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Why should I let you through the checkpoint?

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posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by GrandpaDave
 


You know I'm their leader.
I was last night anyways.


There has been one coup at camp, so far then? More convincing evidence it isn't the best place to be, long term.



edit on 8-10-2011 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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Maybe it was a mere coincidence that they didn't like my possessive attitude?



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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reply to post by graceunderpressure
 


interesting OP!

First off I wanna know what they can offer me! and try to ascertain whether I'm safe and not walking into a theft- or death-trap.

But, supposing I knew that...
I'm a Psychologist (and Reiki/Pranic energy healer) and my wife's a nurse - we're in!


I also carry a nice military utility vest with everything to keep me alive indefinitely in survival-land. Gotta say it feels good to be prepared for this scenario, just in case! total kit was around $400, always accessible. I recommend it!



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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Is this like the job offers that only ever ask for people with experience and refuse those who don't have the experience but are willing to learn on the job cause if it is then I think the majority of newcomers to your little camp will be turned away and left to die.

This is humanity for ya folks.



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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reply to post by LadySkadi
 


Always gonna be that way. Too many politics in groups, especially under tense circumstances and limited resources. Lots of emotions, lots of competing interests, etc., etc.

That's why you ladies will be far better off with me.


ETA:
And for all you folks enjoying this very entertaining thread, flag it! I didn't flag it on first read, but as it grew and became more and more entertaining, I went back and gave credit where it was due. Give up some love to the OP.

edit on 8-10-2011 by getreadyalready because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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29 years in electrical construction, 10 years owning home renovations company. Will that get me in? If not the survival group I am with, will ask about what we need and try to barter a trade. I guess the fact we're human, we're your fellow man, and we are hungry and cold and tired don't cut it.

Sorry to sound so dramatic. But If you would not let me & mine in. It would not have a good out come. We would probally leave, watch you all for a day or two, get the logistics of what you have going on then just take it over by force. Simply put. If you ain't mobile, yoour asking for trouble.



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by curious7

This is humanity for ya folks.


That depends on your definition of humanity. The natural state for humans is living in tribes of probably no larger than 150 people and those tribes would be in constant competition (war) for resources with neighbouring tribes, I live on the outskirts of a small community which is very farming oriented, there's one or two in the village I wouldn't give the time of day to but, in a shtf scenario, I would work together with them for the survival of the community (tribe). Those people who have moved into the village from towns and cities and commute to their office and banking jobs who think they're so superior would suddenly find themselves doing the menial labour tasks that nobody with any useful skills wants to do or they wouldn't eat.

some questions to all you lone wolf types;

How well would you sleep with no one standing guard ?
How would you get food and water when you became sick or injured,
How would you keep off the wild animals or packs of starving dogs that can smell a festering wound from hundreds of yards away ?

I would, by far, prefer to throw in my lot with a "tribe" and if it's a choice of survival for my tribe or survival for your tribe then I'm coming at you with a weapon



ETA


Originally posted by getreadyalready


ETA:
And for all you folks enjoying this very entertaining thread, flag it! I didn't flag it on first read, but as it grew and became more and more entertaining, I went back and gave credit where it was due. Give up some love to the OP.

edit on 8-10-2011 by getreadyalready because: (no reason given)


You're right......... done
edit on 8/10/11 by yellowbeard because: adding grovelling quote and reply



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:11 PM
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Actually, if TSHF and I had my plan worked out properly, I would be cruising around in my survival truck looking for work.
Too bad I don't have a survival truck, or plans to buy one.



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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I'm a programmer now but I imagine there will be no computer systems or internet, so that skill will be useless.

1. Would I get in as a cook? I can cook anything, clean, and bake. I can spot edible weeds and edible mushrooms and can differentiate the poisonous from non-poisonous plants and mushrooms.

2. I know first aid and have assisted in natural disasters in underdeveloped countries. I also know a considerable amount about natural medicine, poultices, handmade ointments, etc.

3. I am also good with weapons and bring my own firearms and knives collection.

Am I in or not? Pleeaaassseeeeee? (I can beg)

edit on 10/8/2011 by curlygirl because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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Got it covered with a brand new Jeep, and an old Ford Pickup. Also plans to make my old Ford Pickup bulletproof! Got a great plan, and the supplies, just haven't done it yet. Also, my network of folks already have their survival trucks prepared as well.

