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A Reminder Why Japan has it's own Forum on ATS...

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posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 01:05 PM
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This forum popped up not long after the March 11, 2011 earthquake and resulting tsunami and Fukushima nuclear plant disasters.

It's always been of interest to me why this country was chosen to have it's own forum of discussion. As if this particular countries' issues are more conspiratorial or deserving of attention than other countries.

Well, it may well be that it does in fact deserve it's own forum.

This story today:


FUKUSHIMA, Japan -- A worker hired to help bring the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant under control died suddenly, the third fatality reported among workers at the stricken plant since the March accident, The Wall Street Journal reported Friday.

Plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) said it believed the death Thursday, like the previous two, had nothing to do with exposure to radiation in the plant. It also said the death did not result from overwork, though the company did not disclose the cause.

TEPCO said a male worker in his 50s became ill during a meeting Wednesday morning, before his shift started. He was taken to a hospital immediately, and died the next morning.

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The two other deaths among Fukushima workers came in May, when a man died of a heart attack, and in August, when a man died of an acute form of leukemia after working for just seven days at the plant.

In both cases, TEPCO said the death was unrelated to the man's work at the plant.


Fukushima Nuclear Plant Worker Dies

Sound like a cover-up? Sure does to me. And there will, no doubt be more to come.

Other recent stories:

Okutama Cesium Level Seen Spiking:


According to the ministry's latest monitoring results released Thursday, mountain areas in the town of Okutama in northwest Tokyo had the most contamination in the two prefectures with a reading of 100,000 to 300,000 becquerels of radioactive cesium per square meter.


Cesium Surges in Ash Halt Kashiwa Incinerator


An incinerator in Kashiwa, Chiba Prefecture, has been shut down following the discovery of high levels of radioactive cesium in incinerated ash, a city official said Thursday in the first such case since the March nuclear meltdowns in Fukushima Prefecture.


Wouldn't it be better to NOT burn the contaminate waste? Just bury it so the contaminated ash can't float around and get into people's lungs? I don't know....

Tokyo Guarantees Debris Plan is Safe

These 'guarantees' are already worrying to local residents (stated in article). People are already dying due to exposure and this will continue to escalate.

I feel so sorry for the residents of Japan. And what can they do? Not everyone can just up and leave. And there is only so much space on that island to dispose of thousands of tons of radioactive debris.

These stories above are a small example of why Japan really does deserve it's own Forum.

There is a lot of information to try and dissect here. Tepco (the local power provider) is not being open with what they know.




posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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Heart attacks and leukemia are both on the list of symptoms for high amounts of radioactive materials exposure.

It is important to remember that there are two types of effects biologically from radiation exposure:

1) There are effects that always happen in every subject exposed to a certain level.

2) There are effects that only occur randomly within a statistical manner.

Also, there is no current scientific method I know of that can factually determine 100% what caused the cancer other than through correlation of probable sources. It's a guessing game.

I would highly advise to apply common sense here. The most probable explanation is that these workers died from radiation exposures through work at the location.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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That's the problem, there is no 100% way to determine the cause of the death...so TEPCO can always say that they don't believe the deaths were due to radiation.

When these deaths, yes when, begin to escalate, they will have an increasingly difficult time answering to the public.

It's so sad.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 04:09 PM
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Many russians scientists that worked at chernobyl in the aftermath of that disaster died from heart attacks. The lead scientist said its was from radiation and the stress involved in working in such conditions. I will never believe any government when it comes to nuclear accidents.



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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Another thing to consider is that many of the sub-contract workers (with companies named things like "Happy Jobs") are taken from low socioeconomic areas and have little to no contact with anyone else, i.e. friends or relatives. This, being the case, makes it easy to hide the true number of deaths like these. It's entirely likely that we are hearing of these reported deaths only because they do have friends and family who know where the workers are working.

These sub-contractors are hiring an endless number of workers and cycling them in. There are documented cases of supervisors changing sleep hours logged in order to not show any outliers in the data.

This is the worst industrial accident in human history and you would think that it is over and done with if all you looked at was the MSM in the west.



posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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I'm not defending the Jap-gov or TEPCO and I concur with the consensus that these deaths may well be intrinsically linked, however look at it this way.

