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It will now be a crime in America to do things in foreign countries that aren't crimes.

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posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by deadeyedick
reply to post by Thermo Klein
 


Its on fox news also.


alright then.... what's the name of the Bill or Appeal?




posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by jamesackerson
ROTFLMAO!!

Good luck trying to enforce that BS "illegal" law..

Unless your tapping all forms of comm's, inside every room the "purps" (that would be any US citizen in another land), and doing "live streaming" of them using the latest SAT's.. it is a false law, I would look in the ""by-lines" to see what the "real deal" is in the law, sure as hell is not the one written on the front page...


Before go laughing yourself into a coma, keep in mind that the FBI has fields offices ALL over the world that work in conjunction with the U.S. Consulate and local agencies. For example, one the biggest FBI field offices in Asia is in Beijing. Think about that...



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 09:16 PM
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...also not finding anything remotely like this on Lamar Smith's homepage.

Congressman Lamar Smith homepage

anyone seeing this as legit yet??

seems pretty out there as it's both illegal and would DEFINITELY cause an International issue if we acted on it.

ETA: I'm outta here but just one final note...

from Huff article:
Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) allows prosecutors to bring conspiracy charges against anyone who discusses, plans or advises someone else to engage in any activity that violates the CSA


doesn't "conspiracy" need to involve a number of people, like 6+?



edit on 8-10-2011 by Thermo Klein because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 09:25 PM
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When in Rome, do as the Romans do…. Opps …you’re not allowed to



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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Hypotheticaly what if a US slave/citizen drove to a US embassy in mexico, turned in said passport traveled back to the US now an illegal alien would they have more or less freedom?



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 09:53 PM
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I posted a thread 2 days ago about something very weird.

In the same day I kept seeing news about govs being tough on marijuana.

Canadian gov is enforcing stronger laws on it and there was news about it that day.
U.S. Federal gov attorney was going after California dispenseries.
Netherlands was considering changing their laws to make marijuana illegal.

I understand the other implications of that U.S law, and it's disguisting. But you got to admit.. it kinda fits the puzzle of the couple last days. They even quote the substance.



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 10:47 PM
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Living in a foriegn country while you renounce your American citizenship I believe. There are jobs also that are called expat jobs (short for expatriot) where you work in a foriegn country yet are still an American citizen.

I may not be right on the money with those definitions, but you get the gist of it I hope.






posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 10:51 PM
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This is like waving at Stevie wonder this doesnt make sense. They are stretching this law
Big government ,small brains, dumb laws

www.dumblaws.com...
www.usattorneylegalservices.com...

In Alabama, it is illegal to wear a fake mustache that causes laughter in church
ARIZONA Weird State Laws

It is illegal to let a Donkey sleep in a bathtub
nice land of the free, laws to govern everything almost on how to wipe your own ass
The more laws they make the more criminals they make



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 11:07 PM
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Originally posted by FlyingJadeDragon

Originally posted by jamesackerson
ROTFLMAO!!

Good luck trying to enforce that BS "illegal" law..

Unless your tapping all forms of comm's, inside every room the "purps" (that would be any US citizen in another land), and doing "live streaming" of them using the latest SAT's.. it is a false law, I would look in the ""by-lines" to see what the "real deal" is in the law, sure as hell is not the one written on the front page...


Before go laughing yourself into a coma, keep in mind that the FBI has fields offices ALL over the world that work in conjunction with the U.S. Consulate and local agencies. For example, one the biggest FBI field offices in Asia is in Beijing. Think about that...


I'm fully "aware" of the sit-rep of FBI's invasion into foreign lands (just like I am of the spooks and black ops packages roaming the wastelands and cities of other countries, working out of Langley, Columbia, And Puerto Rico as an example)

I'll laugh as hard as I desire, because it's a "false law", it's a gilded package, with strings attached leading to the "real meat" of an unassociated law that TPTB are "truly" wanting on the books..

They know damn well they cannot enforce this one, it's too saturated with anomalies, would draw way to much attention to sanction it's results..

And the FBI are errand boys, they have as much common sense as a deer does crossing the road at night..

I would be more concerned with the "real deal", FBI is far from anything to worry about...



