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Originally posted by ignant
i thought from the title that this would be a model romance, happily ever after
instead, i'm reading that the OP met a girl/lady/woman online and the girl is taken (in or was in a relationship at time of meeting online) but the OP believes whole-heartedly that the girl was made for him(?) even though the girl already has an intimate relationship.
while i believe twin flames are sacred and in a sense, important as our relationship with the creator (of our Other Half), to me at this point in reading it seems more like the title should be Sometimes Twin Flames are OPP
Originally posted by RisenAngel77
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
Sigh, its a complicated situation. That may have to do with ego and "Denial". Remember this is a girl ive been searching for since I was 17. There was frustrations along my road. I dont want to get in too much detail because then that would cause me to reveal things I want to still be kept between me and her.
I wish you would take my word for it.
In this thread i only revealed a small portion of whats going on. And the point of this thread was not to debate on whether or not she is who she is. It was to share an experience and listen to others.
My apologies.
Originally posted by mossme89
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
Can you analyze mine numerologically? I find numerology fascinating and your input would be much appreciated!
Mine is 33
Hers is 40edit on 9-10-2011 by mossme89 because: (no reason given)
My Other
I want you to teach me all that you know
Please take it easy, please go slow
I have been in this state for far too long
And have almost forgot how to sing our song
I have longed for you my entire life
And swam through a river full of pain and strife
I can hear and feel your resonating soul
Pulling me in so we complete our goal
I was a liar, a cheat, a despicable thief
A dysfunctional soul full of anger and grief
I'm so different now, I hope you can see
I will give you my all, just one chance to BE
So take my hand if you feel the same
And lets rise the vibrations out of this 3D game
- Me
Please come to me?
Fill me with Love, Oh please come to me
I await your return, to completely BE
Fill me with kindness, compassion and truth
Untangle these ropes and loosen the noose
Let me breath in, the Love and the light
Lets merge together and go for a flight
Lets roar and soar, through this dense - dark place
Towards the light that enters our space
On our travels lets ignite all the sparks
And leave on the cosmos, a distinctive mark
A mark so big, bright and bold
For all to see, that will never get old
So what do you say, Oh please come to me
Lets Love, live life and completely BE
- Me
Originally posted by RisenAngel77
reply to post by bestintentions
It seems like Twin flames also represents an extreme challenge to the ego. I wonder if this has anything to do with enlightenment. When you think about it further, the ego and super ego are challenged beyond anything due to the high level emotions. That would explain why I encountered mine now when there is heavy talk about ascension and 5D earth.edit on 8-10-2011 by RisenAngel77 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mossme89
This thread reminds me of my own encounter. I don't know whether she was a twin flame or not, only that I felt something, a bond, that I had never felt before. I'm pretty rational and logical and I kept trying to tell myself it was just a crush, I didn't actually like her, etc. But then I'd see her and all of that went out the window, I knew what I felt and what I felt was real...
Anyway, I met her through rather odd circumstances, at least for me. I saw her standing alone one day at school 2 years ago and decided to just go up and talk to her. I hardly ever did things like that, I was pretty shy, so this was odd. I started talking to her more and after that briefly talking when I saw her in the halls. Then, we started hanging out to do homework in the library. It was then that I started to really get weird feelings. I felt totally at peace around her and a feeling like "home", that's the best way I could describe it. I could tell she felt something too and that she enjoyed my company. Well, I came on too strong and messed things up. Long story, but basically I ended up offending her unintentionally and then it went downhill from there.
We avoided each other for months, and I fell into a deep depression. The best way to describe it is like falling from Cloud 9 to the darkest place practically overnight. Yet synchronicity followed. We'd go to the same place to avoid each other, or I'd run into her at stores 30 minutes after school. Then, she started thinking that I was stalking her. I apologized and avoided her until this March. I started talking to her again and things were going okay, but then I came on too strong again and scared her away. I ended up asking her out in a last ditch desperate move I probably shouldn't have, but at least now I know. I would have regretted it not knowing if she would have said yes or not. But, even then, when I was around her it was like nothing else mattered, it was just the two of us.
Still, just knowing her has probably been the most positive influence in my life ever. I've changed the most in the last 2 years than the 16 years before (I'm 18) and for the better. She inspired me to become a better person.
The defining characteristic between us is that we both have very strong reactions to each other, much more so than normal. After I messed things up, whenever I saw her, I felt a fear so intense that it was incapacitating for months, yet didn't have that with any other girls. She also seemed to react intensely to me. She was casual around many other people, even her boyfriends, but dead serious around me.