Take some average joe smoking 20 Marlboro reds a day, who died of cancer. It's more than probable that the cigarettes were a monumental contributory factor, however as far as the death certificate is concerned, he didn't die because he smoked 14mg of tar a day, he died of cancer.

As far as society is concerned, we'd pontificate that choosing to smoke was his own choice and as a result, he contributed to his death as much as the cigarettes did.

The same logic can be applied to the Fuku-workers.

Although we can speculate on the contributory causes, TEPCO will accept as much responsability for deaths associated with their organisation as Marlboro Cigarette Company does.



posted on Oct, 27 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are

Originally posted by thorfourwinds
reply to post by this_is_who_we_are

What do you think the best way would be to inform more people of the Fukushima Dai-ichi warheads/MOX/weapons productions facility that remains, to this day, continually spewing life-altering radiation 24/7/365... [color=limegreen]with no end in sight?


The first thing that popped into my mind when I read this was:
"I don't know... I wish I had an answer."

The second thing that popped into my mind was:
"Occupy Wall Street".

I envisioned the protesters with Fukushima signs. How would one steer the protesters towards rallying behind this cause along with their primary concerns. This would require someone to disseminate the information contained in your exhaustive and informative threads within the OWS movement. In my world, I see signs and banners proclaiming the ongoing (and under/un-reported) disaster flying high at every protest. But that's just me.


Greetings:

Great idea!

"Out of the mouths of babes..." or something to that effect.

S & F!


We would be willing to bet that there are ATS members & lurkers who have those direct contacts into the movement in many cities worldwide.

The real question is:

What will it take to empower and motivate people to literally

SAVE THE WORLD ?

Please look at this, people!

Japanese Journalist: “It’s like killing our own children, I cannot allow it to happen” — [color=limegreen]Teachers forcing students to eat food that parents fear is contaminated with radiation (VIDEO)

It is now time to come out of the (comparatively safe) woodwork and nether reaches of the world and unite, in this, arguably, the single biggest threat to all life on the planet we have ever faced.

It is now time to make this issue the much-needed (and missing) focal point of that pent-up anger of the OWS movement.

It is now time to voice our dissatisfaction with the inept and still-without-a-viable-solution response to the largest industrial accident in the history of mankind.

This is not a drill.

The balloon has dropped, and those supposedly bestowed with the responsibility of keeping we, the people, safe from life-altering nuclear radiation from the multiple melt-throughs at the disasterous Fukushima Dai-ichi fiasco have obviously dropped the ball - or, more to the point - just don’t give a damn about life on this planet.

We, the people, must pick up the ball and run with it, or suffer watching our loved ones slowly wilting away from the degrading effects of radiation poisoning - much like the food in the fields and the trees in the forest - or die trying.

Remember first, we, the people, are individuals.

This is what the radiated rain did to our trees here in the North Georgia mountains. This rain has blanketed all of North America at times since 15 March 2011, fueled by the 24/7/365 release of the deadly radiation.



If the "gentle" rain burns holes in the leaves of the trees, what else is happening to the rest of the ecosystem?

High concentrations of radioactive cesium have been found in plankton

We look forward to the collective mind of these individuals to formulate a plan to address the many aspects of this plan, the sooner, the better.

We look forward to further communication with like-minded individuals as to the implementation of "the Plan."

BTW, we are not alone.


Sadly this site exists due to a nuclear cover up that has been ongoing since the nuclear crisis in Japan starting March 11th 2011.


(...)The way to beat the nuclear industry and their spin is to always stay united.

I know people will have some disagreements but ultimately [color=orane]if we want to save some lives its a team effort.

It might sound dramatic to talk about saving lives but make no mistake thats what all the people who make the Youtube videos, websites and selected journalists are trying to do.

[color=orane]One sick kid is one sick kid too many.
AustralianCannonball

Peace Love Light
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Liberty & Equality

or

Revolution




posted on Oct, 27 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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I do not know how to respond to this. So much is going on all over the world, and not enough of us to do what we should have done already. Maybe the OWS Movement will give birth to other Movements. Anyone who still believes should pray. For what, I don't know, just pray for the country of Japan. It's not just America that needs a Revolution, it's Earth that needs to be shaken and made aware of the goings on in the world.


 
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