info about lucifer and barley water (barley may contain ergot which contains lsd, barley water is a staple in other rituals) came to my ears by senior masons 32nd and 33rd degree. other info i have gleaned from family, i have no clue as to rank other than seeing a shriner fez inder a glass dust cover in a living room. and other info came from loud mouth co-workers, people at bars, clubs, and just watching masons and overhearing conversations. I should call myself "the cowan" huh? many masons posting on this site are either liars, know nothing or are the product of memory erasures. how do i know about this type of mind control??? from family masons and a another fellow who has been exposed to masonry but is on a different path. ah yes i know the techniques and will not be revealing much except to warn others about these dangerous cults because i see that once you join you will not be the same, something about you will change, you will not be happy being in another pecking order/chain of command, you will be unhappy knowing that i am not "in the club" but after awhile "they" may alter this unhappiness also. i actually pity the masons who do not seem to be getting anywhere in life, working at mc d's, bagboy at a grocery store wearing the g-ring, i do not think masonry has much to offer anymore and needs to post on this site to hopefully attract more members to help pay for the rising cost of floor tile. i will not be joining...why complicate my life more than it is already.