And another thing, when looking into her eyes, I felt like I was looking directly into her soul and I saw myself in her, if that makes any sense. It probably doesn't really...
Fast forward to now. I haven't seen or heard from her since June. I keep trying to forget her and move on, and come within days of doing so, but every single time, all the feelings come flooding back. Since then, girls have shown interest in me, but having felt what I felt, I know in my heart that the only cure is someone who I would like as much or more than her. Many days I wonder if I'm insane but as much as I try to push these memories and feelings out of my head and heart, I just can't. I can't rationalize with my feelings. I don't know, just wanted to share my story. If anyone has comments on it, feel free to share. I'm still trying to sort through this in my head and my heart. It's sort of a tug of war between my heart and head. My head tells me I'm nuts and I need to move on but my heart keeps pointing to her.
Originally posted by StratosFear
But heaven without her will never be heaven to me.edit on 7-10-2011 by StratosFear because: (no reason given)
So true, I feel the same exact way.edit on 8-10-2011 by mossme89 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by RisenAngel77
Originally posted by ignant
i thought from the title that this would be a model romance, happily ever after
instead, i'm reading that the OP met a girl/lady/woman online and the girl is taken (in or was in a relationship at time of meeting online) but the OP believes whole-heartedly that the girl was made for him(?) even though the girl already has an intimate relationship.
while i believe twin flames are sacred and in a sense, important as our relationship with the creator (of our Other Half), to me at this point in reading it seems more like the title should be Sometimes Twin Flames are OPP
I never said she was "Made for me". *sigh*
Please re read...
Originally posted by seagrass
It is an extreme challenge because the ego is a mighty foe. The ego is not to be conquered either, it is to be integrated into the total self. Which is the paradox. And why it is so difficult.
The twin flame path of enlightenment is not fun. I believe it takes two forms also. The good and easy one in which both are at a level of enlightenment where they can be of service to others.. and then there is the "other path" which is about duality and restrictions and blocks in order to create the motivation for further enlightenment and growth.
The blockage from expressing the love you intensely feel within is held just out of reach. Like a dangling carrot. Or to be more accurate.. an illusion in the looking glass. You can't touch it..but it will tell you things. It is the clearest mirror you give yourself to see the duality within yourself. Those aspects of self which are hidden from you. That is why you feel complete and alive when with them. But this isn't something you can get from outside yourself. Its the missing pieces within. The parts of self we do not see as our self.
They are meant to look at, and learn from. Not to form a traditional relationship with, no possession, no control, no marriage and roses. These are denied. That is for soulmates. This is about not having conditions and judgment. This is for waking up to the reality that after duality.... the only step from there that you can take is Oneness. Only in an understanding of Oneness could this relationship ever work. And that is a big task. When the two become one. It is in the process of coming out of duality into oneness where a new birth occurs. You have to die to be reborn. And the twin flame path kills you. The you that you knew. Some can't handle it.
Originally posted by Dharma Employee
did you get the classic hear tug feeling, where your heart feels like it is being pulled out of your chest ?
Originally posted by bestintentions
reply to post by RisenAngel77
the need to surrender to stillness.
for you, Angel, the challenge might be due to high level of emotions. same in my case. but there are more level headed personalities who process their world more in intellectual ways and experience the need to change the ego in that manner. others might just ‘see’ it or ‘know’ it. the 'way' differ but never the goal.
You ask for forgiveness for asking questions. The twin flame path is designed to make you ask the most important questions... but in time surrendering to the stillness is no longer asking questions and just being whole and complete in the NOW moment. The more you can find stillness the more at peace and centered you can be in SELF. When the distractions of duality are limited. When you connect to Oneness. It is difficult to do when looking in a "mirror" that is so fascinating. But eventually you will have your answers.
Originally posted by RisenAngel77
Originally posted by bestintentions
reply to post by RisenAngel77
the need to surrender to stillness.
for you, Angel, the challenge might be due to high level of emotions. same in my case. but there are more level headed personalities who process their world more in intellectual ways and experience the need to change the ego in that manner. others might just ‘see’ it or ‘know’ it. the 'way' differ but never the goal.
Thank you for your response. Forgive me for asking alot of questions. I really just want to get through this experience with as little pain and heartache as possible.
Can you elaborate more on "Surrendering to the stillness"?
It will be greatly appreciated.