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
There's no where to run to.

All the governments are in cahoots in some way or another.

And they all want to "control" people.

So no matter where you run, you will still eventually have to stand up for yourselves.

Tyranny has us surrounded, see.
Make a stand now, right here, together.


Amen to that Muzz...



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 11:33 PM
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What do you think is more likely. A well known media outlet (even if you don't like them) reporting something that didn't happen or you being right?

Not saying you aren't but just think about it. Publishing lies in a newspaper (online paper, same thing now days) is illegal. So no this is either real or you're wrong.



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 11:58 PM
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Near as I can find, this bill was from the LAST session. Here is the link to it:

Bill

The last reported action on the bill was June 16, 2010 when it was referred to the Subcommittee on Homeland Security.

Seems like a dead issue that someone on the Interwebs stumbled across?

OOPS!!!!

Sorry to say I jumped the gun there! Here is the current bill:

New Bill

A vote was conducted in committee on Oct 6th.

This is a real bill. Of course it might not go anywhere just like last year's bill. the Hon (and I use the term loosely) Smith authored both bills. Last years died a quiet death, why does he think this year's will be different?


edit on 10/9/2011 by Montana because: new info



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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The second link is no longer working. I get this error: Your Search Has Timed Out. I have tried to locate it but can't seem to find it.

Did you perhaps print out the "New" bill to your computer so you could insert it in your post or get the number of it? Frankly, after seeing the first one presented last year, I DO believe it is again a bill in the making and we should stay on track to get this squashed. Thank goodness you provided the links as proof. If someone doesn't know their House Judiciary Committee members, here is the link. judiciary.house.gov...

Don't run away to another country. United we stand, divided we fall. You may nay-say the idea but it's true. This country's citizens have not been UNITED for a very, very long time. Stand up and make this country what you want it to be. Write them! Write your Congressman, your sister, your neighbors and friends, Uncle George and your dog. Do SOMETHING for crying out loud besides sitting on your ass and reading all the comments about this. Get involved.



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 02:38 AM
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Yet again the GOP attempting to overstep and to override a nation's sovereign right for which we have no legal authourity to do. This will not go through as it will die a horrible death in the Senate! This won't get past commitee!
edit on 9-10-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 04:44 AM
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Link

Try this link to the new bill.

It is H.R.313 -- Drug Trafficking Safe Harbor Elimination Act of 2011

Peace



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 05:27 AM
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Well you know what..

I think I'll save up some money and take a trip to Europe and smoke some pot and some other dodgy stuff for my next holiday...

Oh no, I have just committed a federal crime..!!!

Wait... DOH..!! That's right, it's all cool.
I'm not a US citizen so they can't do a damn thing...lol "yet".

I can totally see the US declaring that any law broken by anyone anywhere will be within their jurisdiction. .
edit on 10/9/2011 by Ironclad because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 05:41 AM
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Duuuude... why would you buy your wedding party drugs?



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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if passed it would just give Libertarianism more credibility, thank you



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 08:06 AM
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FOX makes it MORE suspect rather than backing up a story that can't be verified.
If I see "FOX", I usually raise an eyebrow and consider it propaganda.
Just sayin....

The Bill
Previous Versions of the Bill

It's not legal to smoke marijauna in the Netherlands for Americans....bad example.
Netherlands Crack Down
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posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by Thermo Klein
...also not finding anything remotely like this on Lamar Smith's homepage.

anyone seeing this as legit yet??

seems pretty out there as it's both illegal and would DEFINITELY cause an International issue if we acted on it.

ETA: I'm outta here but just one final note...

doesn't "conspiracy" need to involve a number of people, like 6+?


It is legit... you can read the full text on thomas.loc.gov...# . Search on either Rep Lamar Smith or H. R. 313


112th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 313

To amend the Controlled Substances Act to clarify that persons who enter into a conspiracy within the United States to possess or traffic illegal controlled substances outside the United States, or engage in conduct within the United States to aid or abet drug trafficking outside the United States, may be criminally prosecuted in the United States, and for other purposes.


And, to your conspiracy question, I believe that it only takes 2 people.
edit on 9/10/2011 by Iamonlyhuman because: (no reason given)



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