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Reply to MasterGemini:
Originally posted by MaMaa
Reply to MasterGemini:
I take my hubby out to dinner quite often and pay! I paid even when I was dating him.
I know plenty of women who pay child support
Are you serious? I was taught vehicle maintenance I was even allowed to drive. I know more males who don't know how to change a tire or oil than I do women who don't know it.
I don't know anyone who can't figure out how to calculate a tip.
I always leave a tip, 20% unless the service was horrid and even with bad service I leave a 10% tip.
every single woman I know of can cook, although I know very few men who can
this is just basic manners and has little to do with gender. I teach my boys to open doors for anyone. Honestly I find myself as a woman holding open more doors for men than I have had men open them for me. But it is about politeness and I also find that when I do hold a door for a man, their demeanor changes as if suddenly they were reminded of their manners..
HA.. gold digging in today's economy? LMAO Seriously though, I don't think this is as common as you may believe it is
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY is the only thing that will solve these problems, not the blame game.
Originally posted by Viking9019
reply to post by Revolution9
I think you need to get in touch with reality! men are supposed to be men and back in the Victorian dys,things weren't as you have described.You are just going along with the anti masculine ways of today when in fact we should not be changing who men are by drugging them to be couch slobs because masculinity is what has brought about this great world despite a few hiccups in between the building process.
Originally posted by nenothtu
Originally posted by Revolution9
What on earth do you mean, "man up"? You mean like stay in that prison of perception and worn out concept of what the Victorians thought men were. Is the only way to "man up" to be a wife beater, heavy drinking, no eloquence, not in touch with one's soul kinda guy?
I dunno what he means, but I can give my own perspective.
I don't wanna cry.
I don't wanna be "sensitive".
I don't wanna "get in touch with my feminine side" - why, I'd have to slap myself! Hard!
I don't want to be married to a woman that thinks she's a man. If I wanted that, I'd just marry another guy and be done with the BS.
To be honest, it seems that's what a lot of women are looking for these day, so they need to just bypass me and keep looking.
That's prolly why I'm not married any more. Got no interest in manly women. If I wanted to be a girl, I'd have the operation.
If "sensitive guys" are what they're looking for, just move along - I ain't interested in those kinds of women, either., so the feeling is mutual. I got stuff to do, like grunting, scratching, hunting, and fishing. Ain't got time to be a girlie and help you pick out the proper shade of chartreuse for the curtains.
Who says a man is a "wife beater"? Where I come from, the girls beat guys like that up - often. Ain't no "man" about a guy that hits women. Takes a wussie to beat up on women, and luckily in my neck of the woods the girls ain't scared to beat right back, and put those wussies in their proper place. If you want to fight, go find another man to pick on, just like the big boys do.
Originally posted by MasterGemini
Originally posted by nh_ee
reply to post by Partygirl
As a civilization and as a society we have evolved far from the traditional old stereotypes.
This has to do with our advancements in our society due to technology for example.
We no longer need Women to wash our clothes in a nearby stream and dry them on a tree any longer.
We know longer need Men to fight off bears from the cave or carry logs home to build a cabin.
The world has changed.
But we both need one another so I don't feel that Men are in trouble. It's the balance and symetry of our existence called the yin & yang.
As with all things in nature, they work in cycles and men and women will evolve into new types of roles in society.
Perhaps the Women will become the breadwinners and the men will be the home maintenance men, cooks and house cleaners and society as a whole won't be so polarized towards the age old male and female stereotypes ?
I see it already happening in many households these days....
PEACE
Originally posted by MaMaa
Is it just me or does anyone else notice peoples need to blame an outside source for things not being what they think they ought to be? At any point is there ever personal responsibility for our actions and where we end up in life or do people really just sit around pointing fingers and blaming others at why their life isn't the best it could be?
Originally posted by nh_ee
reply to post by Partygirl
Perhaps the Women will become the breadwinners and the men will be the home maintenance men, cooks and house cleaners and society as a whole won't be so polarized towards the age old male and female stereotypes ?
I see it already happening in many households these days....
PEACE
Originally posted by Revolution9
Originally posted by MaMaa
Is it just me or does anyone else notice peoples need to blame an outside source for things not being what they think they ought to be? At any point is there ever personal responsibility for our actions and where we end up in life or do people really just sit around pointing fingers and blaming others at why their life isn't the best it could be?
It is called projection. All that one dislikes and fears is projected like a screen onto another individual or group who become the object of hate and fears. Then they are made a scapegoat. Happens all the time in this wonderful world of cruelty.
I don't actually blame anyone for anything. It is better that way. We are all victims of circumstance. Better to approach the whole thing with forgiveness, patience and tolerance.
Originally posted by MaMaa
Originally posted by MasterGemini
LOL Well I was replying within your post and figured my answers would just be bolded next to yours. LOL Then I realized it looked stupid.
I'll have to watch the video when I don't have kids around. LOL I have four boys ages 14 and under.. I'm trying to get a grasp of the 25 and under group so I can better raise my boys. I'd hate for them to turn out anything like what it seems men are becoming.. or rather not becoming? However as far as dating goes.. I think it's a good idea to date more than just one person. Really your trying to find a mate so it's smart to find out what is out there right? Men have done that for ages, just for different reasons. For males it would be dating a whole bunch because they are following their need to procreate. For women it is to find a suitable genetic partner that would make healthy children.. (very basic instinctual reasons here mind you)
Why would it be a good thing to settle down and get serious at such a young age anyways? You limit what your options are in life that way and I don't see how that is good for men or women.