There is no such thing as a "lone wolf" but we don't have to be in a community either. We can have a network of lone wolves all working in unison with pre-planning, hidden supplies, advance warning system, assigned roles, etc., etc.

Giving away too much of my plan now though.



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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If you don't let me in I will look elsewhere. If I come across a larger more violent group of people looking for water, I will point them this way. Unless you let me in. ??



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:36 PM
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[And for all you folks enjoying this very entertaining thread, flag it! I didn't flag it on first read, but as it grew and became more and more entertaining, I went back and gave credit where it was due. Give up some love to the OP.

edit on 8-10-2011 by getreadyalready because: (no reason given)


Hey, thanks GetReady! I am astonished to see how this thing mushroomed.
To all of you for such interesting responses.

Before I continue answering some of your posts, it's confession time. One of the thoughts bouncing through my brain when I originally thought of this scenario was that I, myself, probably wouldn't make it through the checkpoint!
That's right -- the skills to which I devote so much time in this modern, plugged-in world (computer techie stuff, perfecting my double Axel on the ice, etc.) wouldn't mean squat if TSHTF. I was counting on some really great cooking skills to get me in, but I see that we already have too many cooks.

So, I was prepared to wander hopelessly in the barren wilderness outside the compound scrounging for food, when I read a few pages into this thread and realized the thing that I care least about -- that I'm a blue-eyed, small-waisted blonde who can lift my ankle over my head -- would probably be my entre into the compound. Who knew? That's both funny and disturbing.
I'm consigned to be the compound slut.

After all this, you can bet that I'm going to spend some serious time and effort learning survival skills and studying botany!



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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I didn't see any hunter and fisherman, outdoorsman. I'll throw those into the community.
Many military people have learned those skills also. I'll bring my cigarette machine also with the tobacco and tubes.
Those little beauties can be enticing.



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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Counseling, cooking and wilderness first responder skills (certif. expired) aren't coming up in short supply. Looks like I'm still outside the wall, for now. There's bound to be something you need from the outside though, I guess I'll be the honorable thief. Trading partners?


reply to post by getreadyalready
 

Now, this is sounding more like my kind of plan. So, any room for a counselor turned thief (honorable one, very important) with good communication skills and a healthy dose of sneaky?


edit on 8-10-2011 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by NewAgeMan
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I don't care if I get in. Just having the opportunity to see your avatar was sufficient to make going to this thread worthwhile for me.


Thank you, Newageman, I adopted this avatar after reading a thread about strange avatars and realizing that mine was just too normal.



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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I am learning how to knit. I am not great at it, but I think I am getting better. If I had to, I could knit a sweater now. I am even learning color work so I can knit some designs. I know if I just had to do it, I could knit a sweater. I already made a baby sweater and it would work to keep a baby warm. It didn't look outstanding, but it would work.

Making clothing is going to be important for the future because you can't just go to Wal mart and get something to wear.

I also have seen many videos on how to spin wool into yarn, and I think I could get by with doing that, if I had access to wool.

If I had no wool at all, I could make clothing out of something called plastic yarn. It wouldn't be very comfortable, but it would keep someone from being nude. It is basically made out of plastic shopping bags.

I have been watching survival videos and I know how to make a solar still, I think. I never actually made one but I think I could.

I have been watching videos on how to make cob houses or wattle houses or teipes. I had a dream once where I was making a sod house and someone was showing me how to make the walls thicker at the corners to support the roof. In my dream I had help with the house, but I was actually enjoying learning how to make it.

I think I could work, although I am middle aged. I believe that I could contribute. I would try to very hard to make use of any materials that came my way, even bones. I wouldn't throw anything away if I could find a use for it.

I would be respectful to others and treat people kindly. I believe respect is earned and if you treat others well they should treat you well. I generally get along with most people I meet. I can take a bit of good natured ribbing and honest critisim but I don't like to be picked on. I wouldn't want to be what is called the "delta wolf" or the one that everyone in the community picks on for stress relief. I like to joke around though, so I could see myself being comical with people at times. I just want people to laugh with me and not at me.

