Anyone Know anything about this?

Hi, i got given this item by a friend and i was wondering if anyone knows anything about it. I'm just wanting to know if the patch on the Pugaree is real or not. Thanks:

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Honestly I can't even make most of it out.....could you explain what you mean by "real". Is there something mysterious about it? Does it say something interesting? I see a word...but again, I can't make it out. The word in red seem to have been written by someone rather than part of the original item, I'd guess...but again, I can't make out the word. Perhaps you could describe what it is about this that you want to know, and what exactly you mean by 'is it real'.

Looks real. Can you touch it

Originally posted by bhornbuckle75
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Honestly I can't even make most of it out.....could you explain what you mean by "real". Is there something mysterious about it? Does it say something interesting? I see a word...but again, I can't make it out. The word in red seem to have been written by someone rather than part of the original item, I'd guess...but again, I can't make out the word. Perhaps you could describe what it is about this that you want to know, and what exactly you mean by 'is it real'.

The word is Teasle, as in a name. surname or nickname i'm guessing. The puggaree is supposedly from the 1st Independent company (Australia, 1941-42). I was just wondering if anyone knew whether of not this item is authentic judging by the green patch.

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good call

Hey Daaskapital,
Just did a quick search on 1st Ind.Coy. The double green diamond with blue outline is the correct emblem for that unit. Could not find the original unit registry, but hey, I only searched for like 1 min. When formed it was only a small unit, less than 300 all up and they managed to suffer an almost 50% casualty rate.
If you do a proper search I will bet that "Teasle" is the surname of one of its members. It has long been common practice for people to write their surname somewhere in each and every piece of gear that is issued to them. ( In the Australian Military at least, I cannot say about others) Hope all this helps.

Originally posted by Petrov62
Hey Daaskapital,
Just did a quick search on 1st Ind.Coy. The double green diamond with blue outline is the correct emblem for that unit. Could not find the original unit registry, but hey, I only searched for like 1 min. When formed it was only a small unit, less than 300 all up and they managed to suffer an almost 50% casualty rate.
If you do a proper search I will bet that "Teasle" is the surname of one of its members. It has long been common practice for people to write their surname somewhere in each and every piece of gear that is issued to them. ( In the Australian Military at least, I cannot say about others) Hope all this helps.

Sweet, thankyou very much for the information. I have tried looking up the name on the AWM, but so far no luck, i will continue looking though, Again, thankyou

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You're welcome. The Wiki site is ok but the Australian War Memorial is better.

Would anyone happen to know if soldiers back then happened to sew their own patches on to their gear? Especially in the wild or at home

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Colour badges are now supplied as such as part of the gear. Usually only on the bungeree of head gear. However, colour badges as such had their start in WW1, Units would be given a specific design that applied to them only. This would enable members of that unit to be able to recognize each other etc etc. Most battles in WW1 started with a reasonably organised attack that would soon result in complete carnage and confusion, so the ability to re-organise after the attack was crucial..thus the patches.
I cannot find any info on who actually put the badges on, but given the situation at the time, and understanding a bit about logistics, I will take an educated guess that they were given out and individual soldiers sewed them on.

Originally posted by Petrov62
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Colour badges are now supplied as such as part of the gear. Usually only on the bungeree of head gear. However, colour badges as such had their start in WW1, Units would be given a specific design that applied to them only. This would enable members of that unit to be able to recognize each other etc etc. Most battles in WW1 started with a reasonably organised attack that would soon result in complete carnage and confusion, so the ability to re-organise after the attack was crucial..thus the patches.
I cannot find any info on who actually put the badges on, but given the situation at the time, and understanding a bit about logistics, I will take an educated guess that they were given out and individual soldiers sewed them on.

Thanks again for your help mate.

Okay, if anyone is still reading this, can you please help me gather information on a man called [SNIP]. I have pinned the original owner of the Puggaree to this man. All i need to know is where he served. The only info i know is that he was discharged in hospital. Thanks again