime factor really minimized? I hope so.



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by Nobama
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Making it legal and regulating it would end drug addiction among prostitutes...


Maybe, but until a better class of prostitutes spring up around here, legalizing prostitution would only contribute to more drug addiction amongst the "johns" - they're gonna have to have a lot of drugs to want to do business with these toothless skanks.



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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I really enjoyed your post and would care to hear you elaborate on why "women selling sex has always been clamped down on . " I am happy that you know a thing or two and haven't been hurt or forced into anything.



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by Underworlds

Originally posted by Nobama
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Making it legal and regulating it would end drug addiction among prostitutes...


Maybe, but until a better class of prostitutes spring up around here, legalizing prostitution would only contribute to more drug addiction amongst the "johns" - they're gonna have to have a lot of drugs to want to do business with these toothless skanks.


This is kind of like saying there ISN'T a rampant drug abuse problem among strippers, or musicians. Legal occupations with higher than normal abuse prevalence. Legal or not it probably wouldn't matter.



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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Also interesting is that here - at ATS - we can have an entire thread about something illegal - but if you so much as mention something else that's also illegal - something being openly discussed by our entire country in the MSM - you are censored and reprimanded reply to post by OwenGP185
 

Honey , I feel you. I have done extensive research into many things that are taboo.



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by Charmed707
reply to post by jamesackerson
 


Every perversion should be legal? Including rape, child molestation, and bestiality? Anyone who thinks so is severely sick in the head....as is anyone who uses the reasoning that since immorality and atrocities have always existed, they should be fully accepted and allowed.

We're supposed to be progressing as a society, not encouraging everyone to act merely on their primitive, animalistic impulses. I'd rather not live in a society where the status of the woman has been reduced to a mere object for deadbeat men to use up.
edit on 10/9/2011 by Charmed707 because: (no reason given)


Progressive?.. ROFL!!.. you really think we have progressed?.. where shall I start?, what level shall I endure in teaching you that we HAVE NOT CHANGED A DAMN THING!!!!!...

What you ascribe to, is a world that cannot exist, does not exist, and has never existed... you simply cannot accept that we have always remained a problem to the universe, a problem that we still have not accepted as "FACT"...

I would rather pay to play, then go to a bar, pay that way, just to get into a pair of pants that I cannot guarantee by state mandated law, is "clean"...

Get with the program, or simply go find a small dark place to hide, this world is going to change, wither you (or I) like it or not...



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 09:27 PM
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First, prostitution IS legal, practically speaking, since "escort" services, who offer the "GFE", make billions a year in revunue.

So theres no truth to the idea of prostitution being illegal. It is very legal. It just has to be TAXED by government, and called something different - "an Escort"..

As for the moral aspect. Honestly, the day society looks at prostitution as a a socially permissible thing is the day society completely loses all sense of sexual integrity.

To spend 200-350 dollars, on a 1 hour experience, and then to indulge in it out of sheer moral weakness (anyone who buys escorts will most likely do it again, and again, since this is a very large and diverse industry that preys on mans spiritual weaknesses), is PATHETIC. It is PATHETIC and woe to the person who rationalizes this corruption as being fine.

I have no problem persay with sexual liberalism between a husband and a wife, but encouraging this sort of culture in society at large would be a complte travesty. It is SCARY to think what would come of this world if prostitution were legalized and recognized as socially acceptable.

Whether you like it or not, our present laws against prostitution encourage the morality that we as mankind ought to strive for. The more spiritual, and selfless we strive to be, the better.

There is no greater or grosser form of self indulgence then sex. Prostitution is the ultimate expression of this.



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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Thank you for your post , it indeed was "food for thought" ..and in a very disturbing way . I wanna make sure I read your post in the right way. So what I got , was that in making prostitution legal , we will only make the child trafficking worse? If this is correct , I think I'm going to be sick for a long time , it really upsets me.



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by dontreally
First, prostitution IS legal, practically speaking, since "escort" services, who offer the "GFE", make billions a year in revunue.

So theres no truth to the idea of prostitution being illegal. It is very legal. It just has to be TAXED by government, and called something different - "an Escort"..

As for the moral aspect. Honestly, the day society looks at prostitution as a a socially permissible thing is the day society completely loses all sense of sexual integrity.

To spend 200-350 dollars, on a 1 hour experience, and then to indulge in it out of sheer moral weakness (anyone who buys escorts will most likely do it again, and again, since this is a very large and diverse industry that preys on mans spiritual weaknesses), is PATHETIC. It is PATHETIC and woe to the person who rationalizes this corruption as being fine.

I have no problem persay with sexual liberalism between a husband and a wife, but encouraging this sort of culture in society at large would be a complte travesty. It is SCARY to think what would come of this world if prostitution were legalized and recognized as socially acceptable.

Whether you like it or not, our present laws against prostitution encourage the morality that we as mankind ought to strive for. The more spiritual, and selfless we strive to be, the better.

There is no greater or grosser form of self indulgence then sex. Prostitution is the ultimate expression of this.


HEH!.. they do not encourage, they seek to control the basic desires of men AND women......

When you have to put a BS law to control another, their will always be opposition, their will always be "strife" and in the end, their will always be "change"... learn to live with it, or go hide in a hole somewhere until you move on...
edit on 9-10-2011 by jamesackerson because: BS typo



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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I just don't understand how so many people missed that whole "pursuit of happiness" part of the constitution.

How ironic is it that the people who most ardently criticize sharia law are the same people who want to pass laws in America based on their religious beliefs?



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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Unfortunately yes. It creates a larger customer base if you will for trafficking. Higher demand means they have to find more supply.



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