I love children and I know children would be valuable to the community. I would do whatever it took to protect and teach any new members of the community. I wouldn't want to be forced to have any children though. If I feel in love with someone from the community, I would expect to be loyal to one man. I would expect that he would be loyal to me. Even though children are important, also family is important. So some people might wish to build numbers by being promiscuious with everyone. I would not want to join such a community, however.

If I found a check point like this, I would ask what is expected of me and I would ask what others expect of each other. If I found a den of theives, I would not want to join. If I found people who were just wanting to have sex with each other and lots of children, I would not want to join.

But if I found a community that respected each other, where there was a respect for marriage and family units, where people valued the elderly and even the sick or disabled, then I would want to join that group.

I wouldn't want to be kicked out if I reached a certain age or if I became too sick or unhealthy to do much viable work. I would not want to be forced to have children or forced to kill or abandon a child that was born with problems.

I would basically want a Christain group, or someone with views like mine.

Dens of theives would eventually turn on each other I think.

Those who are promiscuious would grow in numbers but have no real love for each other.

Those who discard the elderly or unhealthy may think this is for the best of the group. They may grow more resources and many young and healthy people would survive. But there would always be problems. It might seem to be ok to get rid of someone else's old lady or retarded child, but what if it turns out to be you one day? Or what if it is your child? What if you feel that some people are given special treatment? Such as a "chief" of a village that has an elderly mother that he keeps around while demanding that everyone else get rid of their old lady? Stuff like that can break up a group.

There would need to be clear rules on many things. When is ok for a person to start having sex? When is it child abuse? Who is allowed to have sex with who? Is it going to be ok for anyone to have sex with anyone or anything? When is it ok to spank a child and who is allowed to do this?

There would need to be a lot of rules about things. Is any one man going to be better than another? Is there going to be an inferior group? Will women be treated as equal or inferior?

I'd have a lot of questions myself before just joining any random group.



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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I'm a blue-eyed, small-waisted blonde who can lift my ankle over my head --


really great cooking skills


What?


You can move in now!! Why wait for SHTF? With those qualifications, I have an opening for you!

I have 2 extra bed/bathrooms, a pool, a few acres, a pond, an enclosed front porch, large back deck, Large Flat Screen TVs, only 10 mins from town, 3 large owls in the yard, fox, raccoons, black bear, occasional hog, a large shephard dog, and two African Sulcata tortoises.

Already got a wife and 2 boys though, but she's pretty cool, we can work something out. She hates to cook anyway.



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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Lets Have a Visual on this !


The Road - Official Trailer [HD]


Doomsday Trailer


Mad Max Road Warrior (Trailer) - Oil Compound


(Goodbye 21st century hello Early 19th century )
The Visual of what could of happened if we were bombarded with EMP with the kill switch missing
if they ever made such a device ! With the Population we have The 3 trailers Above would become a reality

From the Loss of Communication

Hell it just might Happen all from a Huge Solar Flare in Our Direction Destroying all Satellites as it been a huge Activity from the Sun Lately

Escape From LA 13*


Sorry ATS Mind Wandering ! it Happens LOL!

Personally I would have my Own Compound ! and Im Next to One Anyways ( Reality ) that has an Arsenal and Survivalist Supplies that will last for a LONG LONG Time ! and Basically can be Land Locked

when TSHTF



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by snowen20
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I was professionally trained as a security specialist for executives and "The ELITE". I also have extensive experience in handling logistics and operating complex movements and groups of people over long periods of time effectively. This would be good if you are planning any scouting parties patrols or the like.

I can assist or run your communities security, logistics and possibly assist in establishing trade routes with other communities.
If battle is on the agenda, I can also train in hand to hand tactics, weapons, intelligence collection, and advanced squad movements and guerrilla operations.


Right on, Snowen! Some serious skills, indeed, that would certainly assure your entry. Please take this next statement as the compliment it is intended. Your posts remind me of a very wary German Shepherd who wandered up to our home one day and skirted the edges of the yard when you could see that he really wanted to come in. Eventually, he did, and became one of the best friends we ever had.



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