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posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 12:24 PM
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www.youtube.com... my reply to Hard to Starboard




posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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reply to post by partycrasher
 


You have posted this link and no content from yourself at lest 3 times in different threads.

I'm asking you to stop now.

Thank you



15h.) Spamming: You will not Post identical content, or snippets of identical content, to multiple threads in the discussion forums. ~snip~
www.abovetopsecret.com...





Sauron
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edit on 17/12/2011 by Sauron because: add T&C link



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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that is fine, I got exactly the replies and actions I expected and I wanted both the masons and nons to see this.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by partycrasher
www.youtube.com... my reply to Hard to Starboard


That is a fantastic link! It's brand new and I doubt it's ever been seen on this site or any other EVER!
Or, you could use the search function and find the multitudes of threads with this very video and even read the replies from masons and non masons alike. But I know it's much to hard going through all that. better to believe that you are special.

Lucifer is a mistranslation in the KJV. If you ever want to learn more, just ask.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by KSigMason
Freemasonry is not subversive and the Charge given to us actually forbids such a thing, and we are told to be good lawful citizens.


YES!

And herein lies the problem.

Freemasonry binds you to the government.

You are given a binding obligation which binds you to each other, but most especially your Grand Lodges.

Your Grand Lodges are bound to the Government by charter.

Your Government is bound to the Church by the Banks.




If you rebel against the government, you are in violation of your obligation and suspended or expelled from the order.

So, in effect, the church, by way of the banks, by way of your government, by way of your grand lodge and lodge, decide who is fit to be welcome in the Brotherhood of Man.

All this while telling the initiate that the Holy Bible, open on the altar at the time of initiation, should be the rule and guide they follow. The very same Bible which says that God and not man is the final authority.

And that's the truth.

So, what does a freemason do when his own conscience finally tells him that his own government has become cruel, viscious, and oppressive?

Choices, ah those choices.

With Love,

Your Brother
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posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 04:44 PM
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Just don't kill the old man for his honesty. I applaud the luciferians who ADMIT what they adulate. i used to work closely with a 32nd degree who readily and proudly exclaimed that all he had and all he is came from Lucifer and I admired that bravery. Not only am I not a mason, I am not a christian either so satanists, luciferians, pagans, moslems, jews, asatru, yezidis etc should be free to openly express whatever they imagine to be the answer to the mysteries that entertain our small human minds.

My point is that management, whether macro or micro should be even more open about what they "follow" so the people who are being led by said management can better judge how well this leader will perform or......where this leaders loyalties truly lie?

I know without a shadow of a doubt that freakmasonry ( since it really is not about building with stone, bricks or cement ) leads to Lucifer and the masons who do not admit either do not know yet or.....they are cowardly liars whose word is spit.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Or, they are driven by the need to be good men who believe God is God and have no interest in Lucifer.
Believe whatever fantasy you like. The man you speak of is as much a fantasy as your ideas. If he is real, let me speak to him and I will sing your praises among these boards. Either put up, or shut up.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 05:27 PM
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The founders of this country were members of the same fraternity. If I feel the thing for me to do doesn't follow the guidelines set out, then I will do what I feel must be done, consequences be damned. As I feel most would do. I don't think it's God's will to have us all be submissive to a tyrant. And God's will is the end all to what this life is about. (IMHO)

Be well brother.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by network dude
The founders of this country were members of the same fraternity.


I know. The same fraternity which at the time was head quartered out of England and over saw by their King.

Coincidentally, Freemasonry saw a great rift in England during the years before it's reunification in 1813.

Some lodges wanted to operate independently. A power struggle ensued, and the United Grand Lodge of England was formed. Coincidentally, America and Britain had their final scuffle in the war of 1812.



Originally posted by network dude
If I feel the thing for me to do doesn't follow the guidelines set out, then I will do what I feel must be done, consequences be damned. As I feel most would do. I don't think it's God's will to have us all be submissive to a tyrant. And God's will is the end all to what this life is about. (IMHO)

Be well brother.


I know you will my friend. I know you will follow your conscience.

I was illustrating for those on the outside, exactly what trials a Freemason must face when tyranny comes to his shores.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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I would say that it doesn't bind you to the Government, but to the People, to the protection, and for the US, to the Constitution. Is a person a citizen under a tyranical government? IMO, no, he is a slave, a servant of the regime. A good citizen must protect liberty and freedom, not sitting idly by to let fascists usurp the power of the country from those who empower the government...the people.

Our Grand Lodges are not bound to the Government. We are private organization.


If you rebel against the government, you are in violation of your obligation and suspended or expelled from the order.

George Washington seems to have gotten away with it.

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Wait? Are you talking about IAMIAM's response to me? You realize I am 27 years old right?

I'm sure you have "a co-worker who was a 32nd degree". All anti-Masons usually "do".

Anyone who speaks in absolutes is a fool. You truly know nothing of Freemasonry. You're hatred and arrogance makes you a fool.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by KSigMason
Our Grand Lodges are not bound to the Government. We are private organization.





