In my opinion I think it is safe to say that most cryptids do not exist. I'll start with the favourites such as Bigfoot Sasquach, yeti. The reason I come to this conclusion is because I love watching wildlife documentaries and I know a lot of prep work and stakeouts go into gathering decent usable footage. Obviously experts are used who know how certain animals behave in their environment with regards to hunting/gathering food and where they are likely to rest and sleep.

Surely the majority of mammals sharing a habitat share similar survival techniques. So why hasn't anyone managed to gather usable wildlife documentary style footage of these creatures? My conclusion is because they don't exist.

Film makers manage to go into the most inhospitable jungles etc.. and film what they are looking for no matter how rare and elusive the animal maybe but yet we have seen nothing on the cryptids mentioned above.

Just to add I am not a skeptic or debunker and would love it if there was concrete evidence for these creatures but just a little underwhlemed that nothing concrete has surfaced over all these years and I do not believe these animals could be so much more intelligent than us and manage to hide from us for all this time.

Originally posted by g60kg
In my opinion I think it is safe to say that most cryptids do not exist. I'll start with the favourites such as Bigfoot Sasquach, yeti. The reason I come to this conclusion is because I love watching wildlife documentaries and I know a lot of prep work and stakeouts go into gathering decent usable footage. Obviously experts are used who know how certain animals behave in their environment with regards to hunting/gathering food and where they are likely to rest and sleep.

Surely the majority of mammals sharing a habitat share similar survival techniques. So why hasn't anyone managed to gather usable wildlife documentary style footage of these creatures? My conclusion is because they don't exist.

Film makers manage to go into the most inhospitable jungles etc.. and film what they are looking for no matter how rare and elusive the animal maybe but yet we have seen nothing on the cryptids mentioned above.

Just to add I am not a skeptic or debunker and would love it if there was concrete evidence for these creatures but just a little underwhlemed that nothing concrete has surfaced over all these years and I do not believe these animals could be so much more intelligent than us and manage to hide from us for all this time.

I watch a lot of fishing shows, but I'll be damned if I see them ever drag up things so alien of appearance from the deep deep ocean.

No there is no concrete evidence for the yowi. But I have seen some god damned mad looking humans that to the person looking hard, may appear like one.

Cant rule it out, doesnt mean it's true.

But in the days before cgi, boobtube, twatter and farcebook, there was only word of mouth. Back then, people didnt gain instant fame for being a massive clown on the interweb. They were either ignored or there were others to create a credible source.

those tales don't wear thin to me, because of the current trend of 'polishedknobs' and the like.

I wait yet, before denouncing the entire thing.

Originally posted by g60kg

Surely the majority of mammals sharing a habitat share similar survival techniques. So why hasn't anyone managed to gather usable wildlife documentary style footage of these creatures? My conclusion is because they don't exist.

Film makers manage to go into the most inhospitable jungles etc.. and film what they are looking for no matter how rare and elusive the animal maybe but yet we have seen nothing on the cryptids mentioned above.

I too think about the same questions. My thoughts are that some of the more intelligent cryptids do not act like all the other known mammals save humans. If someone is experienced in tracking and hunting game like deer, elk, hog, rhino, elephant, etc, does that mean they would easily be able to hunt a human?

There is a missing link in intelligence between the common mammal and humans, and i believe these cryptids are it. They are animal enough to live in the wild and have all the traits normally associated with an animal, but they have enough intelligence to stay out of the standard animal survival routines. They are outside of anything most humans ever have, or ever will know. Their survival depends on this.

Honestly your conclusion is probably the correct one, but i like to keep the door open because of the new discoveries that are made every day. To say something does not exist is arrogant. I would rather stick with the notion that, with our current understanding the evidence does not support their existence.

DC

Bigfoot does exist. I have seen it. Do you have any idea of the vast amount of animals cryptozoologists have discovered in just the past year? On average, there are almost 20,000 new varieties of plants and animals discovered per year. If you look back through history, some of the more common place animals, especially certain types of primates, were not discovered until fairly recently.

No one is out looking for Sasquatch in the correct way. It is hard to wrap your head around how large of an area of unexplored forests exist in the United States...Being a primate, Sasquatch isn't stupid, and the majority of the population will live where there is the least chance of human contact.

There is a fairly large amount of evidence for the existence of Sasquatch, and since over 99% of scientists do not believe it exists, why would they be out looking for it? The majority of sightings occur at random, usually by people that frequent the wilderness, ie hunters and fishermen.

