reply to post by cbianchi513
Holy moly! That was
you, wasn't it? How'd that get past OpSec and into a training video?
I thought the video was pretty good as a trainer, and will likely raise some real world points that some here may not consider, and really ought to.
The "ambush" of the van at the gate, for example. Folks need to think
about that. Waiting 3 hours to investigate just ain't enough if they go
hey diddle diddle right down the middle in a great big knot. Might as well paint a bulls-eye on 'em before ever sending them out the gate.
If I'm running the security (which I'm not in this scenario) I'm not waiting 3 hours in the first place. I'm gonna have goonies in the boonies right
away. They're not going to the van - it's already shot up. They're going to the ambush line, through the weeds. They're gonna flank those mugs
on-line, and erase them. After all, that's where the bullets CAME FROM, so that's priority one for erasure. You know how important aiming stakes are
in an "L shaped" ambush - my boys are gonna be the short leg of the L, without aiming stakes. They are not, I repeat NOT going straight into the KZ in
a knot. I'd just shoot 'em myself before they left the compound and save the looters the trouble if that were the case. They are NOT approaching the
ambush from the direction of the KZ. You assault into an ambush if you're CAUGHT in the kill zone, but you don't volunteer to enter one you already
know is there! Besides, if the looters know their stuff, there's gonna be surprises in the ditch in front of the kill zone, and homey only likes
surprises on birthdays.
Now, in the scenario we have going here, I'm still outside the camp, snoopin' and poopin' on their behalf. My job is to notice when a band of armed
strangers enters the AO, and to give warning. then I'm going back out into the bush to keep an eye on what they're up to, since I've already alerted
the compound. I'm not gonna Rambo their asses and light 'em up all by my lonesome. Nossir, that only gives away my secret. I'm gonna watch their
movements, note their positions, composition, arms and deployment of same, and call the wrath of God, or whoever is running the compound at the
moment, right in on top of them.
Then I'm gonna do a hostile stop on the already stopped van, after the ambush is mopped up Can't just leave it sitting in the middle of the roadway,
dead bodies or not. I'm gonna do a "hostile stop" on the van because I don't know the van any more than I knew the ambushers. They're ALL strangers to
me, and for all I know it might have been a gang war between rival looter gangs, one as bad as the other.
Then I'm gonna find out how in the devil that van got there in the first place, and why wasn't the bridge blown or the road cratered like I
And for all that, all I get is a pat on the head and maybe a twinkie. Life just ain't fair, is it?
Understand, bro, that ain't NONE of this real. No OPSEC for any of these folks has been broken. This is a "what if" scenario, it's been fun,
educational, and at times hair raising (it's gonna give me nightmares about ball peen hammers fer sure), but no one has given up any real grids.
it's a thought experiment, with some rather interesting results. I for one have had to re-evaluate who I think is gonna live and who is gonna die just
from the attitudes and knowledge base (or lack thereof) shown here. It has also driven home a few interesting revelations: for example, who knew
there'd be so many folks to cook stuff, and so few to grow/hunt the stuff to be cooked? there are going to be a lot of unemployed chefs after the
apocalypse, and a lot of skinny "survivors" - if they don't starve to death, that is.
With all the electricians and mechanics, I think scroungers will be in high demand. SOMEONE is going to have to find all the copper wire to wind the
coils for the home-made water powered generators. SOMEONE is going to have to find the points to convert the vehicles back to old school. SOMEONE is
going to have to find the coffee to trade for the hookers (also a saturated job market - right up there with the cooks). SOMEONE is going to have to
find all the millions of little things to make life more pleasant in the compound. "Scrounging", or "salvage" for the squeamish, is going to be a high
demand, and also high RISK profession. I foresee a high turnover among the scroungers., but the traders of the trails will likely find work, lodging,
and friends wherever they go.
I'm surprised that no one has taken note yet that fields big enough to grow food for all the people INSIDE the compound are going to be OUTSIDE the
compound, and no one has yet offered to even guard those fields or the workers, You KNOW those fields are going to be a big fat target for the
teeming, starving refugee masses they have banging on the gate.
I think we need to put a few cooks on guard duty and gardening detail....
edit on 2011/10/9 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)