I am completely fine with the VA being the largest training opportunity in the US for doctors, nurses and techs. However, when you don't kee the good doctors due to pay, and the bad one leech off the system because of the pay and retirement options, there's a problem.

The whole system needs a revamping. I'm leaving to a PTSD group here shortly, every week I go to one. I sit across the table from guys who were laughed at for Agent Orange for 40 years, and who stilll can't get help. Guys who have spent 10 years or more filing claims with the VA only to get laughed at, still unable to get a rating today.

I run into people who have no business being there, but still recieve full healthcare while others suffer.

It's not a perfect system, and that's been the defense for a long time, but that's the whole problem with the VA. It doesn't try to be anything other than what it is, it doesn't strive to be better. I recently argued over some pay I was due, but never recieved. I've lost a house already over my disability forcing me out of the military, making me unable to work and my lifeline (the VA and military retirement) failed to step in and help. I'm about to lose another house, very soon.

I called the bank looking for the payment, no luck. I called the VA, asking for some transaction number or ID, no luck. Finally a supervisor sent me to a 1800 Treasury number, which was a recording. I couldn't find that out till the next day because I got a call giving me that number late in the day, and they were closed. The recording told me to... get a tracking ID for the payment from the VA or banking institution before help can be given, thankyou for calling the US Treasury, goodbye!.

I could spend days talking about how the VA has failed, much like my liver is failing while they try to shove pills through it, and refuse to acknolwedge that my cirrosis is from them. I've never been a drinker, and never had issues drinking.

Eventually I'll die, and my wife will battle them for my insurance policy, maybe winning. My buddy died awhile back, and his wife got screwed out of $500,000. She isn't doing so great these days, but hey, neither am I.

It's bittersweet when buddies of mine finally get their claims through after 10, 20, 30+ years later and recieve $80,000 back pay finally getting all their debts payed off, plus interest, that the VA caused them to accrue.

I can't wait till I'm $50k+ in debt...

Short answer, I'm not going to work inside a broken system to get results. I am going to get results, but I'm not selfish and willing to stop when my needs are addressed. This will not go away, and it will not go on.

Thanks for the help, but many veterans are doing what you suggest and getting no results for many years. I will get results, sooner, and cause change toward streamlining during the prossess.

Heads will roll, I just need to get them all involved and exposed before I act.