Some people, mainly Native Americans, grow up in the forests, and many of them say only a handful of their tribe has actually seen one of the creatures. Just think of the odds...They spend their entire lives in the wilderness, where they are actually out hunting for their survival, and even they don't often encounter Sasquatch.

That just goes to show that anyone out looking for it for just a couple of days isn't going to get anywhere. It would take days just to get into the heart of the forests, that is if it is done quietly, and then it would take at least a week of searching, probably more, to even have a useful percentage chance of an encounter.

If you attempt to hunt Bigfoot on an atv or in a vehicle, or even use that to get yourself into the woods, you will scare off just about all large wildlife within at least a 3 mile radius. I wouldn't doubt the animal can sense or smell a human from a distance, and they have zero need to come out from the depths of the forests...

People think that humans have explored every nook and cranny of the world, but that is a huge assumption that just isn't true.

Gorillas were one of the known animals I was thinking of when writing the thread. Yes they are hard to find but people manage it and we have lots of footage of them. I think mountain gorillas were discovered around the turn of the 20th century but other gorillas have been know for thousands of years.

In defence of sasquatch, I do think they exist, there is just to much land that hasn't been searched and if they are very intelligent which they would have to be they could stay hidden indefinitely. I always jump to wolverines when debating people about sasquatch. Wolverines are rarely seen and aren't accurately counted by wildlife services because of that. They have to use trail cams and reports to make a guess on population. Now sure there's documentaries about them and a good amount a videos of them, the only reason they find them to do documentaries is usually because they have been tagged previously in most cases, but when you consider a mammal that could have evolved along with us who knows how smart and cautious they could be.
It is peculiar that all continents have some form of ape or primate but not North America. The foods plentiful here to sustain a large population and cover is vast for them to hide in. There's an interview with Jane Goodall on the topic of Bigfoot and she believes it's likely if not almost certain that there is some type of ape or primate in North America.
The fossil record shows there have been large bipedal primates in the past. The chemistry is right for something like a Sasquatch to exist in our world and not to mention when enough people yell smoke there's usually a fire. I can't believe that thousands of people could be lying, misidentifying, or be just plan crazy. I'm sure a lot of people do misidentify bears or other animals for them, and it's understandable, I've seen bears standing up in the woods behind some bushes or trees and the first thing that pops in my head is "BIGFOOT!", but then I wait and it's just a bear... and then I run. Now if I wasn't as knowledgeable as I am with the area I'm in I could have left before I saw it was a bear and think a saw a bigfoot and believed it.
Now with loch ness, the food supply to support it just isn't there. Chucapbra or whatever it's spelled..... well I've seen so many descriptions of it I don't know what I would even be looking for. I always see either a weird dog thing or some sort of red eyed demon monkey. I'm willing to accept that maybe something sort of like what people are seeing might be out there but I'm sure it doesn't have glowing red eyes and sucking souls and flying off. Could just be a large undiscovered bat or something and people get scared and in there head it turns into that.
You're probably right that most of the cryptids in the world don't exist but it's very possible that some do and that's what's awesome with our world. Hope this didn't come of snarky, I enjoyed this thread.

P.S. I believe the mountain gorilla wasn't actually officially discovered till the early 40's so it's been well less than a hundred years. Before they discovered it the locals would describe a large hairy manlike creature that lived in the woods.

In my opinion

That needs to be added to the thread title, I love experts.

Originally posted by moonrunner
In my opinion

That needs to be added to the thread title, I love experts.

it would be a real nuisance if every opinionated thread had the words 'in my opinion' in its title. I have clearly stated that its my opnion in my opening post so I dont think people will be confused about what I am saying and where my expertees lie.

The nuisance is the abundance of threads masquerading as fact which turn out to be nothing more than opinion and speculation.

Good thread....

How fabulous it would be for a major city's aquarium to have the Loch Ness monster! There's a little problem: AFAIK... it doesn't exist. It's kind of hard to capture a creature that is a fake. Sure, maybe in the 50s, 60s, the 70s... and even in the 80s... the Loch Ness was a big and formidable body of water. But in this day and age, I'm sure that scientists have the equipment to scope something of this size out - no problem.

This is the rub... the people at Loch Ness do Not Want to debunk this. Why? In my opinion, propagating and continuing to advertise the mystery is a good tourist trap. They are more interested in the cash, than the truth. Sorry if this sounds blunt... It's just my opinion.