II. DECLARATION CONCERNING THE CIVIL MAGISTRATE, SUPREME AND SUBORDINATE: A Mason is a peaceable subject to the civil powers, wherever he resides or works, and is never to be concerned in plots and conspiracies against the peace and welfare of the Nation nor to behave himself undutifully.





8. To that end, it teaches and stands for the worship of God; for truth and justice; for fraternity and philanthropy; and for enlightenment and orderly liberty, civil, religious, and intellectual. It charges each of its members to be true and loyal to the government of the country to which he owes allegiance, and to be obedient to the laws of any state in which he may be.


Constitutions and Regulations, Grand Lodge of North Carolina




Originally posted by KSigMason
George Washington seems to have gotten away with it.


Maybe that is because he was not setting up the free country history likes you to think he was.

With Love,

Your Brother
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edit on 19/12/2011 by Sauron because: - internal quote tags to external quote tags.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 12:08 AM
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I don't see in the Grand Lodge of NC where it says to be useless drone. There is no peace under a tyranny.

Again, the true American citizen exercises many rights to include hindering the oppression of the people by a tyrannical government.

So you you want to revise the history of this country and the deeds of George Washington?



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by KSigMason
I don't see in the Grand Lodge of NC where it says to be useless drone. There is no peace under a tyranny.


One man's tyranny is another man's utopia.

Who decides?



Originally posted by KSigMason
So you you want to revise the history of this country and the deeds of George Washington?


No.

I am revising it's future with no regard for the deeds of the dead.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 01:09 AM
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I didn't realize oppression was utopia to anyone other than the monster reaping the benefit off of others backs.

Freedom, liberty, rights - this is my standard with government. People > Government. This is my standard.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by partycrasher
www.youtube.com... my reply to Hard to Starboard


That's your reply? Really? That guy is a pure wingnut. Your "reply" is tantamount to you saying Christianity is bad and using a video of someone saying they want to blow up an abortion clinic for Christ as evidence. It says something about you that you believe this guy to be representative of anything but a nutcase. From some of your other posts I guess I expected more from you.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 02:48 PM
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There's also no actual evidence that that guy was a Mason or a Shriner. Just some guy claiming to be. I highly doubt he is, and is more likely some random guy on the street paid by the filmmaker to say that.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by Masonic Light
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There's also no actual evidence that that guy was a Mason or a Shriner. Just some guy claiming to be. I highly doubt he is, and is more likely some random guy on the street paid by the filmmaker to say that.



The most telling thing about the video is that he claims to be a Christian but doesn't know basic scriptures than any Christian would either have memorized or be familiar with. That calls into question the entire video and a rational, intelligent person would recognize that fact. (Using this video reminds me of first year med students clamoring to come up with a diagnosis when they've clearly overlooked some basic fact.) Perhaps the man in the video is also a vampire, an alien, a secret government agent and a member of an up-and-coming boy band.

Weak sauce, I say.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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First off I do not "hate" but I do want to EXPOSE. 2nd the fellow had a mason/shriner id on his shirt with his name and he had a shriner hat. 3rd one if he so desires can express devotion to Jesus and Lucifer as another like myself once pointed out Jesus was not about The Law he was about circumventing the law just like Lucifer so perhaps JupiterZeus aka Jesus was Lucifer cast down and taking the initiative to be a sacrifice for his brethren sinners?

I could question everyone who posts on this board who claims to be a mason....PROVE IT?

I have used and built with water and trowel, cement, mortar, stone, block and brick.....how many so called masons continue to lie and say they are something they are not?

Perhaps this is where they best express their luciferianism with lies?

And if I am a tyrant because I want to drag liars who hide in the darkness out into the light of truth.....so mote it be.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 12:42 PM
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Yes, but your wanting to "expose" us shows a lot of hate from your end...and some obsession.


2nd the fellow had a mason/shriner id on his shirt with his name and he had a shriner hat.

You can order all of this online or sometimes find it in stores.


I could question everyone who posts on this board who claims to be a mason....PROVE IT?

Many of us Masons here know who is a Mason and who is not simply by use of words and PMs. Plus its not like this is the only online forum I'm on with this name. I also have my blog which shows my various travels and meetings.


I have used and built with water and trowel, cement, mortar, stone, block and brick.....how many so called masons continue to lie and say they are something they are not?

We are speculative Masons, not operative ones...unless if that Mason also does this for a living then he is both. I am also decent handyman and have built decks, brick walkways, gardens, landscaped, and so forth.

I call you a tyrant because in your "exposing" of us, you'd trample on our Constitutional and basic human rights. I call anyone who is a threat to humanity or the Constitution a tyrant.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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I think that exposing freemasons would be a good thing for them unless......you guys have been bad?

Perhaps it would be revealed that freemasons are tyrants? has anyone anywhere ever been pressured or duped into doing (joining) or saying something for a freemason(s) that they initially did not want to do?

Perhaps it would be revealed that a freemason(s) has done things that are unconstitutional?

I am not an agent of the vatican, this is not another spanish inquisition since I am not catholic but reading into the psychology of the posts of freemasons it seems you guys are afraid of something which leads me to believe there may be some criminal activity that the free masons cannot afford to have disclosed.

No one cares what gods or godnames you guys are into so feel free to talk openly.




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