Computer virus area 51?, page 1

reply to post by SpunGCake

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5 other people have beat you to it. Old news.
Best practice: search before posting.

reply to post by LvSLoLo

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in a place like area51 you would think that they have dedicated stand alone servers for all there top level secrets at least i would so the only way to view it on location and you would have been seen by a whole butt load of security. so even if you did get a flash drive or a picture would be like fly's on a big cow pie.

reply to post by nineix

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Spot on!

As this guy said, any good info at area 51 would most likely not be connected to the www.
It would have to be some sort of physical data storage you would need to obtain.
Otherwise, you can bet china and russia would be attempting to break in non stop.

I have nothing to back this up with, but, if you had the money, and really wanted things to be secure,
You could hire a team to develop your very own unique operating system and hardware which would be incompatible with windows/apple/linux flavors. I mean, if i was in charge of keeping data safe, i would pursue this idea. It is of course not foolproof, as with anything elae, but just one more level of complexity any potential thief would have to deal with.

reply to post by VonDoomen

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There are indeed benefits to a proprietary OS from a security stand point.
There are, however, also drawbacks, namely accountability and support. Whoever develops the OS would be accountable for its operation, and, well, they'd be relied on a little too heavily for a truly secure system. If anything happened to the developer(s), then, well, you're screwed and can't get at your own data if there's a break.
A Linux, or Unix flavor solution running on proprietary hardware would be the best practice route; providing security, and a larger knowledge base pool of recruitment for administration.

Then again, in consideration of OS running on satellites, the space shuttle, ISS, probes we've sent out, major telescope systems, LHC, military jets, tanks, ships, submarines, missile systems, and many more, these all have custom code written specifically for their hardware, so, for a place like Area 51 (real & imagined versions), a proprietary OS running on proprietary hardware is not only not a far fetched idea, but, a higher probability than any other.

Further, regarding something mentioned about a DOS attack, how is anyone going to run a DOS on something that already lives completely unconnected offline behind several layers of physical security already? Physical DOS is actually part of the security in barring access to everyone but those with clearance to have access.
Information security is about so much more than simple one dimensional strategies like encryption and only encryption. Physical access, control and accountability of control over that access, all the elements of disaster recovery and planning, and many other folds take part.

Possibly one of the best, most secure systems for data security right now, would be a simple box of paper documents under 20 dozen layers of lock and key, automatic, and human security systems. Try hacking that without an army at your back.

reply to post by LvSLoLo

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Everyone should read fatherdeath's post to this thread HERE; this analysis is 100% spot on. Anyone who has ever held a DoD security clearance knows that information classified at or above the "Industrial Secret" level can only be handled on stand-alone computers or networks physically isolated from the WWW. Anyone that claims to have accessed TOP SECRET, or even DoD SECRET, information through the internet is either fabricating a story or has stumbled upon several insiders working together to subvert information handling safeguards (a crime punishable by death).

Best regards,
Z

I doubt anyone would write their own OS from scratch these days. It is easier to build a custom distribution of linux. Google, stock exchanges, etc. do this. Google has their own file system as well.

The NSA is a big fan of linux. In fact, they wrote some of the open source code to make it more secure. Most linux distributions have this feature, though setting up security enhanced linux is a skill it itself.

en.wikipedia.org...
twit.tv...
twit.tv...

My recollection is there is a gray area in the interwebs where the contractors and DoD hang out. If you think about it, the contractors are creating the top secret stuff, at least regarding what you would find at Groom Lake. [Obviously stuff like foreign intel comes from the NSA, though there are private intelligence firms these days too.] The recent RSA hack is probably the biggest threat to security ever. Most hacks are just something shown in a lab, but actual secure accounts were hacked when they cracked the RSA code. Looks like the RSA's server is down. Hacked again? ;-)

BTW, it is DDoS, not DOS attacks. You need a number of servers to attack your server. One guy pinging the crap out of you is just an annoyance.

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