reply to post by VitriolAndAngst
Your "lesson" on banks and mortgages was mere preaching to the choir. I "get it" how it works, I just don't get why I should care about that. I don't
have a mortgage, and am not going to have one. The percentages in it go entirely the wrong way.
You can fill all the sandbags you want -- but it would be great if the "get off my lawn types" out there, who still blame POOR PEOPLE for getting
ripped off, had a solution.
I reckon you haven't read many of my posts. I HAVE a solution - don't borrow money you can't pay back. It's worked for me so far. Bankers are con men,
and like all good scams, they took advantage of the mark's own greed in the sub-prime mortgage mess. Personally, I took it a step further - not only
do I NOT bum money from banks, whether I can pay it back or not, I don't KEEP my money in a bank, either. I don't deal with them at all.
Seriously, who here is using their head for a hat rack? The banks were NOT injured by the mortgages
Of course they weren't. They made out like bandits because they are, well, BANDITS! I've not said any different anywhere, contrary to your suggestion
that I somehow have.
Let me repeat exactly what I said, so that you don't have to go look it up:
Use your head for something besides a place to lay your hat. NO ONE, minority or not, should buy more house than they can afford. Derivatives and bank
malfeasance are an entirely separate issue, not concantenated as you are implying. If you buy more than you can pay for, expect it to get taken
People give up all their money and then some, more than they have to begin with, then bitch and whine because someone else has it? Here's an idea:
DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM TO BEGIN WITH! I know, it's a novel approach, but it has worked for me.
>> Of course, we HAVE a solution -- and that is, get the money out of politics, re-instate Glass/Stegal act, get better oversight on Wall Street and
don't allow any financial transactions that require a PhD.
Sounds good to me, although I would also make trading in "futures" and derivatives and the like hanging offenses. Those practices are like dealing in
crack, except they hurt more people. What I have to wonder is what exactly makes you think that protesting at Wall Street is going to suddenly make
them straighten themselves out, get a conscience, and clean up their own house?
I'll say it again: wrong target.
The people confused about the OWS movement, have been eating the corporate PR for some time. You idea that people "enjoy the fruits of corporations"
so they cannot criticize corruption can only be non-hypocrites if they are Luddites is truly, epic.
I'm not as "confused" about OWS as a lot of you would like me to be. As far as protesting corporations on products made by corporations goes, I don't
go out and take out loans, then bitch and whine about people loaning stuff to me. Pretty simple, really. Live what you preach - it's gives the
impression that you really mean what you say.
Calling for justice is apparently Communism. Calling for a rollback in tax giveaways is Socialism. If you read the Declaration of Independence --
without the title, you'd probably think that was a Marxist manifesto as well.
That's quite a stretched out straw man you have there. WHERE did I say ANY of that? I don't even mean in just this thread - I mean in ANY of my 6,500
or so ATS posts. You've set up a straw man here, then set it on fire to see if I'd hug it to smother the flames. Good try, but no cigar.
I could spend a lot of time debunking the oft repeated "Neocon Meme" about the nonsense that banks were forced to give loans to minorities who
couldn't pay them back
I don't do "memes", but you are right on at least two counts here: Neocons are idiots, and no one had to "force" bankers to rip people off. All that
directive did was give them a green light to engage in robbery, and they knew it right from the start. I wonder of the were grinning large when they
were hollering "OW! OW! OW! Stop twisting my arm!"
I don't bother mentioning that using war for our economy, is about a lacking in morals as one can get -- but that's explaining rainbows to dogs.
Is there a compelling reason I should care about your version of "morality"?
It's really great to see the OWS movement taking off -- because it doesn't matter that this country is CHOCK FULL of Fox News viewers who won't "get
it" until Global Warming brings the tide up to their ankles, or they get thrown out on the street because it's THEIR TURN.
I get so tired of being accused of being a Fox News viewer that I might just actually tune into it one day to see what I've been missing. Must be
something important, or people wouldn't be carrying on so about it. I've had cable nearly a week now, and I'm sure I'll eventually get around to
finding out what channel it's on. I actually got it in the first place because of allegations like this, but just haven't had the time to play with it
"Global Warming" doesn't bother me in the least. Not even a tiny bit. A lot of hype not borne out by science or geological history.
Can you tell me some reason I'd be "thrown out in the street"?
Don't worry -- when we fix things, we'll even look out for the people who were wrong about everything.
If you're referring to me, please don't "look out for" me. I'll look out for myself, thanks, and your type of "help" either kills or subjugates, and
I'll stand still for neither.
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