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Bordergate Update! AG's 2nd in Command Briefed in Detail of Fast & Furious Operations

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posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 09:58 PM
Bordergate Update! AG's 2nd in Command Briefed in Detail of Operations!

As if there wasn't enough info coming from whistleblowers and Congress, it turns out Obama and Holder's Dept. of Justice are now coming forward with documentation of the extensive, and far-reaching, information provided officials at the highest levels of the dangerously misguided gun running operations in Arizona, Texas and Florida.

Documents recently turned over by the Justice Department to Congressional investigators indicate that then-Deputy Attorney General Gary Grindler received a detailed briefing on Fast and Furious more than a year and a half ago.
"Deputy Attorney General" is the Justice Department's No. 2 figure, directly under Attorney General Eric Holder.
Grindler moved from Deputy Attorney General to a spot as Holder's chief of staff last January.

The briefing Grindler attended was on March 12, 2010, six months into ATF's Operation Fast and Furious, which allowed thousands of weapons on the street in an attempt to track down Mexican drug cartels. Portions of the documents are redacted.

Of course, the White House has tried to avoid the implication of knowledge about the program by claiming that these were merely cursory "FYI" notes given no specific attention.

Unfortunately for the Obama WH and DoJ, Holder's 2nd in Command took detailed notes which were included, in part, in the most recent document disclosure.

In handwritten notes about Fast and Furious that are not all legible, Grindler writes about "seizures in Mexico" and "links to cartel." He also noted "seizures in Mexico" on a map of Phoenix, the home base for Fast and Furious, and Mexico locations where some guns ended up. And Grindler made notations on a photograph of several dozen rifles.

Deputy AG received detailed Fast and Furious briefing

for those who haven't followed the progression, this has grown from stories of a couple of "disgruntled" field agents into a scandal that implicates the highest levels of the Obama administration in the supply of weapons to Mexican drug cartels to use against Mexican and American citizens, and directly implicated in the deaths of US border and narcotics agents.

Thankfully, ATS has followed the developments of this story almost from its inception:

"Bordergate" Eruption! New Docs include 2010 Holder briefings on "Fast & Furious"

MSM Cover-Up Confirmed by "Bordergate" Reporter! Whitehouse Furious for Not Complying!

Bordergate? Obama admin intimidating witnesses in"Gunrunner/Fast and Furious" gun probe!

Update! Holder bragged about Operation Gunrunner in 2009

edit on 7-10-2011 by jdub297 because: sp

posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 10:01 PM
so who will fall on their own sword first?

Because Barry definitely isn't.

I hope that the bastard gets impeached
edit on 7-10-2011 by illuminatislave because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 10:10 PM
Sounds like Grindler has been chosen as a sacrifice to the public outrage. I hope they aren't foolish enough to think the public will accept someone that low in this case and stop with that. This goes into the White House, or they need to demonstrate that it doesn't. There is too much smoke here not to find the fire before moving onto something else.

posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 10:23 PM
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

They seem to be taking a head here and there, stepping back and asking, "Is that enough?"

ATF officials reassigned in latest Fast and Furious fallout

ATF head removed by Justice Dept. after 'Fast and Furious' controversy

Sooner or later, they are going to run out of scapegoats.


posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 10:54 PM
reply to post by jdub297

I agree. I just hope the public isn't distracted by something else in the near future that leaves this forgotten. This scandal has all the earmarks of a Watergate and then some for low level actions leading straight to the top and various points between.

posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 05:33 AM
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

Holder has taken the abominable step of trying to divert the focus from his office to the field officers he used as pawns to accomplish his and Obama's end game.

He fired of a letter to Congress asking "how dare they" accuse these poor field officers of abetting murder, when they did nothing of the sort!

Thay accused HIM and BARACK OBAMA of being accessories to murder by their calous use of their field officers to unwittingly carry-out their unspoken anti-gun agenda.


posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:00 PM
Now that Holder and the White House staff have tried their best to divert attention away from their roles and cover-up efforts, CNN's John King digs up an interview Barack Obama gave in March to CNN En Espanol where he discusses Fast and Furios, gun-running and Holder's investigation of the matter!

This was, of course, more than a month before Holder told Congress in May that he'd just learned about F&F "a few weeks ago."

How could he have had an on-going investigation in March, according to his boss, but just learned of the operation a few weeks before his testimony?

"John King USA"

Listen to this interview the president of the United States, not the attorney general, the president of the United States, had with CNN Espanol back in March.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There have been problems, you know. I heard on the news about this story that -- Fast and Furious, where allegedly guns were being run into Mexico, and ATF knew about it, but didn't apprehend those who had sent it.

Eric Holder has -- the attorney general has been very clear that he knew nothing about this. We had assigned an I.G., inspector general, to investigate it. (END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: It begs the question, how did the president know about this in March, and how did the president know the attorney general knew nothing about this in march, when the attorney general says in May he just learned about it a couple weeks ago?

Obama Spoke About "Fast & Furious" Before Holder Claimed He Knew

Apparently, there is much more to the story about who knew what when than we've been told thus far.


posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:25 PM
Just keep in mind that the CFR owns the media and "they" are the ones who determine "what" you should know, "when" you should know it and "how" you should know it........

There is no such thing as "Free Press"

If they are allowing the information out concerning the White House’s involvement knowing that this could cause a failed reelection attempt or worse…………what chess moves are they making and why?

It’s a deep rabbit hole and as I look at some of the pieces it seems as if they want “we” the people to rise and riot so they could pull the plug on all of us through military control.

The past couple weeks points us in a very bad direction………..

edit on 14-10-2011 by Cloudsinthesky because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 11:58 PM
reply to post by Cloudsinthesky

Have you looked at the CFR's site and the publications they sponsor?

It would appear that whatever support Obama gained in 2008 has long-since faded by the wayside.
Even if you understand that the CFR only says what they want you to hear, reading between the lines can reveal a dissatisfaction with the old agenda and the groundwork for a new (Obama-less) one.

posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 04:25 PM
How about coming clean at the last minute?

The Obama administration today dropped another 1,300+ pages of docs today, including some that clearly show it lied in its earlier responses to Congress' requests for disclosure.

The Justice Department has provided Congress with 1,364 pages of documents detailing how the department gave inaccurate information to a U.S. senator in the controversy surrounding Operation Fast and Furious, the flawed law enforcement initiative aimed at dismantling major arms trafficking networks on the Southwest border.

In a letter last February to Charles Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, the Justice Department said that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms had not knowingly allowed the sale of assault weapons to a straw purchaser and that the agency makes every effort to intercept weapons that have been purchased illegally. In connection with Operation Fast and Furious, both statements subsequently have turned out to be incorrect.

Justice Dept. details how it got statements wrong

How long will the lies continue?


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