99%? Who wants to be a part of the 100%?

reply to post by Cinaed


I care.

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal


There ya go. Propaganda you be spreading.

Yes,and OWS is a bunch of Capitalists,wearing Liberal Socialist/Communist clothing......................

Yes,I be spreading..............................

reply to post by Cinaed


That's because our politicians, talking heads and teachers have been allowed to get away with calling it a Democracy for so long without being corrected, that most people now believe it *is* or *was* a Democracy and should become a true *Democracy*.

What they fail to realize is that if was a Democracy, blacks would have never gotten rights, women wouldn't vote, etc. It was the REPUBLIC that allowed those positive changes!

reply to post by navy_vet_stg3


Actually no, I'm saying they are both killers. I sure am not making any one to be better than the other.

Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by daskakik

 

I suppose that depends on who you ask. The are told how many children they can have and forced abortions are REAL...they are not allowed to speak without fear of reprisal against the government.... they are STILL a Totalitarian society....

They do get to make a lil money now but from what I have been reading that might be about to change....

Yes, that's exactly right. They may be playing around with a bit of Capitalist production, but they still have a bad record on human rights, and the Internet filtering is something Barack would be jealous of. It is known as The Great Firewall of China.

reply to post by neo96


The DNC has accounts and payments through most every banks that's been attacked and Soros does business with entities who have accounts in those same banks. Both would be shooting themselves in the foot and Soros' fortune would've rapidly declined by now.

reply to post by daskakik


Okay, let me rephrase. The OWS crowd is saying, "I want to live with John Wayne Gacy, because he'll give me a lollypop. He promised me a lollypop!" Sorry for my error.

reply to post by navy_vet_stg3


If you deny anyone with a pulse their rights, you do not have a democracy to begin with.

reply to post by sonnny1


I don't think beezzer's thread is derailed...I think the old fart very wisely is making a point *wink*

but that's just me

I mean that with all endearment beezzer

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by projectvxn

 

The fact that one of it's original attempts was to fix class struggles. It didn't work, but some of it is worth trying to implement in a democracy, as others have pointed out, it already is implemented.

So you haven't read Marx...Just listened to communist propaganda and it's all good...

My parents lived it. I have read the Communist Manifesto, I understand it. I'll take the experience of my parents in Cuba and the words of Marx himself before I yield to your lack of understanding as you defend a system while being comfortable in the United States, where you can pursue academic political theory that ignores history and focuses on blind emotional responses.

reply to post by Thestargateisreal

...only with a Constitution in place to protect against it. That is, until the majority rules to abolish said Constitution.

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


have a point there? gee its not like a hacker cant erase any digital tracks and hello? dnc controls the government and knows the loop holes to hide fund transfers.

there is big money backing annomyous and ows and they have the employees to make it seem like anything.

you really sit there and think some script kiddie is annonymous or a group? yeah right your talking millions of computer hardware to do whatever they hell they "accomnplished".

reply to post by neo96


You're right. There is a LOT of big money. Just do a DNS lookup on who registered occupywallstreet.org Follow the money.

reply to post by navy_vet_stg3


The anology was to show that communism having a higher body count doesn't automatically make the US good.

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by navy_vet_stg3

 

If you deny anyone with a pulse their rights, you do not have a democracy to begin with.

Direct democracy is mob rule. Who said its fair?

reply to post by daskakik

Fair enough. However, wanting something that's been proven MUCH WORSE is asinine and dangerous, and should be stopped at ANY cost. Period. And, while I still have it, I'll stand by that Constitutionally protected opinion.

Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by navy_vet_stg3

 

The anology was to show that communism having a higher body count doesn't automatically make the US good.

So....What has Communism done for the world? What great deed has it given mankind?

:crickets:
:chirp:

reply to post by sonnny1


I wish I could remember their nick or I had saved the link of what I think was the BEST summation of the protest to date, I would love to give them credit!

They said OWS is like protesting world hunger with a big mac in your hand

reply to post by navy_vet_stg3


Actually this whole thing started with Thestargateisreal saying ther are some appealing things about communism. No one has actually called for it to replace the representative government in place.

The irony is that some of those appealing things are already part of the current system.

reply to post by navy_vet_stg3


No, that's not a democratic way of thinking. It doesn't matter if the constitution protects it, it's not one of the ideas that democracy stands for. The men that allowed that bit in, wanted to protect their wallets. Which is why I have the opinion that our great country was founded at least partially on greed.